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Son needs article on research about gay lifestyle - please help
12-13-01

Posted on 12/13/2001 12:15:28 PM PST by wyopa

I know that I read here on Free Republic (awhile ago -- perhaps 3-4 months?) an article about research done on the gay lifestyle. The gist of the article was that an independent, non-Christian researcher had determined there is no proof that there is such a thing as a gene that "makes" someone a homosexual. The researcher seemed to be, in fact, surprised at the results of his research.

I have searched here on Free Republic but couldn't find the article. Can anyone point me in the right direction? My son, a freshman in high school, is preparing to argue this out with his entire biology class (all students plus the teacher vs. him). He needs some ammunition.

And one thing Freepers are good at is ammunition!

Any other resources, succinctly written, would also be greatly appreciated.


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To: freemind2
LOL...try saying again what you attempted to say prior...I got lost after your second jump of the fence.

SR

61 posted on 12/13/2001 2:36:29 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: wyopa
I am sorry this is kind of jumbled; Hopefully there is enough info to get a good copy from the original sources. - JG52blackman-

MEDICAL CONSEQUENCES Of WHAT HOMOSEXUALS DO Paul Cameron, Ph.D. Chairman Family Research Institute, Inc. Post Office Box 2091 Washington, DC 20013 (703) 690-8536 Throughout history, all civilizations had all major religions have condemned homosexuality.
1 In the American colonies, homosexual acts were a capital offense. Thomas Jefferson said that homosexuality "should be punished, if a man, by castration, if a woman, by cutting through the cartilage of her nose a hole of one-half inch in diameter as least.
2 Until 1961 homosexual acts were illegal throughout America. Gays claim that the "prevailing attitude toward homosexuals in the U.S. and many other countries is revulsion and hostility....for acts and desires not harmful to anyone."
3 The American Psychological Association and the American Public Health Association assured the U.S. Supreme Court in 1986 that "no significant data show that engaging in...oral and anal sex, results in mental or physical dysfunction."
4 What Homosexuals Do :
The major surveys on homosexual behavior are summarized below.
Two things stand out: 1) homosexuals behave similarly world-over, and 2) as Harvard Medical Professor, Dr. William Haseltine,33 noted in 1993, the "changes in sexual behavior that have been reported to have occurred in some groups have proved, for the most part, to be transient. For example, bath houses and sex clubs in many cities have either reopened or were never closed." : Homosexual Activities (in %) : 1940s__1977 '83/84___1983___1984___1983____1985____1991
_______________ever___ever__ever___in yr__in yr__in mo___in mo__last 6mo
oral/penile_______83_____99__100/99___99_____86_____________67
anal/penile_______68_____91___93/98___95_____92_____95_____100
oral/anal_________59_____83___92/92___63____________69______89_____55/65
urine_sex________10_____23___29/
fisting/toys_______________22___41/47___34
fecal_sex-eating___________4____8
__________-enemas______11___11
torture sex_______22_____37___37/
public/orgy sex____61_____76___88
sex with minors___ 37_____23___24/
* RECTAL SEX: Surveys indicate that about 90% of gays have engaged in rectal intercourse, and about two-thirds do it regularly. In a 6-month long study of daily sexual diaries,3 gays averaged 110 sex partners and 68 rectal encounters a year.
Rectal sex is dangerous. During rectal intercourse the rectum becomes a mixing bowl for: 1) saliva and its germs and/or an artificial lubricant, 2) the recipient's own feces, 3) whatever germs, infections or substances the penis has on it, and 4) the seminal fluid of the inserter. Since sperm readily penetrate the rectal wall (which is only one cell thick) causing immunologic damage, and tearing or bruising of the anal wall is very common during anal/penile sex, these substances gain almost direct access to the blood stream. Unlike heterosexual intercourse (in which sperm cannot penetrate the multilayered vagina and no feces are present),7 rectal intercourse is probably the most sexually efficient way to spread hepatitis B, HIV syphilis and a host of other blood-borne diseases.
Tearing or ripping of the anal wall is especially likely with "fisting," where the hand and arm is inserted into the rectum. It is also common when "toys" are employed (homosexual lingo for objects which are inserted into the rectum--bottles, carrots, even gerbils8). The risk of contamination and/or having to wear a colostomy bag from such "sport" is very real. Fisting was apparently so rare in Kinsey's time that he didn't think to talk about it. By 1977, well over a third of gays admitted to doing it. The rectum was not designed to accommodate the fist, and those who do so can find themselves consigned to diapers for life.
* FECAL SEX: About 80% of gays (see Table) admit to licking and/or inserting their tongues into the anus of partners and thus ingesting medically significant amounts of feces. Those who eat or wallow in it are probably at even greater risk. In the diary study,5 70% of the gays had engaged in this activity--half regularly over 6 months. Result? --the "annual incidence of hepatitis A in...homosexual men was 22 percent, whereas no heterosexual men acquired hepatitis A." In 1992,26 it was noted that the proportion of London gays engaging in oral/anal sex had not declined since 1984.
While the body has defenses against fecal germs, exposure to the fecal discharge of dozens of strangers each year is extremely unhealthy. Ingestion of human waste is the major route of contracting hepatitis A and the enteric parasites collectively known as the Gay Bowel Syndrome. Consumption of feces has also been implicated in the transmission of typhoid fever,9 herpes, and cancer.27 About 10% of gays have eaten or played with [e.g., enemas, wallowing in] feces. The San Francisco Department of Public Health saw 75,000 patients per year, of whom 70 to 80 per cent are homosexual men....An average of 10 per cent of all patients and asymptomatic contacts reported...because of positive fecal samples or cultures for amoeba, giardia, and shigella infections were employed as food handlers in public establishments; almost 5 per cent of those with hepatitis A were similarly employed."10 In 1976, a rare airborne scarlet fever broke out among gays and just missed sweeping through San Francisco.10 The U.S. Centers for Disease Control reported that 29% of the hepatitis A cases in Denver, 66% in New York, 50% in San Francisco, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal and 26% in Melbourne in the first six months of 1991 were among gays.11 A 1982 study "suggested that some transmission from the homosexual group to the general population may have occurred."12
* URINE SEX: About 10% of Kinsey's gays reported having engaged in "golden showers" [drinking or being splashed with urine]. In the largest survey of gays ever conducted,13 23% admitted to urine-sex. In the largest random survey of gays,6 29% reported urine-sex. In a San Francisco study of 655 gays,14 only 24% claimed to have been monogamous in the past year. Of these monogamous gays, 5% drank urine, 7% practiced "fisting," 33% ingested feces via anal/oral contact, 53% swallowed semen, and 59% received semen in their rectum during the previous month.
* OTHER GAY SEX PRACTICES
SADOMASOCHISM: as the Table indicates, a large minority of gays engage in torture for sexual fun. Sex with minors: 25% of white gays17 admitted to sex with boys 16 or younger as adults. In a 9-state study,30 33% of the 181 male, and 22% of the 18 female teachers caught molesting students did so homosexually (though less than 3% of men and 2% of women engage in homosexuality31). Depending on the study, the percent of gays reporting sex in public restrooms ranged from 14%16 to 41%13 to 66%,6 9%16, 60%13 and 67%5 reported sex in gay baths; 64%16 and 90%18 said that they used illegal drugs.
Fear of AIDS may have reduced the volume of gay sex partners, but the numbers are prodigious by any standard. Morin15 reported that 824 gays had lowered their sex-rate from 70 different partners/yr. in 1982 to 50/yr. by 1984. McKusick14 reported declines from 76/yr. to 47/yr. in 1985. In Spain32 the average was 42/yr. in 1989.
Medical Consequences of Homosexual Sex :
Death and disease accompany promiscuous and unsanitary sexual activity. 70%25 to 78%x,13 of gays reported having had a sexually transmitted disease. The proportion with intestinal parasites (worms, flukes, amoeba) ranged from 25%18 to 39%19 to 59%.20 As of 1992, 83% of U.S. AIDS in whites had occurred in gays.21 The Seattle sexual diary study3? reported that gays had, on a yearly average: 1) fellated 108 men and swallowed semen from 48; 2) exchanged saliva with 96; 3) experienced 68 penile penetrations of the anus; and 4) ingested fecal material from 19.
Effects on the Lifespan
Smokers and drug addicts don't live as long as non-smokers or non-addicts, so we consider smoking and narcotics abuse harmful. The typical life-span of homosexuals suggests that their activities are more destructive than smoking nd as dangerous as drugs. Obituaries numbering 6,516 from 16 U.S. homosexual journals over the past 12 years were compared to a large sample of obituaries from regular newspapers.23 The obituaries from the regular newspapers were similar to U.S. averages for longevity; the medium age of death of married men was 75, and 80% of them died old (age 65 or older). For unmarried or divorced men the median age of death was 57, and 32% of them died old. Married women averaged age 79 at death; 85% died old. Unmarried and divorced women averaged age 71, and 60% of them died old.
The median age of death for homosexuals, however, was virtually the same nationwide--and, overall, less than 2% survived to old age. If AIDS was the cause of death, the median age was 39. For the 803 gays who died of something other than AIDS, the median age of death was 42, and 9% died old. The 133 lesbians had a median age of death of 45, and 23% died old.
Two and eight-tenths percent (2.8%) of gays died violently. They were 116 times more apt to be murdered; 24 times more apt to commit suicide; and had a traffic-accident death-rate 18 times the rate of comparably-aged white males. Heart attacks, cancer and liver failure were exceptionally common. Twenty percent of lesbians died of murder, suicide, or accident--a rate 487 times higher than that of white females aged 25-44. The age distribution of samples of homosexuals in the scientific literature from 1989 to 1992 suggests a similarly shortened life-span.
The Gay Legacy :
Homosexuals rode into the dawn of sexual freedom and returned with a plague that gives every indication of destroying most of them. Those who treat AIDS patients are at great risk, not only from HIV infection, which as of 1992 involved over 100 health care workers,21 but also from TB and new strains of other diseases.24 Those who are housed with AIDS patients are also at risk.24 Those who are housed with AIDS patients are also at risk.24 Dr. Max Essex, chair of the Harvard AIDS Institute, warned congress in 1992 that "AIDS has already led to other kinds of dangerous epidemics...If AIDS is not eliminated, other new lethal microbes will emerge, and neither safe sex nor drug free practices will prevent them."28 At least 8, and perhaps as many as 30 (29) patients had been infected with HIV by health care workers as of 1992.
The Biological Swapmeet :
The typical sexual practices of homosexuals are a medical horror story --imagine exchanging saliva, feces, semen and/or blood with dozens of different men each year. Imagine drinking urine, ingesting feces and experiencing rectal trauma on a regular basis. Often these encounters occur while the participants are drunk, high, and/or in an orgy setting. Further, many of them occur in extremely unsanitary places (bathrooms, dirty peep shows), or, because homosexuals travel so frequently, in other parts of the world. Every year, a quarter or more of homosexuals visit another country.20 Fresh American germs get taken to Europe, Africa and Asia. And fresh pathogens from these continents come here. Foreign homo- sexuals regularly visit the U.S. and participate in this biological swapmeet.
The Pattern of Infection:
Unfortunately the danger of these exchanges does not merely affect homosexuals. Travelers carried so many tropical diseases to New York City that it had to institute a tropical disease center, and gays carried HIV from New York City to the rest of the world.27
Most of the 6,349 Americans who got AIDS from contaminated blood as of 1992, received it from homosexuals and most of the women in California who got AIDS through heterosexual activity got it from men who engaged in homosexual behavior.23
The rare form of airborne scarlet fever that stalked San Francisco in 1976 also started among homosexuals.10
: Genuine Compassion :
Society is legitimately concerned with health risks-- they impact our taxes and everyone's chances of illness and injury. Because we care about them, smokers are discouraged from smoking by higher insurance premiums, taxes on cigarettes and bans against smoking in public. These social pressures cause many to quit. They likewise encourage non-smokers to stay non-smokers.
Homosexuals are sexually troubled people engaging in dangerous activities. Because we care about them and those tempted to join them, it is important that we neither encourage nor legitimize such a destructive lifestyle. :
References :
1. Karlen A. SEXUALITY And HOMOSEXUALITY. NY: Norton, 1971.
2. Pines B. BACK TO BASICS. NY: Morrow, 1982, p. 211.
3. Weinberg G. SOCIETY AND THE HEALTHY HOMOSEXUAL. NY: St. Martin's, 1972, preface.
4. Amici curiae brief, in Bowers v. Hardwick, 1986.
5. Corey L. & Holmes, K.K. Sexual transmission of Hepatitis A in homosexual men. "New England Journal of Medicine," 1980:302:435- 38.
6. Cameron P et al Sexual orientation and sexually transmitted disease. "Nebraska Medical Journal," 1985:70:292-99; Effect of homosexuality upon public health and social order "Psychological Reports," 1989, 64, 1167-79.
7. Manligit, G.W. et al Chronic immune stimulation by sperm alloan- tigens. "Journal of the American Medical Association," 1984:251: 237-38.
8. Cecil Adams, "The Straight Dope," THE READER (Chicago, 3/28/86) [Adams writes authoritatively on counter-culture material, his column is carried in many alternative newspapers across the U.S. and Canada].
9. Dritz, S. & Braff. Sexually transmitted typhoid fever. "New England Journal of Medicine," 1977:296:1359-60.
10. Dritz, S. Medical aspects of homosexuality. "New England Journal of Medicine," 1980:302:463-4.
11. CDC Hepatitis A among homosexual men --United States, Canada, and Australia. MMWR 1992:41:155-64.
12. Christenson B. et al. An epidemic outbreak of hepatitis A among homosexual men in Stockholm, "American Journal of Epidemiology," 1982:115:599-607.
13. Jay, K. & Young, A. THE GAY REPORT. NY: Summit, 1979.
14. McKusick, L. et al AIDS and sexual behaviors reported by gay men in San Francisco, "American Journal of Public Health," 1985: 75:493- 96.
15. USA Today 11/21/84.
16. Gebhard, P. & Johnson, A. THE KINSEY DATA. NY: Saunders, 1979.
17. Bell, A. & Weinberg, M. HOMOSEXUALITIES. NY: Simon & Schuster, 1978.
18. Jaffee, H. et al. National case-control study of Kaposi's sarcoma. "Annals Of Internal Medicine," 1983:99:145-51.
19. Quinn, T. C. et al. The polymicrobial origin of intestinal infection in homosexual men. "New England Journal of Medicine," 1983:309:576-82.
20. Biggar, R. J. Low T-lymphocyte ratios in homosexual men. "Journal Of The American Medical Association," 1984:251:1441-46; "Wall Street Journal," 7/18/91, B1.
21. CDC HIV/AIDS SURVEILLANCE, February 1993. 22. Chu, S. et al. AIDS in bisexual men in the U.S. "American Journal Of Public Health," 1992:82:220-24.
23. Cameron, P., Playfair, W. & Wellum, S. The lifespan of homo- sexuals. Paper presented at Eastern Psychological Association Convention, April 17, 1993.
24. Dooley, W.W. et al. Nosocomial transmission of tuberculosis in a hospital unit for HIV-invected patients. "Journal of the American Medical Association," 1992:267:2632-35.
25. Schechter, M.T. et al. Changes in sexual behavior and fear of AIDS. "Lancet," 1984:1:1293.
26. Elford, J. et al. Kaposi's sarcoma and insertive rimming. "Lancet," 1992:339:938.
27. Beral, V. et al. Risk of Kaposi's sarcoma and sexual practices associated with faecal contact in homosexual or bisexual men with AIDS. "Lancet," 1992:339632-35.
28. Testimony before House Health & Environment Subcommittee, 2/24/92.
29. Ciesielski, C. et al. Transmission of human immunodeficiency virus in a dental practice. "Annals of Internal Medicine, 1992:116: 798-80; CDC Announcement Houston Post, 8/7/92
30. Rubin, S. "Sex Education: Teachers Who Sexually Abuse Students." 24th International Congress on Psychology, Sydney, Australia, August 1988.
31. Cameron, P. & Cameron, K. Prevalence of homosexuality. "Psychology Reports," 1993, in press; Melbye, M. & Biggar, R.J. Interactions between persons at risk for AIDS and the general population in Denmark. "American Journal of Epidemiology," 1992:135:593-602.
32. Rodriguez-Pichardo, A. et al. Sexually transmitted diseases in homosexual males in Seville, Spain, "Geniourin Medicina," 1990: 66;423-427.
33. AIDS Prognosis, Washington Times, 2/13/93, C1. = - This educational pamphlet has been produced by FAMILY RESEARCH INSTITUTE, Inc., Paul Cameron, Ph.D., Chairman. Dr. Cameron is recognized worldwide as one of the foremost researchers in human sexuality. - =

62 posted on 12/13/2001 2:55:24 PM PST by JG52blackman
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To: wyopa
You are correct, there is no "gay" gene. The "gay gene" idea is from Hamer's "study" that was published in Science in the early nineties. There have been attempts to confirm his "finding" but this has never been accomplished. In fact the opposite has.

"In their initial X chromosome linkage study, Hamer et al. (1) stated, "As with all linkage studies, replication and confirmation of our results are essential." We agree. To be convincing, such confirmation needs to be obtained by groups using similar methods but working independently of the initial investigators. Hamer presents a "meta-analysis" which appears statistically significant, but does not address the issue of nonreplicability by including his own data in the analysis. Considering only the two studies performed by independent investigators, ours (2) and the unpublished data of Sanders et al. (3), we obtain Xq28 allele sharing of 60/106 = 56.6%, which is not statistically greater than the null hypothesis value of 50% sharing (p > 0.05). In fact, the two independent replication studies combined deviate significantly from the results from Hamer's group (1, 4) (chi-square = 6.53, p < .02). Thus, the conclusion remains that the original studies of Hamer and colleagues are not replicated. "Science, July 1999 link

63 posted on 12/13/2001 2:56:33 PM PST by Varda
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To: freemind2
Back when the subject was taboo

Back when the subject was taboo, there was another sexual activity (heterosexual activity outside of wedlock) that was also heavily stigmatized...pregnant teens were thrown out of schools, thrown out of homes, young women were sometimes booted from jobs...so you mean to tell me that because these unmarried moms felt ostracized, despised, hated & were a "minority group" that in most cases they did not "choose" their predicament?

Sexual activity carries consequences...and the door-opener for ALL sexual activity outside of marriage is uncontrolled lust...folks who blame God ("I was born that way") are not only NOT taking responsibility, but militate vs. one of Jesus' disciples' words (James): "When tempted, no one should say, 'God is tempting me.' For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away & enticed. Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death." (James 1:13-15)

Now that the std "hpv" (human papilloma virus) in women gives birth to cervical cancer that kills thousands of women each year; now that we see that hiv/AIDS gives birth to thousands & thousands of deaths to heterosexuals in Africa & homosexuals everywhere else, folks want to blame God for it.

People do not choose to be gay. They can't be recruited.

Your argument is that despite all of the media overkill on "gayness" that the studies only show but 1-2% of the population that is gay. But the studies I cited were from 1987-1993...I also said on an earlier post that the # of teens who claim to be homosexual is rising. The media splash on homosexuality didn't come about until the early 1990s...so we've yet to fully reap what has been sown.

As for people not choosing to be gay, how do you account for bi-sexuality? Most of those studies cited higher % for bi-sexual activity. Are bi-sexuals "born that way"? Is there a bi-sexual gene? Throughout history, minors have been seduced into all kinds of destructive sexual activity...so, yes, homosexuals are on the "front end" of enticing young people--often via outright abuse...which is why homosexual advocacy groups are on the cutting edge of trying to get age of consent laws changed in various countries.

64 posted on 12/13/2001 2:57:36 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: wyopa
Born Gay Technology Review
[From the July 1993 Technology Review.]
FORUM
PAUL BILLINGS AND JONATHAN BECKWITH
Born Gay?
In an era when researchers Have located the genes for conditions such as Huntington's disease, cystic fibrosis, and Duchenne muscular dystrophy, some scientists believe that "homosexual" genes will soon be found. It comes as no surprise, then, that lately the popular press has been humming with stories about whether homosexuality is genetically determined.

We are uneasy about the current unbridled enthusiasm for studies relating genes with human behavior. Scientists' arguments for a biological basis for human differences have previously been used for insidious ends; the arguments by German scientists before World War II for the genetic inferiority of Jews is just one example.

Moreover, much of the older scientific analysis of the origins of human behavior, particularly using biological methods, has been debunked. In the nineteenth century, for instance, "phrenologists" claimed that they could predict aspects of an individual's personality, such as sexuality, intelligence, and criminal tendencies, merely by examining the skull's structure. Despite its popularity, this "science," which often included explicitly racist implications, was not based on any reliable evidence. More recently, after studies in prisons in the 1960s, geneticists jumped to the conclusion that males with an extra Y chromosome were more likely to be criminals than other men. Followup studies in the general population showed that this claim was unwarranted.

But that is the past. It's always possible that the field of human behavioral genetics has shaken off its tawdry history. Today, when sophisticated techniques can be used to analyze human DNA, maybe the renewed interest in connecting biology and behavior portends the development of a more scientific era. On the other hand, maybe not. A look at recent studies seeking a genetic basis for homosexuality suggests that many of the problems of the past have recurred. We may be in for a new molecular phrenology rather than true scientific progress and insight into behavior.

Determining Sexual Preference

The first issue to reckon with when conducting studies of homosexuality or other behavior entails developing a clearcut picture of who exhibits the trait and who doesn't. This "labeling" problem is exemplified in recent research of Simon LeVay, a respected neuroanatomist. While at the Salk Institute in La Jolla, Calif., LeVay did postmortem examinations of the brains of primarily young male victims of AIDS. In a study published in Science in 1991, he reported a difference between heterosexual and homosexual males in the size of the hypothalamus. But he could not really be certain about his subjects' sexual preferences, since they were dead. Also, the research design and subject sample did not allow others to determine whether it was sexual behavior, drug use, or disease history that was correlated with the observed differences among the subjects' brains.

Even for the living, scientists must decide whether, when trying to classify a person as gay, to rely on the frequency of homosexual behavior, the age at which it began, or, as some psychiatrists have suggested, the presence of homoerotic fantasies. Compounding this difficulty is the reluctance of many gay people to admit their sexual preference. In this situation one can easily create inaccurate or inconsistent study groups.

A related problem cropped up in a study by Michael Bailey, a psychologist at Northwestern University, and Richard Pillard, a psychiatrist at Boston University School of Medicine. In research published in 1991 in Archives of General Psychiatry, they reported that among identical twins reared together, each individual had a high probability (52 percent) of being homosexual if the other twin was. For nonidentical twins, adopted brothers, and non-twin siblings, the correlations were much lower (22, 11, and 9 percent, respectively).

The researchers solicited participation for their study through advertisements in gay newspapers. But this could well have produced a biased sample. It is not unreasonable to think that identical twins who are both openly homosexual would be more likely to volunteer for such a study because of the shared knowledge that they are both comfortable with their sexuality. Furthermore, if one gay twin "comes out" it might be easier for the other to do the same.

While the authors interpreted their findings as evidence for a genetic basis for homosexuality, we think that the data in fact provide strong evidence for the influence of the environment. On average, both non-identical twins and non-twin siblings share 50 percent of their genes. If homosexuality were a genetic trait, the pairs in these groups should besexual a similar percentage of the time. They certainly should be homosexual more often than adopted siblings. But Bailey and Pillard's data do not fit those predictions.

Their results could instead stem from the uniform conditions under which some identical twins are raised, frequently dressed identically by parents and viewed similarly by outsiders. The environment could also figure in the fact that almost half the identical twins did not share sexual preference.

Distinguishing Cause from Effect

Even if one were to accept that these studies indicate a biological correlation with human behavior, this would not mean that some gene or brain difference is responsible for that behavior. LeVay admits that the difference in brain structure he has observed may be due to homosexual activity rather than a cause of it. Techniques that visualize brain structure, such as magnetic resonance imaging and position emission tomography scanning, reveal that the experience of an individual, even as an adult, can significantly affect brain development. One's emotions, life's stresses, and numerous other environmental factors can alter the metbolism ofs the brain and presumably its internal connections.

The problem of distinguishing between cause and effect is perhaps most clearly illustrated by considering genetics and criminality. There is a correlation between genes and the likelihood of incarceration in the United States: a majority of prisoners have inherited dark skin color. But genetics clearly has nothing to do with the fact that the rate of black male incarceration has quadrupled over the last four decades, as Troy Duster, a University of California at Berkiologist, has pointed out. Rather, racism and the tenuous economic power of so much of the African-American population likely play causal roles.

Studies of human behavioral genetics could benefit society. But until geneticists pay more than lip service to the problems in their studies and the complex interactions of genes and the environment, history may simply repeat itself.

It is time to hold behavioral-genetics research to higher standards than in the past, and to recognize that the work is conducted in a society colored by prejudice, stigma, and discrimination.

PAUL BILLINCS, formerly chief of the Division of Genetic Medicine at Califomia Pacific Medical Center in San Francisco, is now head of general internal medicine at the Palo Alto Veterans Administration Hospiral.
JONATHAN BECKWITH is American Cancer Society research professor in the Department o f Microbiology and Molecular Genetics at Harvard Medical School.

65 posted on 12/13/2001 3:00:59 PM PST by Varda
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Gay threads crack me up! Where in the hell do you people get all of your information and why in the hell do you care? If all of you spent as much time researching the economy, the state of our schools, foreign policy, etc. this country will be amazing.
66 posted on 12/13/2001 3:23:32 PM PST by Ashley Dyer
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To: Ashley Dyer
Gay...information...state of our schools

Gay info/State of our schools=same thing. There's a big bullseye around every school & homosexual propaganda is being or trying to be airlifted onto thousands of schools. Evil knows no boundaries; you can try to check it after it's unleashed from various closets, or you can wait til it's in your backyard...either way, it will need to be addressed.

Researching the economy

Researching the economy doesn't help much other than when to buy & sell in the Market (the media can't even get this one right, assigning too much blame or credit to ONE man--the Prez)...other than that, the best economical research that could be done would simply be on the topic of "The consequences of irresponsible use of credit cards"...a lesson few of us have learned no matter how much research we might do on the subject.

Researching...foreign policy

Admittedly, we could all use some improvement here in Tunnel-vision America...one problem is our lens (media/college profs) are way out of focus & they tend not to help anybody see clearly.

67 posted on 12/13/2001 3:37:52 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: All
Thanks so much for everyone's help. Freepers are great.
68 posted on 12/13/2001 5:26:04 PM PST by wyopa
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To: validity4u
LOL...I don't know how to take that, so I'll look at it as humor not sarcasm...

SR

70 posted on 12/13/2001 6:39:50 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
needed=wants really bad
72 posted on 12/13/2001 11:04:39 PM PST by exmoor
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To: RedBloodedAmerican; Dimensio; Eccl 10:2; simicyber; BibChr; Yakboy; TheMole; Colofornian...
You all provided great links and information. My son went off to school well prepared. I did appreciate your insightful comments, pcl.

We'll see how this goes today for him.

73 posted on 12/14/2001 4:35:55 AM PST by wyopa
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To: Jester99; good_ash; pcl; Mean Daddy; JG52blackman; Varda
Didn't realize there was a limit to the recipient list. So here's my thanks to the second half of my list...

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You all provided great links and information. My son went off to school well prepared. I did appreciate your insightful comments, pcl.

We'll see how this goes today for him.

74 posted on 12/14/2001 4:38:25 AM PST by wyopa
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To: wyopa
Good way to start a lengthy, flaming thread.
76 posted on 12/14/2001 5:14:35 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: wyopa
My son, a freshman in high school, is preparing to argue this out with his entire biology class (all students plus the teacher vs. him).

Only my opinion, but I'd be lookin' to put the boy in another school.

77 posted on 12/14/2001 5:22:34 AM PST by jla
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To: NotTheDevil
Wow! What an intellect!

that was pretty sandbox wasnt it? -

How have you been

78 posted on 12/14/2001 5:24:56 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: NotTheDevil
That is what homos do pal. You prove they don't.
79 posted on 12/14/2001 6:25:45 AM PST by 1 FELLOW FREEPER
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To: Revelation 911
Sorry if your "political correctness" was insulted. How many doctors would you you like to have confirm what I said? I was told this by a doctor years ago.If you want to refer to homosexuals as "gay", why not describe what they do, and then tell me how gay they are.The problem is, that ther are very few people who have the guts to mention what homos do.
80 posted on 12/14/2001 6:42:04 AM PST by 1 FELLOW FREEPER
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