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BILL WOULD GIVE TAX BREAK FOR GUN SAFES
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Posted on 12/19/2001 4:45:03 PM PST by Eagle Eye

BILL WOULD GIVE TAX BREAK FOR GUN SAFES

Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle is expected to introduce legislation that includes a provision giving a $150 tax credit to individuals who purchase a gun safe.

It would also require licensed firearm dealers to inform customers of the tax incentive.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; taxreform
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To: muawiyah
Highschool is the proper place to teach these things

Even if I agreed, which I don't, the schools are barely capable of handling the job they have now. Increasing the work load in non-academic areas like this makes it unworkable without overhauling the system (not that I'm against that.)

61 posted on 12/19/2001 6:02:41 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: US_MilitaryRules
what if you allready own 1?

If I did (and I'm not saying I do) I guess I'd be SOL on the handouts. Either that, or I'd have to find a newer receipt.

62 posted on 12/19/2001 6:05:22 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: muawiyah
What are you talking about? Incredible! You think giving somebody back some of his own money (a tax credit) is immoral?

And you think taking someone's money and forcing him do something you have "approved" of in order to get it back is legitimate? Can you say "socialism" boys and girls? Sure you can!

Don't you belong on one of those Democrat websites?

63 posted on 12/19/2001 6:08:58 PM PST by Arleigh
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To: Eagle Eye
I'm not a libertarian, but like "Faith Based Initiative" and tax credits for electric cars, this gun safe idea is a bad one. We have too many laws as it is. This is a scheme to fool NRA guys into depending on government for freebees. It also smacks of corporate welfare.
64 posted on 12/19/2001 6:09:01 PM PST by CWRWinger
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To: muawiyah
Anyone can tell I suggested that NOT OWNING A GUN was rare in the old days

OK, I see that now that I read it again.

I still don't recall the US Gov. having weapons available for citizens unless you mean DCM. The colonists did have central armories of sorts. Witness Lexington...

65 posted on 12/19/2001 6:10:29 PM PST by MileHi
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To: muawiyah
I tell ya what, if Congress will pass the Militia Armament Act that would award $xxx for the purchase of a miltary-style rifle, a basic load of ammo, initial cleaning supplies, and a storage cabinet, even if it was a community storage facility (ie, armory) I'd go for it enthusiastically. Not for the freebies, mind you, but because of the major, significant attitude shift that that would indicate.
66 posted on 12/19/2001 6:11:58 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: CWRWinger; taxman
Good points. Can't/won't disagree.
67 posted on 12/19/2001 6:13:13 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: Eagle Eye
Our "brother in arms" seems to have left us. But you are still here and I am still here.

I like the odds...

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68 posted on 12/19/2001 6:27:45 PM PST by MileHi
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To: Southack
You got it right, this is boob bait for morons to volunteer the info that they have an "arsenal".
69 posted on 12/19/2001 8:09:08 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: MileHi,blam,pocat,squantos,harpseal,patrioticamerican,wardaddy,nunya bidness
One more thing: if federally subsidized gun safes become accepted, you can bet that a few years down the road, it will be illegal NOT to have your guns in a "federally approved" gun safe.

In fact, it will be a felony. And of course, the feds will need to be able to come in and inspect "their" gun safe.

Same deal with trigger lock laws: a few years after these laws pass, it will be illegal NOT to have a "federally approved" trigger lock on your guns.

Probably one which will take 5 minutes to get off, after you have gotten it out of your "federally approved and inspected" gun safe. This will make it safer for BATF agents who come to inspect your "arsenal" of two or more guns and ten or more rounds of ammo.

Of course, you can always ignore these new laws....and if you are caught with an unlocked gun, you will become an instant felon, spend 5 years in the pen under zero tolerance "Operation Exile" laws, and lose your gun rights forever.

"WE ARE GOING TO HAMMER GUNS ON THE ANVIL OF RELENTLESS LEGISLATIVE STRATEGY! WE ARE GOING TO BEAT GUNS INTO SUBMISSION!" --Then US Rep Chuck Schumer, NBC, 1993.

70 posted on 12/19/2001 8:23:30 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: US_MilitaryRules
US_MilitaryRules said: "what if you allready own 1?
(not saying I own 1 but what if?)"

Well... What if your state outlaws some of your guns a mere 24 months before you qualify for early retirement and you find that you have to store some of your guns out of state?

Having a second safe could save you several hundred dollars a year in storage charges. The savings could be used to buy even more guns.

(I'm not saying that I own any guns or live in a state that has outlawed any or am storing any out of state but what if?)

71 posted on 12/19/2001 8:38:05 PM PST by William Tell
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To: Eagle Eye
Let's give the democrats a hand for another idiot idea. Ooh! ooh! I want a tax break for not having any pornograhy in my home!!
72 posted on 12/19/2001 8:40:28 PM PST by 2nd_Ammendment_Defender
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To: Eagle Eye
Eagle Eye said: "...even if it was a community storage facility (ie, armory) I'd go for it enthusiastically."

Set a precedent that the community is served by locking up many of their individually owned guns in a central facility?

Please tell me you are kidding? The law requiring ALL guns to be deposited there would follow almost immediately.

73 posted on 12/19/2001 8:45:48 PM PST by William Tell
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To: Eagle Eye
Whoo Hoo! 150 bucks! This is great news!

I'm going to buy a shoe box and a roll of duct tape.

75 posted on 12/19/2001 8:49:33 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: Travis McGee
Ahhhh gheeeesh Travis I was just doing the math for my 34 gun safes < / lying through my teeth > already owned and now you bring up this subversive plot against arsenals thang .......Theeeeeeyyyyyyyy wooooooould'nt doooooooooo thaaaaaaaaat, would they ?:o)

Stay Safe

76 posted on 12/19/2001 8:50:50 PM PST by Squantos
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To: 2nd_Ammendment_Defender
" I want a tax break for not having any pornograhy in my home!!"

They would have to give me more than 150 dollars to make me do that. lol.

77 posted on 12/19/2001 8:53:08 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: Shooter 2.5 ; Travis McGee
Maybe "birdman" can post a design for a gun safe made of old potato sacks and the Red Green tool of professionals ......duct tape !!! And we can clear a kewl 145.99 $$ from the goobermint beancounters whom have seen fit to give me back MY money !?!?!??! How kind of the SOB's....

Stay Safe !

78 posted on 12/19/2001 8:55:44 PM PST by Squantos
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To: Squantos
It's just another way to get folks who should know better to volunteer intell to the JBTs for future reference.
79 posted on 12/19/2001 9:01:44 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: skinny old man
"Another back door method to establish a data base of gun owners. I say no deal..."

Not real bright, those Democrats, are they.

This is so rife with "backfire opportunity" that it's laughable.

Wanna know how to eviscerate it, bigtime?

Have the NRA, GOA, JFPO etc. start handing out "gun safes" for a ten dollar donation.

Hand them out to anyone.

The article says nothing about guns, after all -- only "safes".

Now ask yourself -- how many taxed-to-death non-gun-owners would line up to get a $150 tax break for a ten buck investment?

With everyone claiming the benefit (rightfully, no less!), how are they gonna use it to determine who owns guns?

Oops, there goes that "registration" thing!

80 posted on 12/19/2001 9:17:47 PM PST by Don Joe
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