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1 posted on 12/13/2001 7:50:35 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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All I can say is I personally signed up a couple hundred fundamentalist Christian voters in my own church and they were all totally behind Bush. In fact, I had a mini-stampede both Sundays that I worked my booth (with complete cooperation from our pastor).
527 posted on 12/13/2001 10:03:38 PM PST by Humidston
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Rove said that one reason the 2000 election was so tight was that as many as 4 million Christian conservatives did not go to the polls

Karl's estimates regarding those types are correct. Also, another relevant factor here is that without those critical "swing voter" shifts, by Catholics and gunowners towards Dubya after McCain dropped out, Al Gore would be President today. I was on the front lines during the 2000 campaign and personally witnessed all this. If the Bush Administration does not do better regarding abortion and gun rights, then 2004 will not be pleasant, regardless of the President's polling numbers today. IMHO, the partial birth abortion ban must pass and several current gun control laws need to be rolled back before Dubya gets a lock on 2004.

544 posted on 12/14/2001 6:23:52 AM PST by Hail Caesar
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Here's what likely happened during a so-called "Christian Coalition" meeting when Bush drunk driving incident was made public:

"Oh man, our candidate Bush isn't perfect. Oh well, time to bail on him. We'll regroup in 4 years and see if we can get a real right-winger elected. We'll probably lose, but we'll lose by bringing up OUR issues without lowering ourselves into this namby-pamby tolerance and outreach trash."

547 posted on 12/14/2001 7:00:49 AM PST by JoeMomma
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Karl Rove is the perfect of example of what we have termed the dysron, one who has normal intelligence, maybe in his case slightly above normal intelligence, but is rendered dysfunctional because of his compulsions and fears.

The Republican Convention, orchestrated by Rove, was a major reason that not only fundamentalist Christians, but many other American Conservatives and traditionalists had a very hard time generating much enthusiasm for the campaign. The spectacle was so caught up in pandering to minorities, as to be almost insulting to the American mainstream. (See Campaign 2000 and Politics 2001--Lesson 2000, for a fuller discussion.)

Karl needs to step aside. He does not know how to motivate. For every new vote he garners by some "politically correct" device, he turns away two or three which would have been his for the asking.

This article reveals a man able to recognize a problem, without a clue as to his own role in creating it. Pathetic at best.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

556 posted on 12/14/2001 8:42:44 AM PST by Ohioan
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Then it sounds like they need to make sure they dont take us for granted.

Another one of the Liberal anointed will rise up to try and take the exec office again...it would do conservatives well to show some respect or perhaps we will stay away again.

And dont whine about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

The Conservative agenda is not our God.

With or without it...Christians already have the victory.

587 posted on 12/14/2001 6:57:26 PM PST by VaBthang4
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"Rove said that one reason the 2000 election was so tight was that as many as 4 million Christian conservatives did not go to the polls, reported "The Chicago Tribune." Although the Bush campaign had expected 19 million evangelical voters to vote for their man, election returns revealed only 15 million turned out to cast ballots"

Could it be because Mr. Bush gave the appearance of appeasing us while trying to play all sides. It was a somewhat smart and necessary move to gain the swing voters approval and he took quite a chance I'll say. It's an uncomfortable position playing both sides of the fence. History will record where he really stands.

597 posted on 12/15/2001 7:07:17 AM PST by hope
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"Speaking yesterday at an American Enterprise Institute seminar, Rove said the Bush campaign "probably failed to marshal support of the base as well as we should have," said the "Tribune." Rove added: "But we may also be returning to the point in America where fundamentalists and evangelicals remain true to their beliefs and think politics is corrupt and, therefore, they shouldn't participate."

Rove said that if the "process of withdrawal" went on it would be bad for the country as well as conservatives and Republicans. "It's something we have to spend a lot of time and energy on."

I've said it here before, and I'll say it yet again: I think Rove is an idiot.

He failed to marshall the Conservative Christian forces due to HIS strategy of "gee, let's all be mamby-pamby and inclusive and hug anyone who isn't white and be kind and sweet and gentle and non-confrontative and moderate and avoid sounding like mean 'n' stuff or God forbid "conservative"".

That B.S. damned near cost his candidate the election, despite an incredibly fat treasure chest and what should have been a slam-dunk election.

WHEN are these morons going to learn????

609 posted on 08/22/2002 3:44:29 AM PDT by RightOnline
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Yes and next time there will be 19 million who will stay home.

Maybe they can depend on all the Illegal immigrant votes and all the bogus hispanic voters that are "secret" republicans.

610 posted on 08/22/2002 3:48:05 AM PDT by Cacique
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618 posted on 08/22/2002 6:09:58 PM PDT by Bob J
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CERTAINLY WE NEED TO BE VOTING AND ENCOURAGING TO VOTE

AND PRAYING AND ENCOURAGING TO PRAY.

Believers reading this thread might also find the one posted at:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/religion/749443/posts

of interest--and certainly worth praying about.

628 posted on 09/12/2002 10:26:52 AM PDT by Quix
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Ping!
632 posted on 10/05/2004 11:00:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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Just how many of these 15 million evangelicals who came out for Bush will come out for Rudy?

Or do you folks think you don't need 'em?
633 posted on 02/07/2007 10:58:51 AM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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Apparently Karl Rove has learned nothing.


634 posted on 08/29/2012 10:07:23 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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