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Love is ... life without the pitter-patter of tiny feet (Angry Feminist alert!)
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| Rachel Roberts
Posted on 01/02/2002 6:49:27 AM PST by dead
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To: joathome
I know plenty of men who have no instincts or desire to have a child at all, including my brotherS in law. Kids just don't interest them. Do you feel the same way about them?I don't have a problem with any man or woman who doesn't want kids. Some people don't like kids around including some women and shouldn't have them. Why that brings out the reaction it has (among some here) is a mystery, but maybe you explained it. Just don't think ALL men have a problem with it. Only the ones with a problem with females.
To: dead
a rat is a dog is a pig is a feminist.
(..with profound apologies to rats, dogs and pigs.)
To: Maceman
"throw her arms around your neck and hug you for dear life"
I have one 2 year old daughter, and a son on the way in 2 weeks. I started somewhat late (mid thirties when the first child was born) and didn't think that I wanted children at all for many years...but I can now say that it is the smartest and most wonderful thing that I've ever done.
Unfortunately, her attitude is dominant among the bicoastal educated elite. They have adopted a culture of death and selfishness, and are trying to push that culture onto the rest of the country through their control of the media and educational system.
To: ArrogantBustard
Do you view children as nothing more than a burden, inconvenience, and drag on your free-wheeling lifestyle? A lot of people do. That's why they wait to have them if they have them at all. Some view them that way all their lives. Why should it concern you?
To: discostu
I agree with what you said and I am a mother who never regreted having a child, through the good times and the bad times.
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posted on
01/02/2002 8:32:08 AM PST
by
muggs
To: discostu
"I don't seek to kill kids and I don't have a problem with other people having them, just don't make me deal with them, or at least bring me booze to steady my nerves after you take the kid away."LOL...THAT is strong dislike, because in my experience, hate is composed of a passionate a wish to see ( your word here ) destroyed.
If it's any comfort, when my kids come to visit - only one is left at home now, and she's seventeen - and all three of them are together, I enjoy their visit emmensely, but I STILL feel the need for a strong drink in order to relax after the chaos dies down when they go home.
To: Maceman
I am 28, wife 29, and we have no two kids. 2 beautiful Boxers. Love them smushed up faces. Well, she keeps saying that we need to start having human children. I am unsure. I really dont like little kids that much. They annoy me and they get on my nerves. But my uncle, who was nearly 40 when he had his first kid says that children are the only way to justify your existence. While I don't want to believe him, he is probably right.
To: Maceman
My wish for the author of this piece is that she eventually has the opportunity to know first hand what it feels like to have your own child throw her arms around your neck and hug you for dear life Or to sit idly for years wishing she had and suffering the consequences of her actions and realizing how wrong she was for so long.
I predict she will be a 50 something women getting invetro.
To: Phantom Lord
Oh, please...OBL has dozens of kids. Does that justify his existence?? Jesus Christ never had any -- guess he wasn't worth much.
To: Phantom Lord
Oh, please...OBL has dozens of kids. Does that justify his existence?? Jesus Christ never had any -- guess he wasn't worth much.
To: joathome
I think there is a big difference between men and women who do not want to have children and this lady. She seems to be taking a stand against having children as a social/political statement. She has a holier than thou attitude about her "decision" and seems to be promoting the "women don't have to" mentatlity that is pushed by the feminist left as opposed to having genuinly come to the decision to not have children.
To: cake_crumb
I see more of a dividing line between rational and irrational hate. If the hatred remains rational you can reason between whether that thing should be destroyed or you should just stay clear. It's rational to wish liberalism destroyed so rational hatred can go as far as you say. It's clearly irrational to wish all children to die and nobody to ever have kids again, so one can hate them and not take it that far.
In full disclosure I have met a few kids that were so amazingly cool that if it were garaunteed that my kids would be like that I'd go home and start working on it right away. Though most of those kids don't like hanging out with their peers and prefer the company of adults, kind of like how I was as a kid, and there's a good chance they're gonna grow up and not have kids too.
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posted on
01/02/2002 8:51:09 AM PST
by
discostu
To: dead
Too Bad her mother didn't feel the same way.
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posted on
01/02/2002 8:53:46 AM PST
by
usslsm51
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To: joathome
What do you think? I think it still would have been posted, and I would find the sentiments expressed therein equally as repulsive.
To: dead
We don't want to be woken up at all hours to attend a screaming infant that knows only the need to suck. We don't want to sacrifice our time and energy chasing death-defying toddlers or taxiing around teenagers who have recently learnt to hate us.
Me, me, me...this "lady" is correct, she is making the right decision, because life is apparently only about her.
To: RightThinkinDood
So I'm not allowed to say that I think they're being stupid, self centred, immature, childish, and short sighted? How very libertarian of you.
AB
To: dead
Let's face it, there are some people who are lousy parents and should not have had children in the first place. We've all seen them, and thought to ourselves that they should not have had kids if they weren't ready to raise them.
This gender-loathing little feminist obviously falls into that category. I suppose we should all be glad of her decision.
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posted on
01/02/2002 9:04:13 AM PST
by
XJarhead
To: ArrogantBustard
Nobody said you're not allowed to say it. What's being said is that you should understand that it's people like you that started the hostility between those who don't want kids and those that do, so if you try to blame us you're wrong. Of course you're wrong anyway because there are perfectly understandable completely nonselfish reasons to not have kids (ie, not liking them and feeling it's wrong to raise kids in the hostile atmosphere that would develope if forced to live with something we don't like). You might not agree with those reasons, but we don't care. I say it all the time: none of us are trying to talk you into not having kids, why is it so important to you that we have kids?
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