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1 posted on 01/03/2002 10:25:56 PM PST by Pokey78
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Shouldn't these people do time? Taxpayer fraud, or something?
2 posted on 01/03/2002 10:37:55 PM PST by brat
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To: Pokey78
Interesting- I wonder how much more of these types of shenanigans have been perpetrated by the commie leftist wacko environmentalists? I have a feeling that a lot of our evironmental policies are based on fraudulent data such as what is mentioned in the article- but I suppose we here at FR already knew that.
3 posted on 01/03/2002 10:41:25 PM PST by Major Matt Mason
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Standard procedure: only the whistle-blower will be punished.
4 posted on 01/03/2002 10:45:49 PM PST by meadsjn
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Uh-oh, the plot thickens!

Please bump this to the usual suspects. I don't know the list.

The report said one state scientist has acknowledged sending an additional three samples of bobcat hair taken from a pelt and labeled as lynx, but the laboratory reported that five samples were submitted.

Whoa there, maybe the WA state scientists really were trying (sloppily) to check for false positives! The WA state people were the ones who gave their samples non-existent location numbers.

5 posted on 01/03/2002 11:05:51 PM PST by jennyp
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Hey-there's-a-bump-list-for-this BUMP.
7 posted on 01/03/2002 11:12:21 PM PST by jennyp
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Does this surprise anyone? The lengths to which these people and their special interest groups will go to, are seemingly unlimited. You'd could almost see these groups gathering together to protect a species of fish that isn't even endangered, to the detriment of thousands of farming families.
10 posted on 01/03/2002 11:29:50 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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    "They don't care about the lynx but about how much land they can tie up," the staffer said.

 

And they are doing it on your dime. Your tax dollars. How come these bums are not fired at a time when many other Americans are out of a job? Let these jokers try their luck in the real world. Talk about living a charmed life!

13 posted on 01/04/2002 12:14:09 AM PST by dennisw
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These are government employees, they can't do anything wrong they can't be held accountable. Pathetic. Anyone know any good manatee recepies??? Maybe know how to attract spotted owls for dinner?
14 posted on 01/04/2002 12:42:54 AM PST by Joe Boucher
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That tears it. Next time they want to close off a forest because an endangered critter is present; they need to provide four pelts of said critter verified to have been shot in said forest.

Four should be enought to establish that there ARE said critters present. No more "hairs".

17 posted on 01/04/2002 2:33:19 AM PST by packrat01
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e-s, for your ping list.
18 posted on 01/04/2002 2:38:44 AM PST by packrat01
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"Had the whistleblower not tipped this off, we may never have known about it," said one source close to the investigation.

OK, I'll ask the obvious question...Considering this scheme and the global warming fiasco, How much more of what we think is "environmental science" is total bullsquat?

I'll also venture the first quess at slightly more than half.

20 posted on 01/04/2002 3:47:29 AM PST by copycat
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But lets not punish them, they were doing it for the children endangered species.
25 posted on 01/04/2002 4:05:31 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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All "science" connected with environmentalism is at least partially tainted. The left is always willing to lie to promote their cause. It is just their nature. They rationalize this behavior because they feel they are doing it for the right reason.
27 posted on 01/04/2002 4:07:54 AM PST by Always Right
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But....but...but...(sniffle...sniffle)...they only did it because they...(sniffle) care! After all,....(sniffle)...it's for the children!...(sniffle)
28 posted on 01/04/2002 4:18:29 AM PST by Redleg Duke
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Is this anymore disturbing than a left wing liberal making up numbers to justify government action.

Poverty, mediscare, the homeless, racism, overcrowded classrooms, health insurance, etc.

Which happens a lot more and cost more taxpayers money than this little scheme.

29 posted on 01/04/2002 4:21:13 AM PST by Osprey
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The scientists say they submitted the false samples to test laboratory accuracy

Isn't that what most people say when they do something stoopid and embarrasing? "Just testing"

Jerks ought to be jailed for life. If this aiin't fraud, someone's gonna have to point out to me what is.

Godspeed

30 posted on 01/04/2002 4:34:34 AM PST by America's Resolve
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After the story was reported Dec. 17 by The Washington Times, key congressional leaders called for two investigations by the inspector general, an audit by the General Accounting Office of the entire survey, and House and Senate hearings to be conducted after Congress returns later this month. Senators and representatives have called for the federal employees involved to be fired, and Washington state legislators are also pushing for an investigation. "Had the whistleblower not tipped this off, we may never have known about it," said one source close to the investigation.

Yes, but how many here will actually write/call their rep/senators to ask that they pursue this to the fullest?

31 posted on 01/04/2002 4:51:20 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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Absolutely incredible. Makes you wonder how long they've been falsifying data in order to justify land grabs.
33 posted on 01/04/2002 5:09:58 AM PST by DouglasKC
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"lynx habitat that would establish land-use restrictions"

P78, THAT is what ALL of the "environmentalism" is about. CONTROL of property rights by godgov and environmental "non-governmental" organizations in their "Public Private Partnerships! Peace and love, George.

37 posted on 01/04/2002 5:24:02 AM PST by George Frm Br00klyn Park
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The lefties have been BUSTED AGAIN. I love it. Now give us the land back, liberal theives!
I love it when the crimminals in this country are caught "red" handed!
42 posted on 01/04/2002 5:47:03 AM PST by concerned about politics
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