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BILL WOULD GIVE TAX BREAK FOR GUN SAFES
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Posted on 12/19/2001 4:45:03 PM PST by Eagle Eye

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To: muawiyah
BTW, where'd you read the guv'mnt's not required to arm the militia?

I didn't say that. Why would you say that I did?

BTW, where'd you read that the government was required to arm the militia?

Some of us are not going to wait on the government to arm us or to refund us for arms storage.

41 posted on 12/19/2001 5:41:29 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: muawiyah
People laughed!

They still are.

42 posted on 12/19/2001 5:42:29 PM PST by MileHi
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To: Arleigh
What are you talking about? Incredible! You think giving somebody back some of his own money (a tax credit) is immoral?

I think taking money from people for no good purpose at all is much worse!

43 posted on 12/19/2001 5:44:12 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: MileHi
I've too many yeller forms to now, but to hell with volunteering that stuff on an IRS form!

Each year there will be more requirements until they are prescribing style and brand, and maybe even intended use...

44 posted on 12/19/2001 5:44:38 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: Eagle Eye
Are there any gun safes out there for less than $100?
45 posted on 12/19/2001 5:47:37 PM PST by The Old Hoosier
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To: Eagle Eye
I'm sure there are a number of gangs that will run out and take advantage of this.
46 posted on 12/19/2001 5:47:48 PM PST by WriteOn
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To: muawiyah
If they give a credit for safes, then they can give a credit for anything.

You like the idea because you it fits an interest. If you were a star-gazer, then you'd like a tax credit for a new telescope.

But the priciple question still remains: Should the tax code be used to shape social behavior or to raise money?

47 posted on 12/19/2001 5:48:11 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: MileHi
Go ahead, laugh. Bet you got a big chuckle out of my guns and explosives safety course requirement to get out of highschool didn't you?

Did you examine exactly why you are laughing? Could it be that you don't believe the Liberals think folks should know how to be safe?

(Actually, I think Liberals believe people should get hurt in stupid accidents for no other reason than such accidents serve as a justification for a bigger budget for the Consumer Product Safey Commission).

48 posted on 12/19/2001 5:49:07 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: The Old Hoosier
Are there any gun safes out there for less than $100?

That would depend on a technical classification of 'safe'.

No, actual safes are several hundred dollars, but you can find security cabinets and boxes for $30 on up.

49 posted on 12/19/2001 5:50:11 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: muawiyah
They did in the old days - actually had an arsenal and if you didn't have a gun (which was rare), you could go there and get one.

Really? Evidence, please. Especially about owning guns being "rare."

50 posted on 12/19/2001 5:51:26 PM PST by MileHi
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To: Eagle Eye
People get tax breaks all the time for buying telescopes and binoculars - provided their business buys them, it's a deductible expense. Now you try that outside of the framework of a business and you have a problem.

BTW, if you have a big problem with using the tax code to "mold behavior", take it up with your Congressman - not me. Whether I agreed with you or not, there's not a whole lot I could do about it, eh?!

At the moment I have this sucker Daschle on the line for a $150 tax credit to help the militia store their very own weapons safely.

It's the first decent thought he's had in about 20 years, so I don't want to scare him away.

51 posted on 12/19/2001 5:53:06 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Go ahead, laugh. Bet you got a big chuckle out of my guns and explosives safety course requirement to get out of highschool didn't you?

No need to make guns and expolsive required high school courses. None. High schools are NOT the places for paramilitary training.

However, the Scouts used to offer gun safety training, and most communities can still offer fire arms safety and other safety classed via the local fire department.

52 posted on 12/19/2001 5:53:49 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: MileHi
Milehi, please learn to read what I wrote - not what you think I wrote.

Anyone can tell I suggested that NOT OWNING A GUN was rare in the old days. People who argue that gunownership was rare "way back when" are, to say the least, full of it, right?!

53 posted on 12/19/2001 5:54:49 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
It's the first decent thought he's had in about 20 years, so I don't want to scare him away.

Hook, line, and sinker.

54 posted on 12/19/2001 5:55:00 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: Eagle Eye
The kids graduate at about the age of 18, and the State Constitution says they are now members of the militia.

Highschool is the proper place to teach these things. I know it's a little short of UMT, but that's the other option.

55 posted on 12/19/2001 5:56:39 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Eagle Eye
That's about as subtle as getting a list of owners of pickup trucks. The correlation to gun ownership is VERY high...
56 posted on 12/19/2001 5:58:10 PM PST by skraeling
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To: muawiyah
BTW, if you have a big problem with using the tax code to "mold behavior", take it up with your Congressman - not me. Whether I agreed with you or not, there's not a whole lot I could do about it, eh?!

Well, we either decide that it's ok and try to ride the gravy train or we decide that it is not ok and work to change the system.

Are tax codes supposed to be for raising money or for shaping behavior?

57 posted on 12/19/2001 6:00:04 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: muawiyah
of my guns and explosives safety course requirement to get out of highschool didn't you?

What the hell does that mean? I guess I missed the high school explosive elective.

No one is more RKBA than I, but you aren't making much sense.

58 posted on 12/19/2001 6:00:24 PM PST by MileHi
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To: Eagle Eye; Taxreform
The tax code should be used to raise money for the legitimate funcions of government.

No dice, Dasshole. If I have a gun safe, it is not any of your or the government's business!

“I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”
[Thomas Jefferson, letter to Benjamin Rush, 1800.]

Click here to help us scrap the Code, scrap the IRS and abolish the VLWC!

We will never be a truly FRee people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.

59 posted on 12/19/2001 6:00:55 PM PST by Taxman
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To: Eagle Eye
what if you allready own 1?

(not saying I own 1 but what if?)

60 posted on 12/19/2001 6:02:36 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules
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