Tradition 24 Hours a Day: Will Silicon Valley Liberals Force Out a Remarkable Priest?

Wall Street Journal ^ | 12/28/01 | Tom Bethell

[SMEDLEYBUTLER]

Monsignor Sweeny bump.

[God_isa_Jew]

"Will Silicon Valley Liberals Force Out a Remarkable Priest?"................Holy Smoke! Only some serious payola to the 'Holy See' can atone for such blasphemy!

[Rodney King]

bump

[weikel]

LOL.

[Cicero]

Thanks for the post. I'm sorry to say that the traditional way of the Church hierarchy with saints has too often been to persecute them while they are living and sanctify them after they are dead. Unless a bishop is a really good man, such as the present Bishop of Denver, he is likely to find that a genuine saint under his command makes him feel just a bit inadequate or even sinful, and many bishops don't like that.

Mother Teresa was universally admired while she was still alive, although she had a few politically-correct detractors; but Padre Pio was a much more typical instance of how the Church, or rather its failing members, are likely to treat saints. (No, Padre Pio hasn't yet been canonized, but I am willing to place a bet that he will be. Meantime, Catholics can have private opinions about him.)

Let's hope the bishop of Silicon Valley can be embarrassed into into keeping Monsignor Sweeny in his parish as long as he is physically and mentally fit and loved by his parishioners, which he obviously is at this time.

[Straight Vermonter]

I have to think that there might be a bit more to this story that is not in this article. Any insight by FReepers in the area would be appreciated.

[EggsAckley]

This reeks of church politics, and to me, any religion that messes in politics defeats its own purpose.

[Incorrigible]

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[mvpel]

My office used to be right across the street from this church, and will be again in about three months. As I understand it, the statue of Mary is made out of aluminum, not stainless steel, and was flown in by helicopter when it was first installed -- undoubtedly that was a very surprising sight for people stuck in traffic on Highway 101.

[Down South]

In some cases, I can see why certain denominations don't want an overseeing body that appoints ministers at churches.

Currently, I'm attending a Methodist church, although my actual beliefs are probably leaning toward an evangelical/Wesleyan approach.

I guess thats one of the things that you have to get used to in certain denominations. But seing a priest/pastor/rabbi removed from any house of worship against his will, and the will of those who attend that church just seems very unnatural to me. (Same goes with appointing religious leaders to such positions.)

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Monsignor Sweeny

Our Lady of Peace

[Marianne]

We have been advised by our contacts in Rome that the Canonization of Padre Pio will take place in Rome on May 26, 2002. LINK

[marshmallow]

Thanks for the link. I noticed on the OLP web page, a link (which turned out to be dead) saying the OLP web site can be reached from the Latin Mass web site.

Does Mgsr. Sweeney celebrate the Tridentine Rite?

If so, this could be the main source of his problems. The liberals still hate the old liturgy and I'm wondering if his bishop has given him the OK to do it?

[SMEDLEYBUTLER]

Sorry about that dead link. I didn't try it before posting and that isn't the Church's official web site. Hopefully this one will help you get the information you seek.

[Salvation]

Monsignor Sweeny bump.

And another one.

[marshmallow]

No, your first link was fine. The dead link was a link to The Latin Mass Page on the OLP web page. Not your fault. Sorry, for the confusion.

The fact that the OLP page contained a link to the Latin Mass page made me wonder if Mgsr. Sweeney celebrates the Tridentine Rite.

[marshmallow]

No, your first link was fine. The dead link was a link to The Latin Mass Page on the OLP web page. Not your fault. Sorry, for the confusion.

The fact that the OLP page contained a link to the Latin Mass page made me wonder if Mgsr. Sweeney celebrates the Tridentine Rite.

[PMCarey]

Thanks for the post. I'm sorry to say that the traditional way of the Church hierarchy with saints has too often been to persecute them while they are living and sanctify them after they are dead.

You know, that might not be too bad of a system. The Church is constantly on guard against charlatans and those who would create a "cult of personality". Just because an individual is popular and has a following, doesn't make them a saint. What is holy will endure and will be a light to future generations, and true prophets will often have to go without honor in their own time.

None of this should be construed as an attack on the priest, but just support for the Church's use of caution.