[zog]

---I think, and it is my opinion, that the best defense is a good offense, and to adopt a personal survivalist oriented lifestyle. Waiting around for government to change for the massive better is not going to cut the mustard in taking care of yourself or your family in any serious crisis. At best they would have dismal 'camps" with even more dismal "living conditions". Government's almost complete sole job and interests lie in pepetuating and expanding their command and control, and that's about it. I don't dig being commanded and controlled myself. Now most folks like that scene, or would have no alternative to it, especially if they wait.

[grania]

---I think, and it is my opinion, that the best defense is a good offense, and to adopt a personal survivalist oriented lifestyle. Waiting around for government to change for the massive better is not going to cut the mustard in taking care of yourself or your family in any serious crisis.

I'm with you on the personal survivalist lifestyle. But, that can only increase the odds of survival; it can't guarentee anything if the government can't be ahead of huge well orchestrated plots to take down buildings. But, don't you worry about all of those people who will go nuts if the government stops providing sustinence?