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Jim Jeffords, Not as Happy as He Thought
The New Republic ^ | December 29, 2001 | Michael Crowley

Posted on 12/29/2001 8:52:48 AM PST by holman

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To: holman
After reading this, I have a HUGE smile on my face. Couldn't happen to a nicer traitor! Payback, as they say, is a b***h!
21 posted on 12/29/2001 9:43:10 AM PST by teletech
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To: holman
Treachery leaves its own special kind of legacy. Jeffords will look back on his decision as a mistake.
22 posted on 12/29/2001 9:43:12 AM PST by Fulbright
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To: holman
Good riddance to Jeffords, who was never anything but a scumbag liberal anyway. He even voted against Bork and Thomas. He is exactly the type of spineless "moderate" that needs to be ejected from the party, and there are a few more out there. Primaries are critical.
23 posted on 12/29/2001 9:44:05 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: aristeides
I suspect the real reason was blackmail by the Clintons.

Tell me more, please.

24 posted on 12/29/2001 9:44:08 AM PST by RJCogburn
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To: holman
"some bozo from Vermont"

Well, that's a start on describing the jerk. Doesn't sound exactly like the glory he was hoping for though ...... HaHaHa!

25 posted on 12/29/2001 9:44:42 AM PST by kayak
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To: Lancey Howard
You will notice that Senator Spinless wasn't upset about what jeffords did to the party or the Conservative movement. (S)he was only upset because of herm own loss of power.
26 posted on 12/29/2001 9:45:05 AM PST by Salo
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To: holman
The lead Democratic negotiators, Representative George Miller and Senator Ted Kennedy, with Daschle's support, refused to make a Tora Bora-style stand with Jeffords.

Would this be a stand where you completely fold and don't inflict any real damage on your opponents?

27 posted on 12/29/2001 9:45:27 AM PST by nightowl_jg
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To: tbeatty
I hope Jeffords gets absolutely nothing. Less than nothing. I hope he looks back on his defection as the biggest mistake in his life.

Better yet, I hope the Vermont voters look back at Jeffords switch as the biggest mistake of THEIR lives.

28 posted on 12/29/2001 9:48:53 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: holman
This is toooo sweet .payback is a come'n
29 posted on 12/29/2001 9:49:27 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: aristeides
That he switched over special ed is, I believe, just a transparent excuse. Maybe it was just bribery with a committee chairmanship, but I suspect the real reason was blackmail by the Clintons.

I agree that the "special education" thing is merely a convenient, touchy-feely smokescreen. I think the real reason had more to do with the milk, but there could well be a connection. If I recall correctly, the school milk business was always one of the lynchpins of the New England mob. So certainly, the Clintons may be involved.

30 posted on 12/29/2001 9:54:19 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: holman
Frankly, at this point, I think the biggest threat Jeffords could make to Daschle is to switch from Idependent to Democrat.
31 posted on 12/29/2001 9:55:02 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: MeeknMing
Jeffords looks like an old woman to me!
32 posted on 12/29/2001 9:55:27 AM PST by BrucefromMtVernon
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To: Tacis
Ah, life is good. Everything in the article was predicted by Rush when Jeffords bailed. Jeffords will become an even more irrelevant icon next session.
33 posted on 12/29/2001 9:55:50 AM PST by bird humming
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To: aristeides
"but I suspect the real reason was blackmail by the Clintons.

Where do you get that from???

Is that an excuse for the a$$hole?

34 posted on 12/29/2001 9:58:15 AM PST by No!
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Idependent = Independent (Doh!)
35 posted on 12/29/2001 9:59:48 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Boxsford
It's not a new idea and not allowed at the federal level. A few states have it, most notably California. It mixes democracy with representative republic and the only reason why I am for it is because our vaunted statemen have successfully breached a "failsafe" mechanism put in place by the guys who wrote the Constitution. And it will eventually be the death of our Republic if we don't "fix" it back like it was supposed to be. It works like this so please bear with me:

Professor Alexander Fraser Tyler, a Scottish historian who in 1787, writing about the decline and fall of the Athenian Republic over two thousand year before, said: "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship." "The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith
From spiritual faith to great courage
From courage to liberty
From liberty to abundance
From abundance to complacency
From complacency to apathy
From apathy to dependence
From dependence back again into bondage."

He was, at the time, writing of the fall of the Athenian Republic. When a society bases its political power on a majority vote, it is inevitable that those wishing to have power will seek to satisfy the needs of those who will provide it (vote) by transferring wealth. This leads to ever increasing public spending fueled by the self-interest of producers. With each increment in the common realm, more people are brought into the class of those receiving benefits . . . these people will take their benefits into account, desire to maintain or increase their level of benefits, vote for those who will support them, and thus, the level of spending will ever increase. The needs of the voters will eventually exceed the treasury’s ability, so fiscally unsound policies will be undertaken.

Our Framers must have been aware of Tyler's theory, because they limited the Federal government to a very narrow focus with only a few listed responsibilities. Everything else went to the states. This act negated centralized power.

And then came along the Interstate Commerce Act. The size and controls of our government exploded. LBJ's Great Society swept like a divine wind across our land. A whole slew of lofty ideas . . . untested and filled with unintended consequences.

We are now balkanized, hyphenated and separated into classes. So now we are coming up to election time once again, and the Liberal klaxon sounds. According to the Dallas Morning News, dire warnings have been popping up in the regional press all over the U.S. The basic thrust is that all of the metro areas have been undercounted hence they will not get their "fair share" of the 185 BILLION to be passed out EACH YEAR! The federal government uses census data to distribute this $185 billion each year to states for education, employment and health and human services. A guy taking a government handout should be ashamed, for IT IS a shameful act. Today it is an art form. And today, one spouse works to pay taxes on the other one's income. This affects kids. They are out of control, educationally illiterate and practically ignorant. This cannot last, for the bourgeois will break and our system will collapse. If there is a fatal defect in our form of government, its manifestation is in the two-fold growth of big government and the unproductive voter. All because we traded a little bit of our liberty for some added safety, and usurped the fundamental concept of a limited national government so clearly set out 224 years ago. British statesman Edmund Burke, over two centuries ago, warned of the dangers to any society that promotes the idea that some of its citizens are the natural prey of others. No society has ever thrived because it had a large and growing class of parasites living off those who produce. The growth of a large parasitic class (including bureaucracies) marked the decline and fall of the Roman and Spanish empires. Over the centuries, the Byzantine and Ottoman empires developed so suffocating and corrupting bureaucracies as to destroy incrementally their own empires. Spain used the incredible wealth of the new world to support growing numbers of Spaniards in idleness. Disappearance of empires due to catastrophes have been extremely rare in history. Rather, they slowly but steadily corrode and crumble from within. A growing amount of wealth is pumped by the State from the economy and transferred to a growing number of small but influential (interest) groups.

So, the only way to now put the genie back in the bottle is with direct action by the people. But before we try an armed overthrow (ha!), Initiative and Referendum will allow items such as the Interstate Commerce Act, a Flat (or Sales ) tax, capping the total tax take at 25% - all measures designed to take vast sections of the bureaucracy off line and out of spending production. The danger is that "feel good" socialist programs could also be introduced however, we are now on a decay cycle that will be the death of us, if history is any example.

36 posted on 12/29/2001 10:04:30 AM PST by holman
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To: holman
Gone is the power he once had to extort concessions from Republican leaders fearful of losing his vote; those leaders now despise and shun him. Worse, his Democratic friends "friends" may be starting to take him for granted have thrown Jeffords off to the wayside now that the Democrats have gotten what they wanted out of him.

Lessons learned: Nobody trusts or respects a turncoat. The Republicans despise him for leaving, and the independants & DemonRats don't trust Jeffords because he has demonstrated that he has no problem turning on his own people if he gets a better offer somewhere else. The DemonRats gave him his little chairmanship and do not feel obligated to give him anything else.

Knowing the DemonRats, a lot of promises probably evaporated after Jeffords actually switched parties. I'll bet they offered Jeffords the moon and the stars to switch and then gave him damn near nothing after he got there. He's probably feeling real bright now that his deal with the devil went bad.

37 posted on 12/29/2001 10:05:39 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: holman
$200 BILLION for special education? That does not sound right. $200 MILLION, maybe.
38 posted on 12/29/2001 10:05:44 AM PST by DennisR
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To: Salo
"You will notice that Senator Spinless wasn't upset about what jeffords did to the party or the Conservative movement. (S)he was only upset because of herm own loss of power."

Good catch! I noticed that right off. Trent led the Republican Senate to disaster (democratic control) but can only think about his own sorry a**! IBLOLIIWSP (I'd be laughing out loud if it wasn't so pathetic)

39 posted on 12/29/2001 10:07:35 AM PST by grumpster-dumpster
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To: JZoback
>>"the most depressed I have felt"

>Well, there's always Prozac.

And there's always Federal Hydra-Shock.

40 posted on 12/29/2001 10:07:35 AM PST by Erasmus
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