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To: Avoiding_Sulla
It is a straw dog, a stalking horse for people seeking to promote sexual licentiousness and/or abortion.

Please don't limit your agreement with me to this. That is but one element to a larger purpose, What of the larger issue, the paradigm shift aimed at redefining morality and of the meaning of justice?

The only ones who really had such an agenda were the communists. The socialists that run our universities probably picked up this attitude from them. More generally, Satan has this agenda, and communism is but one method he uses to achieve it.

Since then, food production has greatly increased, with the population and the doomsters have been discredited.

You are correct. In your own experience, what percentage of the time did a liberal quit arguing long after being discredited? :)

I don't know. I stop listening and arguing after I win the point. ;)

As liberal thinking predominates in social planning, and as social planners tend to be aloof and convinced of their own good intentions no matter how discredited their assumptions, are we not taking a big risk in placing too much faith that this one time logic alone will convince liberal adversaries? Self-satisfied adversaries in positions of power?

I have been making the case that we need to do more than that. We need our Judeo-Christian paradigm to be restored as our nation's social cornerstone more than most realize. We need to be arguing for its rightful placement before this threatening new paradigm (quality of life) supplants it completely. Comments?

We need more than mere Judeo-Christian ethics in our country. The right laws did not prevent ancient Israel from collapsing into immorality and going into slavery. We need people to actually be converted to Christianity and being guided by the Holy Spirit. Thus I am not sanguine concerning political action to reform this country. Rather, I think the only hope of this country is evangelism to Christianity. I do not consider this country a Christian nation, except in name only.

56 posted on 01/02/2002 9:33:19 PM PST by Forgiven_Sinner
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
The only ones who really had such an agenda were the communists. The socialists that run our universities probably picked up this attitude from them.
Communism? :) Surely you've been quicker to pick up on other things. How come not this too? The untouchable fools tenured at many universities are so far behind the times, many times even in technical knowhow, it's mostly their showy mutual backslapping that insulates each other from the failure of their unliberal liberal arts, biases and bigotry.

It is Statism that is the face of today's ever more bold threat. It practically struts out in the open because

  1. so many have little conception to how threatening it is; every detail of your means to a livelihood will be used to rule you
  2. its incremental advance is documented daily, a sort of conditioning, that allows it to blend in. The observations I've listed so far are disturbing enough to the Godly; imagine what it appears to those whom you've failed to reach yet.
  3. Few know what to do except give in because the system's demands appear only a little greater since only yesterday (or was it 20 years ago?).

Statism's ostensible purpose is to better the life of humanity. It suckers many intelligent people to do its bidding on that illusion. But the terms of who gets to thrive today (to exist tomorrow) are set by an ever more remote elite.

Like Bilbo Baggins, they vary from soft spoken and kindly to frightening direct when they glimpse their own power. But, unlike him, their facade is more like Sauron's -- ruthless and without remorse. Many here saw it in the Clintons, and it changed their lives and understanding of evil forever.

Oh, yes, Communism (and its cousin Nazism) had a purpose. It provided an ostensible excuse to install Statist type of control for social experimentation in the East, while it served a purpose in the West as a phantom/boogeyman for engaging simple minds, as most of us with any sense always knew. It was effective at one thing though: testing on both willing and umwilling subjects, on a large scale, what works and what doesn't.

The irrationality of what we're witnessing, what is passed-off as public policy today, is an outgrowth of that. Irrationality works when you care not to explain your actions, and your subjects have no real means to compel you to explain. "The poor fools haven't the sense to engage their own minds to a common purpose, so we'll do the engaging for them, feed them what we want them to 'know,' nothing more" is the mien of those in control. Such masterful power leads to hubris and excess as surely as any metaphorical ring.

More generally, Satan has this agenda, and communism is but one method he uses to achieve it.
Well I guess it's something that you allowed that communism "is but one method." Satan too has moved on. Gain an understanding of his new masquerade and you'll see that communism was red-herring child's play. It killed 10s of millions. The new boss is after much larger numbers while keeping his cadre safe -- for awhile.

Wouldn't you think that to intelligent men "playing with fire" would seem much more tenuous to the players when Satan is in the picture? That's why character is even more important than intelligence. But how many of us brag about how much integrity our kids have when others brag about their kids material achievements? Talk about not instilling Godly values! Well, don't fret over sending the wrong message, send the right one while you still have the chance!

Ah yes, The Great Deceiver has our supermen convinced they can pull off his plan and not burn themselves. Look at the fools who've put love of anything first except their fellow men and you can see they how self satisfied, careless, antimoral and antiGod they've become. Environmentalism is Its new plaything, a "moral" reason to kill. Casuistry run rampant.

Thus you better listen to the wardrums you hear beating today. Intolerance of anything or anyone God-centered is going to incrementalize like everything else, but for a more deadly purpose. Both Christians and Jews will be targetted. Why? Those who wish to diminish the earth's population 10-20 fold don't want to believe there is any Being above them to tell them what they do is wrong, nor their targets to find a source of strength. (They the Morlocks, we are the Eloi? -- nah they wouldn't think themselves Morlock). And God aids those they target by stiffening their resistance to the men-gods, these supermen C. S. Lewis forewarned, who do this reluctantly, for the good of man."

Yes, it's pretty much along the lines of Revelations by plan. Are these supermen trying to warn us, taunt us, or taunt their Maker? All three. The first in order tell themselves you deserved it because you were warned; the second to increase your dread; the last to increase their sense of self. What a piece of work is superman.

Still, the really sad thing is the number of people who you think are on your side but who are actually welcoming Armageddon. Why? Because it makes them feel their faith is vindicated. You sorry children. Why are you putting more stead in proofing your beliefs, sustaining your foolish pride, than having enough faith in Him to join the fight for the souls of your siblings? That's some faith you have.

Just how forgiven a sinner are you? Do you only need to call out His name? Aren't you obligated to follow His lead too? You too must struggle to reach your siblings so they may help you save the world in His name, and He them. You've gotta look around at what is surrounding you and take notice more thoroughly to that properly.

59 posted on 01/05/2002 1:23:20 AM PST by Avoiding_Sulla
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Satan has this agenda

What is Satan's agenda? Trying to stop people from understanding the Gospel so they can't be saved?

60 posted on 01/05/2002 1:25:33 AM PST by xm177e2
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