Posted on 12/13/2001 7:50:35 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
STAYAWAY CHRISTIANS ALMOST COST ELECTION
Many Christians believe that prayer played a major role in sending George W. Bush to the White House, but stayaway believers came close to losing him the election, according to his chief political adviser, Karl Rove.
Rove said that one reason the 2000 election was so tight was that as many as 4 million Christian conservatives did not go to the polls, reported "The Chicago Tribune." Although the Bush campaign had expected 19 million evangelical voters to vote for their man, election returns revealed only 15 million turned out to cast ballots.
Speaking yesterday at an American Enterprise Institute seminar, Rove said the Bush campaign "probably failed to marshal support of the base as well as we should have," said the "Tribune." Rove added: "But we may also be returning to the point in America where fundamentalists and evangelicals remain true to their beliefs and think politics is corrupt and, therefore, they shouldn't participate."
Rove said that if the "process of withdrawal" went on it would be bad for the country as well as conservatives and Republicans. "It's something we have to spend a lot of time and energy on."
What can you say to someone who thinks that Henry the K is a Republican (as opposed to a non-political guy who worked for Nixon (and Ford) a quarter of a century ago).
He sold subsidized wheat to the Soviet Union
Next time try to make your point without resorting to the leftist practices of revisionism and leaving things out. The “subsidized” wheat sold to the Soviets was owned by the government under a program apparently initiated by FDR in the early 30s. Farmers who abided by the government acreage allotment of “supported” crops were eligible for a “loan” which was a few cents per bushel above the harvest market price. If the price of the grain went above the loan rate, the farmers sold and pocketed the little bit extra. If the price stayed low, the farmers would default on their loan and the government owned the grain. Soon the government had a big pot full of grain nobody wanted and which placed a lid on the price of any future crop. In the early 70s, the price of wheat was under $1.50 per bushel. As we were driving through north Texas in May, the government (state or fed) was advising the Texas farmers to pasture their wheat. It would be more valuable as meat than grain. Nixon sold the Soviets the government’s wheat at the going market rate. They got a really good deal and the government owned surplus lid on prices was gone and soon the price to the farmers twanged up to over $5 per bushel.
The double digit inflation was due to the energy crisis. The inflation did not occur until the Saudis received $40 per barrel with a production cost of somewhere around $0.50 per barrel. It was double digit one year under Nixon and three under Carter. The worst did not occur until the Carter malaise.
Your sequence of shortages and energy crisis is bass ackwards. It is true that the wage and price controls exacerbated the shortages caused by the energy crisis. The reason being that no one would make a product on which they could make no profit.
The wage and price controls were actually a big favor. The country - including Nixon, remembered favorably how rationing won WWII for us. The oil shortage and resulting inflation was a national emergency that must be solved by government intervention. You are right that it was a complete failure, but a whole generation or more has learned a good lesson from that experiment. Even liberal Democrats will shy away from that concept now.
If you counted ONLY justices nominated by Republicans (even Ford's judge -- Stevens), abortion would be illegal right now.
not really - it is anecdotal. I'm asking if you really think the abortion debate has changed? Or the impact. As I showed you, the actual numbers (while still horrific) have been steadily going down for the past 10 years, and the percent of American in support/opposed to abortion remains steady of 25 years. I just don't see it.
All you people who would rather sit on your @sses and bitch about how the Republicans aren't 'pure' enough, you helped Klintoon get into office.
I don't agree with the Republican party 100%, but it's them or the commucrats.
You don't have any other options at this time.
Politics is a practical thing, best practiced by adults.
More detailed surveys show that the middle 50% (56% in this survey) who are opposed to the complete legalization or the complete illegalization of abortion is mostly composed of people who oppose abortion except for rape, incest, or the life of the mother. This group includes many pro-life activists as well as the Evangelical Christians disparaged in this article by Karl Rove.
Second, the comment he was making was that there had been an erosion in the Republican party that has increased the support for abortion. But this poll shows that for the last 26 years, the numbers have remained essentially steady - no big worrisome increase.
This survey makes no attempt to correlate the issue to political affiliation so this statement is completely unsubstantiated. Surveys that do indicate increasing polarization about the abortion issue within both parties.
If Karl Rove wants social conservatives to vote for his candidate, he just might have to make sure his candidate actively supports the policies that are important to these social conservatives.
Your post implies that Bush appointed all the members of that court. He has only appointed a small minority of that court's members. But I guess somebody still in grade school (your screen name, you know), does not realize that sort of thing.
Which, if applied at the Federal level, would be the kiss of death for Roe v. Wade.
BTW, one thing I love are the FReepers who hold that Chief Justice Taney was a giant of the judiciary (mostly because they wish that the South had won). Roe v. Wade has its origins in the Dred Scott decision...
No the first President of the Senate to be completely neutered, when he tried to act as if he had real authority, was John Adams. You really must try to keep up.
The idea that God acts through history to reward his followers HERE ON EARTH, is a fairly widespread idea, but is still a heresy.
Your right--some people dont know the facts!
And us college graduates call your other crack about my screen name the ad hominem. A personal attack that does not address the argument, often to divert attention away from the FACTS.
Again it is clear that you have not participated in a maor political campaign in a signifigant way. With the campaign finance laws we now have, no contributor has this kind of clout, if they ever did. But the top 20 or so staff members, mostly unpaid, are vital to the campaign, and are listened to.
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