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BILL WOULD GIVE TAX BREAK FOR GUN SAFES
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Posted on 12/19/2001 4:45:03 PM PST by Eagle Eye

BILL WOULD GIVE TAX BREAK FOR GUN SAFES

Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle is expected to introduce legislation that includes a provision giving a $150 tax credit to individuals who purchase a gun safe.

It would also require licensed firearm dealers to inform customers of the tax incentive.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; taxreform
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To: Eagle Eye
Pay for it out of the EPA funds.
21 posted on 12/19/2001 5:10:23 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Eagle Eye
Oh yea sure I want the Gov to know I have a gun safe in which I keep guess what. Guns! So when you want to round up all the guns you already have a good idea where to look.BAD IDEA
22 posted on 12/19/2001 5:10:55 PM PST by Newbomb Turk
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To: steenkeenbadges
"Stop or I'll sho....! Uhmmm,.... can you wait a minute? I need to get something outta my safe. Don't go away. I'll be right back."

He should offer another $150 for purchasing a separate ammo safe.

23 posted on 12/19/2001 5:12:55 PM PST by Benjamin Dover
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To: Eagle Eye
No, not "mold" - simply make it possible for folks to have a gun safe. A variety of mechanisms can be used to finance it - a tax break need not be granted. We could just send everybody a $150 check, or send all the money to Walmart and they'd just set them out front for you to pick up.

A Constitutionalist could go beyond this, of course, and demand that his or her state government supply him with a military grade weapon commensurate with his Constitutionally mandated membership in the militia.

BTW, don't put so many conditions on your question or statement and folks might well find it possible to address it. That's why I will simply ignore your attitude and continue pushing for the arming of the people so they may protect the republic against its enemies.

24 posted on 12/19/2001 5:15:05 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Eagle Eye
Now how am I going to hang a gun safe from my rear-view mirror? Besides, the trigger-lock got there first.
25 posted on 12/19/2001 5:17:31 PM PST by Waco
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To: Eagle Eye
Tom Daschel and a ten year old were sitting on a park bench. The young man had just finished eating 5 candy bars. Tom says, young man all of that candy is bad for you. The young man replied, my grandfather lived to be one hundred and five years old sir. Did he eat 5 candy bars at a time asked Tom. No sir. He got to be one hundred and five by MINDING HIS OWN FREAKIN BUSINESS!
26 posted on 12/19/2001 5:18:20 PM PST by Newbomb Turk
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To: steenkeenbadges
Quit whining. All they want is the combination.

They can have that, but the first thing I did when I got mine was change the combo.

What worries me more is that by taking the tax credit, you are telling the government that you have a gun safe. If you have a gun safe, its "safe" to bet that you also own a gun or two. Kind of a back door registration, but only for responsible gun owners.

27 posted on 12/19/2001 5:20:06 PM PST by meyer
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To: muawiyah
BTW, don't put so many conditions on your question or statement and folks might well find it possible to address it

Q: Should the tax code be used to mold/shape/reward/ certain social behaviors?

Q: Should the tax code be used strictly to raise money?

How is that?

If a 'poor' person can afford a $100 for a new .380, they can find another $30 for a metal pistol box.

Citizens have a right to keep and bear arms, but have no reasonable expectation that the government must supply or subsidize one for private use.

28 posted on 12/19/2001 5:20:40 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: Newbomb Turk
same for trigger lock wait till i find my key take what you want till i find it
29 posted on 12/19/2001 5:21:13 PM PST by jhny7
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To: Newbomb Turk
Tom Dasshole walked past a group of small boys and overheard them talking about a puppy. When he asked them what they were doing, one little boy said that they were telling lies and whoever told the biggest lie got to keep the puppy.

Astonished, Dasshole exclaimed," Why, when I was a boy, I NEVER told a lie."

The little boy replied, "Mister, the puppy's yours!!"

30 posted on 12/19/2001 5:24:22 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: Morgan's Raider
If there are to be no records kept, it has to be administered in some manner other than an entry on the tax return. I'd say the only workable method would be to implement a direct rebate via the dealer, who has to prove sales sufficient to cover the rebates if audited but does not have to reveal his customers.

It would also give the Democrats a face saving way to back down from cumbersome gun regulations.

31 posted on 12/19/2001 5:25:00 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: meyer
A couple of years ago the USPS Board of Governors decided that they could make post offices safer by setting a standard that all motor vehicles on postal premises were subject to inspection.

The idea was this would deter folks from bringing guns to work.

The whole thing backfired. Postal employees abandoned postal parking lots in droves. They were parking on public streets everywhere.

Why? Was it because all those postal workers were carrying around guns?

Of course not! It was because if you parked in the employee lot it meant you were NOT carrying around a gun.

Comparably, if a tax credit is offered for purchase of a gunsafe, everybody in the country will take the credit. That way people like Feinstein will think everybody has a gun - just like she does.

I assure you I will purchase the biggest possible gun safe - as will you no doubt!

32 posted on 12/19/2001 5:25:38 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Eagle Eye
How's this: 36-24-36?
33 posted on 12/19/2001 5:27:00 PM PST by katykelly
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To: Eagle Eye
BTW, where'd you read the guv'mnt's not required to arm the militia?

They did in the old days - actually had an arsenal and if you didn't have a gun (which was rare), you could go there and get one.

We've just fallen out of the practice of arming our warriors, that's all!

34 posted on 12/19/2001 5:27:49 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
That's why I will simply ignore your attitude and continue pushing for the arming of the people so they may protect the republic against its enemies.

The biggest enemies of the republic are those who want to use the power of the government to tax us and use our own money to force us to behave the way it thinks we should behave.

35 posted on 12/19/2001 5:29:28 PM PST by Arleigh
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To: muawiyah
Already got a safe. Not the biggest, but its more than adequate for what I have in it. Its a good place for keepsakes, old coins, and that sort of thing as well. Kept my parent's belongings in there when they went on vacation since nobody was in their house.
36 posted on 12/19/2001 5:30:52 PM PST by meyer
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To: Eagle Eye
If you claim this deduction, will IRS computers add your name to some "list"?...
37 posted on 12/19/2001 5:35:59 PM PST by MileHi
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To: Arleigh
Government provision for anything whatsoever via taxes is an influence upon behavior some way, some how. To build roads is to encourage traffic. To police (wisely) in a place is to encourage residence and business there. To subsidize safes for guns... could well actually encourage acquisition of guns by more law abiding private citizens. Nobody says that because there is a safe that the weapons have to stay in the safe all the time -- or that the safe has to be slow or difficult to access in an emergency. Depends on where the safe is and where you keep the key.
38 posted on 12/19/2001 5:37:47 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: katykelly
Don't tease me like that!
39 posted on 12/19/2001 5:38:03 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: Eagle Eye
Another back door method to establish a data base of gun owners. I say no deal...The dems can't buy (I hope) our submission to a back door scheme.
40 posted on 12/19/2001 5:41:07 PM PST by skinny old man
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