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BILL WOULD GIVE TAX BREAK FOR GUN SAFES
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Posted on 12/19/2001 4:45:03 PM PST by Eagle Eye

BILL WOULD GIVE TAX BREAK FOR GUN SAFES

Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle is expected to introduce legislation that includes a provision giving a $150 tax credit to individuals who purchase a gun safe.

It would also require licensed firearm dealers to inform customers of the tax incentive.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; taxreform
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This will play well to those who think that government should meddle in private affairs and use the tax code to mold behavior instead of raise money.

I say to hell with this.

But being libertarian, I'm curious to see what Conservatives think about tax credits for government-approved behaviors.

1 posted on 12/19/2001 4:45:04 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: Eagle Eye
Must be another Hitlary targeted tax cut, BS.
2 posted on 12/19/2001 4:50:52 PM PST by boomop1
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To: bang_list
Tax break for gun safes? But how are we going to pay for it?
3 posted on 12/19/2001 4:53:48 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: Eagle Eye
couldn't come at a better time, I'm looking at shelling out $1,500 in the next 6 months for a gun safe.
4 posted on 12/19/2001 4:54:00 PM PST by Tailback
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To: Eagle Eye
Ooohh.... Bad, bad, bad idea.
5 posted on 12/19/2001 4:54:24 PM PST by El Sordo
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To: Eagle Eye
Quit whining. All they want is the combination.
6 posted on 12/19/2001 4:56:04 PM PST by steenkeenbadges
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To: Eagle Eye
The only purpose this will serve is to give the IRS and, by extension, fascists like Daschle, Schumer, Kennedy, Feinswine, et al a list of gun owners.

Unless we could get a bunch of non-owners to buy $700 safes to get $150 back on their taxes. Hey, this sounds like a deal unarmed democrap voters might go for!

7 posted on 12/19/2001 4:56:21 PM PST by Morgan's Raider
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To: Eagle Eye
Just another way for the fed to trak who has what.

Do you really want them to know?

8 posted on 12/19/2001 4:57:02 PM PST by Ragin1
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To: steenkeenbadges
All they want is the combination.

How's this: 7x45x230?

9 posted on 12/19/2001 4:57:22 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: Morgan's Raider
Duh, what we lose on mark up we make in volume...? Doh!
10 posted on 12/19/2001 4:58:34 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: Eagle Eye; Travis McGee; Dog Gone; Lazamataz

What better way to be permanently registered in a government database for firearms owners than to voluntarily tell the government that you want your $150 tax credit for your gun safe?!

You won't hear Ms. Brady complaining about this "pro-gun" tax break! Heck, I bet Handgun Control wrote the tax code for this proposal...

11 posted on 12/19/2001 4:58:39 PM PST by Southack
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To: Eagle Eye
The Dems tried such a tactic in Calif, only to have it exposed as a kind of erzatz registration. The "Tax Credit", was the bait. This is the kind of cynical tactic the left approves of in getting its way.

If the same type of law, i.e., a "Stash Safe Credit", to keep your "Medicinal Marijauna" safe from the children were proposed, the ACLU would claim it violated the 5th. amendments self incrimination provision.

12 posted on 12/19/2001 5:00:12 PM PST by elbucko
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To: Southack
Ya just make this stuff up! This is insulting our intelligence!
13 posted on 12/19/2001 5:00:40 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: Eagle Eye
So do we have to REGISTER with the gov't to pick up our $150 check? (of course we do. duh.)

Then they've got the tax returns with an indication of who owns guns, those people will be audited at a MUCH higher rate.

14 posted on 12/19/2001 5:01:40 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: Southack
You won't hear Ms. Brady complaining about this "pro-gun" tax break!

She might complain, she has no principles and she likes to whine.

15 posted on 12/19/2001 5:02:23 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: xm177e2
They wouldn't do that, would they?

They're from the government, they're here to help.

16 posted on 12/19/2001 5:03:13 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: Eagle Eye
Actually, I proposed a tax credit, or even a direct subsidy, to gunowners for this very purpose about 4 years ago right here in Free Republic.

Initially I had wanted to restrict it to low-income people who might well want a locking gun safe to protect their children or casual passersby (or just to keep the gun safe from theft), but who didn't have enough money for it. We all know trigger locks aren't very good. We also know they don't help keep guns from getting stolen!

My proposal also extended to installing a locking gun safe inside your automobile for safe carriage of your pistol as you traveled to and from work or shopping, or even church. The automobile safety laws would be revised to require manufacturers to provide a safe in future model years.

People laughed!

Still, I had 7 points to this plan. One of my other points was to establish a federal requirement that all schools - public or private - require their students to attend a qualifying firearms and explosives safety course before graduation. This would range from proper conduct in the vicinity of a machine-gun right on up to what to do when your propane tank leaks. After all these things surround us and it is ridiculous that so few folks have been taught about what to do and how to recognize the risks (to say nothing of how to fire machine-guns or set off firecrackers).

Now that America has been attacked by a barbaric enemy, it is possible to imagine such an enemy hunting down American refugees. It is time to prepare the people for such an eventuality, and even if they never use a weapon, they should know about small unit tactics, escape and evasion and a host of other combat related activities that might help them save their lives in the face of an even more aggressive attack.

Anyway, that was a militia positive Conservative's point of view - I suppose a Libertarian would think the people have a right to blow themselves up, by accident, or be hunted down and killed like animals by an enemy, and that the poor be required to stuff their rifles in the back of the sofa for safe keeping.

I think we can do better than that as a nation.

17 posted on 12/19/2001 5:07:22 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Eagle Eye
If it locks, and you put a gun in it, it's a gun safe. I can build a lockable box for a lot less that $150....
18 posted on 12/19/2001 5:07:32 PM PST by steve-b
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To: Morgan's Raider
I saw a nice one at Wal-Mart for less than $150. Wasn't made out of walnut or hickory, no glass - but it'd take someone a bit of time to get in.

BTW, there's a lot more stuff than guns that can be put in those safes.

19 posted on 12/19/2001 5:09:37 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Anyway, that was a militia positive Conservative's point of view - I suppose a Libertarian would think the people have a right to blow themselves up, by accident, or be hunted down and killed like animals by an enemy, and that the poor be required to stuff their rifles in the back of the sofa for safe keeping.

What a pile of crap!

You are saying, however, that it IS a Conservative point of view that it is perfectly acceptible for the government to use the tax code to shape behavior instead of merely raise funds. Thanks.

20 posted on 12/19/2001 5:09:41 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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