Posted on 12/27/2001 1:08:54 PM PST by hawaiian
I'll post more info as I get it...
There's a huge list now, I keep wondering is there any single action taken by the high level party apparti that won't be fully endorsed and cheered on? I haven't seen anything yet, no matter what they do, if the high level R cult wants it, the cult members lock step into agreement mostly. Mind boggling, falls into the blind obedience category, emphasis "blind". --insert excusatory voice "well, congress yada yada" Uh huh, sure, yep, no executive DICTATES out of this admin, follow the laws, yep, return to the constitution and government openess and honesty, yep-WRONG! They are using this "war" (that they let happen) as the full step forward into global governance of the two class society, it's not even being hidden anymore. Rah rah rah, shake the pom poms, it's just as weird as the dims blind cheerleading, and just as destructive in the long run. Just watch what they do, what happens, what has already happened over the years.
Ain't it the truth!?!
They already flat stated out loud that it was a perpetual war from here on out. perpetual means forever. This is a clue.
There is no 'return". Part of the scamwar is two class society fascism, masters and serfs, so guess which side or 'class" the cfr bush admin is on? THEY will decide for you, your input is not needed other than to bow head and shuffle on to your drudgery tasks, and don't you dare to say "no", either, anyone who says "no" is a "terrorist" by executive dictate now.
Those that worship any political idol will sooner or later find it has feet of clay .
Even some of the men that were political icons on this forum last year now express concern about what is happening.So the Bush groupies have dropped them from the A list.
Be a watchman on a wall..it is not popular..but "for just such a time..."
I am having a hard time understanding this too. At first I thought everyone is so happy to have Clinton out and a nice "conservative" in that they are just overcome.
It now looks to me like a group of political operatives now come here to give the party line propaganda . I sure hope I am wrong!
Every government need citizen watchdogs..
Wolf in sheeps clothing ya know? And the sheeple feed on the propaganda never looking up!
It isn't just the shortage of natural resources, since there's a lot of cutting back that could be done by consumers, but the transition would be horrendous. I'm concerned that we no longer make our own shoes, appliances, computer parts, etc. We don't have the ingenuity that my dad's generation (WWII) did about fixing cars and other machinery, building things, running small businesses.
And, we are in an economic system where the corporations are so profit and globally oriented that the skills necessary for survival aren't really happening. Really, what are urban-suburban people whose skills involve flipping hamburgers and putting price codes through readers going to do in a real calamity when the powers that be take off to their secluded hideaways?
But, nothing's gonna' happen folks, the chinese are our friends!
Did you ever wonder what would happen if the UN authorized a blockade against us? No shoes ,coats ,cars,computers,radios ,etc..and no parts to repair" them that is broke"..(including some of our defense equippment)
Nothing to see here folks just keep moving along! Remember daddy's "New World Order"?
I have been arguing for well over a year that our economic policies (particularly where the "saving graces of western materialism" are concerned) are part and parcel of the soulless western capitalists' merger with (if NOT acquisition of) communist and totalitarian leadership.
At its heart, the imposition of "top-down" economic constructs as means to re-form a state/society and vouchsafe individual liberty is not simply utopian but -- IMHO -- a calculated and deliberate deception.
I believe history bears me out.
I think the case can be made that -- as this so-called perestroika opened up the markets, privitized the corporations and allowed for individual initiative in the "former Soviets" -- the West experienced a decided shift toward the totalitarian as water found a level.
(I could start with the icemen CEO's and their five-year plans for liquidating the masses as they jettison America's manufacturing capability, destroy her steel mills and mow down what's left of the independent companies and suck them into the leviathan mega-corporations the likes of which the evidently fascist Clinton proposed turning into State Corporations by investing our so-called "surplus" for us ... but I won't.)
I guess the folks for whom I feel the most sorry are the starry-eyed libertarian sorts who've somehow confused capitalism with democracy or freedom and missed entirely the lessons of Lenin's NEP.
Where capitalism and capitalists have failed to heed the essential Christian caveats on capitalism, they end up far more closely aligned with fascism and socialism than they do Christianity.
Perhaps that's one reason George H. Bush (in a 1991 commencement address at Yale wherein he laid out "Clinton's" China policy) sounds so similar to Peter Singer and his discussions of how the New Left needs to acknowledge that the Right had certain things correct the whole time ... both excerpted here: A World Trade Center Discussion of Doing Business with China
I'm with you on the personal survivalist lifestyle. But, that can only increase the odds of survival; it can't guarentee anything if the government can't be ahead of huge well orchestrated plots to take down buildings. But, don't you worry about all of those people who will go nuts if the government stops providing sustinence?
Bidness as usual, guy.
You might get a kick out of an old post I dug up in the response above ... wherein George H. Bush lays out "Clinton's" China policy.
Where all things Sino are concerned: "It's the Daddy Party, stupid."
Some more of my all-time favs that brought the Escher drawing into focus and made me understand why the Dems had to go to the length of paper bags at Buddhist Temples to draw our attention:
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