Engineers Only.. Refining the Drug War

Jhoffa_X

[Jhoffa_]

Can we or can we not roll up in a huge truck and use hydraulics to force a .5" steel blade 8' into the ground?

[Dakmar]

Like I said, just playing devils advocate; you win. :-)

[Jhoffa_]

Just walk up and knock, bro, just walk up and knock. It seems like you're more interested in confiscating the evidence.

Moron.. That's why we have these problems..

People keep flushing the "evidence"..

SO, we have SWAT Teams and Sledge Hammers now..

[Jhoffa_]

Mr "Pikes" or "Spikes" or whatever..

This thread is about LIMITING the Military Raid type "drug arrests" that we all see on the news..

It's about the difference between someone knocking on your door and bashing it in with a hammer...

Are you still there Mr. Whatever?

[clamper1797]

Thanks ...

[Dakmar]

Moron? That sounds like a personnal attack.

[Jhoffa_]

Moron? That sounds like a personnal attack.

I guess it depends on the wording..

[Dakmar]

If they flush the drugs, the drugs are gone, right? War on DRUGS? RIGHT? Like I said, it seems more like a War on People Who Use Drugs.

[RnMomof7]

Hey I haven't seen you around much has your horse been in for repair?... Are you an engineer?

Have a happy and blessed New Year!

[Jhoffa_]

If they flush the drugs, the drugs are gone, right?

Re-Read the thread.. Appreciate the many intelligent people who took the time to respond... THEN,BACK UP AND reconsider your reply..

[AKbear]

So, WILL THIS END THE BITCHING? Eh?

In a word.. NO, it wont.. It will quiet the Libs who want to be safe in their homes.. but it DEFINATELY WILL NOT quiet the drug abusing Libertarians..

Drug abusing Libertarians, eh? I am just about sick and tired of being accused of being a "druggie" or "drug abusing libertarian" or any other abusive name you drug warriors want to use in order to divert attention from the fact that nowhere in the Constitution of the United States of America does it give the government the power to prohibit any single thing. Nowhere! I am against drugs, I haven't done drugs since I was about 21 years old, except for nicotine, caffine, and beer and wine about 5 or 6 times a month at most.

So piss off, I am not a druggie.

Ya see? We know that once you allow the government to decide on what substances people put in their bodies, one day it will decide it has the power to force someone to take a substance it has deemed to help "society." (Ritalin anybody?) Once you have allowed government (which is nothing but force, plain and simple) to prohibit a thing, it will decide on its own that it has the power to prohibit other things. And, one day, you will wake up and find that something you cherish has been prohibited.

Just take a look at what has happened. During Prohibition I, the gangsters were blowing each other away (not innocent people except as collateral damage) with machine guns with such regularity that they decided to prohibit machine guns. Well, they at least had the honesty to admit they didn't have the power to do that, so they conceived a tax measure. A tax measure that added a $200 tax on a machine gun that could be bought out of a Sears catalog for about $30. Or a "silencer" that was really nothing more than a lawn mower muffler costing about a buck. And this was all done quite awhile after Prohibition I was over and gangsters hadn't blown up anyone since. They even were able to convince a supreme court that it was not a prohibitive measure, but a revenue measure.

Now we (peon civilians) can't even look at a new machine gun because in 1986 they stopped accepting applications to pay the tax and dropped any pretense of what their true purposes were. Then they went and told us that we didn't need any of those ugly weapsons, you know, the ones that look like military weapons but were functionally no different from any auto-loading hunting rifle.

If we don't stop the government from prohibiting things without the constitutional amendment to allow them the power to do so, you will find one day that even things such as FR or the Bible banned. Along with even your single shot .22.

On that day, I (or my children or their children) will point out to the drug warriors where they advocated prohibition and say, "See, I told ya so!"

[Dakmar]

Sorry, I'll try to stick to your ridiculous premise from now on. No, I don't think you can eliminate drug use by busting up peoples sewers, is that better?

[Jhoffa_]

Dopehead..

[Happygal]

~nudgin' me way in~
Any room for a gal around here?

I've consulted an engineering friend of mine with the initial query. His words:

``Is he talking about putting up steel fenceposts, or using a grader to plow "the crop" under. There's no way you'd get an 8' furrow with a standard truck."

So there :-P

[Jhoffa_]

The point being.. If you flush drugs NOW.. the answer is sledge hammers and a commando style raid..

If it could be trapped in the sewer.. there would be no need for accidental "drug related" shootings.. Like we all read about.. You know the "9 Year Old.. shot by DEA Agents 'Accidentally" type stuff?

Then again, you may approve of these shootings.. cause it gives you a reason to bitch..

[AKbear]

Once more and I will do something I have never done before and hit that abuse button. I did hit it, but backed off, now you back off.

[Dakmar]

God Bless You, AKbear, for a well reasoned and well written post, which will, nonetheless, fall upon deaf ears, I'm afraid.

[clamper1797]

Hurling is what I did after an especially jovial St. Patty's day ... when I was a bit younger.

[clamper1797]

Patty's = Paddy's

[AKbear]

Yeah, I know, but I gotta try.

[clamper1797]

Nay don't hit the abuse button ... jhoffa is NOT that bad