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To: Forgiven_Sinner
The only ones who really had such an agenda were the communists. The socialists that run our universities probably picked up this attitude from them.
Communism? :) Surely you've been quicker to pick up on other things. How come not this too? The untouchable fools tenured at many universities are so far behind the times, many times even in technical knowhow, it's mostly their showy mutual backslapping that insulates each other from the failure of their unliberal liberal arts, biases and bigotry.

It is Statism that is the face of today's ever more bold threat. It practically struts out in the open because

  1. so many have little conception to how threatening it is; every detail of your means to a livelihood will be used to rule you
  2. its incremental advance is documented daily, a sort of conditioning, that allows it to blend in. The observations I've listed so far are disturbing enough to the Godly; imagine what it appears to those whom you've failed to reach yet.
  3. Few know what to do except give in because the system's demands appear only a little greater since only yesterday (or was it 20 years ago?).

Statism's ostensible purpose is to better the life of humanity. It suckers many intelligent people to do its bidding on that illusion. But the terms of who gets to thrive today (to exist tomorrow) are set by an ever more remote elite.

Like Bilbo Baggins, they vary from soft spoken and kindly to frightening direct when they glimpse their own power. But, unlike him, their facade is more like Sauron's -- ruthless and without remorse. Many here saw it in the Clintons, and it changed their lives and understanding of evil forever.

Oh, yes, Communism (and its cousin Nazism) had a purpose. It provided an ostensible excuse to install Statist type of control for social experimentation in the East, while it served a purpose in the West as a phantom/boogeyman for engaging simple minds, as most of us with any sense always knew. It was effective at one thing though: testing on both willing and umwilling subjects, on a large scale, what works and what doesn't.

The irrationality of what we're witnessing, what is passed-off as public policy today, is an outgrowth of that. Irrationality works when you care not to explain your actions, and your subjects have no real means to compel you to explain. "The poor fools haven't the sense to engage their own minds to a common purpose, so we'll do the engaging for them, feed them what we want them to 'know,' nothing more" is the mien of those in control. Such masterful power leads to hubris and excess as surely as any metaphorical ring.

More generally, Satan has this agenda, and communism is but one method he uses to achieve it.
Well I guess it's something that you allowed that communism "is but one method." Satan too has moved on. Gain an understanding of his new masquerade and you'll see that communism was red-herring child's play. It killed 10s of millions. The new boss is after much larger numbers while keeping his cadre safe -- for awhile.

Wouldn't you think that to intelligent men "playing with fire" would seem much more tenuous to the players when Satan is in the picture? That's why character is even more important than intelligence. But how many of us brag about how much integrity our kids have when others brag about their kids material achievements? Talk about not instilling Godly values! Well, don't fret over sending the wrong message, send the right one while you still have the chance!

Ah yes, The Great Deceiver has our supermen convinced they can pull off his plan and not burn themselves. Look at the fools who've put love of anything first except their fellow men and you can see they how self satisfied, careless, antimoral and antiGod they've become. Environmentalism is Its new plaything, a "moral" reason to kill. Casuistry run rampant.

Thus you better listen to the wardrums you hear beating today. Intolerance of anything or anyone God-centered is going to incrementalize like everything else, but for a more deadly purpose. Both Christians and Jews will be targetted. Why? Those who wish to diminish the earth's population 10-20 fold don't want to believe there is any Being above them to tell them what they do is wrong, nor their targets to find a source of strength. (They the Morlocks, we are the Eloi? -- nah they wouldn't think themselves Morlock). And God aids those they target by stiffening their resistance to the men-gods, these supermen C. S. Lewis forewarned, who do this reluctantly, for the good of man."

Yes, it's pretty much along the lines of Revelations by plan. Are these supermen trying to warn us, taunt us, or taunt their Maker? All three. The first in order tell themselves you deserved it because you were warned; the second to increase your dread; the last to increase their sense of self. What a piece of work is superman.

Still, the really sad thing is the number of people who you think are on your side but who are actually welcoming Armageddon. Why? Because it makes them feel their faith is vindicated. You sorry children. Why are you putting more stead in proofing your beliefs, sustaining your foolish pride, than having enough faith in Him to join the fight for the souls of your siblings? That's some faith you have.

Just how forgiven a sinner are you? Do you only need to call out His name? Aren't you obligated to follow His lead too? You too must struggle to reach your siblings so they may help you save the world in His name, and He them. You've gotta look around at what is surrounding you and take notice more thoroughly to that properly.

59 posted on 01/05/2002 1:23:20 AM PST by Avoiding_Sulla
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
Hi A.S. I have some trouble understanding your recent post. You seem to attribute to "Statism" all of our current world's evils. I understand "statism" to be the idea that human government is the solution to human problem. I don't believe that is a solution, even if it were a "good" government. Nor do I believe the forces that tend toward statism are monolithic--there are democrats, republicans, communists, socialists, atheists, Christians, and other religions. They don't work together, but generally they ignore God as the solution to world problems, and hence they tend toward the same failures.

The general cause of world evil is Satan's influence and the proximate cause is humanity itself. The general solution is Jesus Christ. The proximate solution is Him working in His Church.

Just how forgiven a sinner are you? Do you only need to call out His name? Aren't you obligated to follow His lead too? You too must struggle to reach your siblings so they may help you save the world in His name, and He them. You've gotta look around at what is surrounding you and take notice more thoroughly to that properly.

Forgiveness is binary. Either I'm forgiven of God or not. The Bible teaches, Acts 2:38 "Repent and be baptized and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." I have repented of my sins and I have been baptized. Have you?

66 posted on 01/06/2002 4:24:52 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner
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