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Survey finds 10 partners before marriage 'normal'
Drudge ^ | 10th December 2001 | Ananova

Posted on 12/09/2001 9:59:41 PM PST by Don Myers

Survey finds 10 partners before marriage 'normal'

The majority of young people think it is normal for a person to have at least 10 sexual partners before marriage.

A survey has also found that three in 10 believe it is acceptable for a girl to lose her virginity before the age of 15.

Research carried out by Brook, the youth sex advisory service, says there is a "cultural change" in young people's attitudes towards sex.

Some 64% of men and 54% of women agreed that it was acceptable for a person to sleep with more than 10 partners before getting married.

But the survey, which questioned people aged 17 to 25, also showed that they wanted more information about sex and contraception.

Men admitted to getting most of their knowledge about contraception from TV and magazines, while women learned the most from magazines and their mothers.

Half of all the young women surveyed said they wished that teachers had supplied them with more information about preventing pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases.

Brook chief executive Jan Barlow said: "Young people have an increasing number of sexual partners and they are saying that's OK.

"But at the same time they don't have the information and access to services that they need.

"Young people must seek out advice and information in order to make their choices and to understand how to protect themselves both against pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases."


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To: chookter
Quit being such a turd, chookter. Your animosity towards Christians is showing...
681 posted on 12/11/2001 11:35:35 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: tortoise
"individuals with real strength of character don't need to hide from temptation because they won't succumb to it."

Right on, Tortoise.
682 posted on 12/11/2001 11:36:18 AM PST by Jadge
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To: John O
No sexual distractions so they can actually get to know each other.

Ummm... Sexual distractions most certainly exist, even if they aren't having sex or dating. I don't think most teenage boys would associate with girls if it wasn't for the fact that they are a sexual distraction. You can call it what you like, but most human behaviors are predicated on sexual distraction either directly or indirectly. The point is not letting the natural state of sexual distraction drive you to do things that you wouldn't do absent it.

683 posted on 12/11/2001 11:38:41 AM PST by tortoise
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To: Marysecretary
Quit being such a turd, chookter. Your animosity towards Christians is showing...

I thought I heard him say once, that he was one, but I don't believe it.

684 posted on 12/11/2001 11:38:57 AM PST by Mark17
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To: John O
Admit it. Dating takes a lot of energy, especially in a relationship. There's always some one else's opinion that has to be counted and your realm of action is severely limited.

That's the point of it. People need to understand that relationships are a lot of work before they get married. Men and women should get used to another person's opinions and needs prior to marriage, if they want their marriage to be successful. This requires some one-on-one time, and I believe it should apply to sex as well.

685 posted on 12/11/2001 11:43:37 AM PST by Cu Roi
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To: John O
"No sexual distractions so they can actually get to know each other."

I went out with a bunch of kids in groups throughout high school, and that's all it was, a big sexual distraction. Wondering how sex would be with this girl or that girl. It certainly wasn't for the enlightening conversation. :)
687 posted on 12/11/2001 11:46:07 AM PST by Jadge
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To: Jadge
That's an intelligence statement, overworn by most people who hop in and out of bed with anyone they want to. The wedding night is NOT too late. I had two husbands and tried it both ways. The wedding night won! There is something very precious about waiting until marriage to have sex. It might not be the greatest the first time, but if you love eachother, it can get better and better with time. Knowing your partner hasn't been with "10 or more partners" has to be special in itself.
688 posted on 12/11/2001 11:46:50 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: Mark17
I read that once, too, but he certainly doesn't show any of that in his posts.
689 posted on 12/11/2001 11:48:03 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: Marysecretary
What does it matter what someone did prior to your knowing them?
690 posted on 12/11/2001 11:48:41 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: marajade
"I knew a girl who had been with 25 guys before she turned 18."

That's sad. Did she have a strong father figure?

Hard to say. He was very ordinary, as far as I could tell. The girl's parents were baby boomers who simply saw nothing wrong or even inappropriate with premarital sex.

Conspicuously lacking in their house was even the slightest trace of religious belief or observance. When this girl finally got married, it was in a Unitarian "church".

691 posted on 12/11/2001 11:49:12 AM PST by Steve0113
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To: dighton; Don Myers
Research carried out by Brook, the youth sex advisory service, says there is a "cultural change" in young people's attitudes towards sex.

It actually does exist.

692 posted on 12/11/2001 11:49:16 AM PST by Orual
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To: John O
Admit it. Dating takes a lot of energy, especially in a relationship.

Sure, though the better relationships don't take nearly as much effort. Marriage takes effort to though, and part of the point of dating is to find out how much effort will be required to have a relationship with a person. I'm not talking about sex, but day to day boring stuff. There are lots of nice girls out there, but some require far more effort to be in a relationship than others, something learned largely through experience. Marriages that require a lot of effort on a day to day basis often fail; people get tired. Relationships/marriages that are nearly effortless are much more robust because there is little cost associated with the fact that the relationship exists.

I can spend a little extra effort now dating if it means that I will have a much more effortless relationship when I am married. I have to deal with a high-effort marriage for a lifetime, whereas dating allows people to recognize high-effort relationships and look for someone who is easier to get along with in practice so that they don't have to face a high-effort relationship for the rest of their life. It is easier on everyone in the long run and builds marriages that are far more likely to weather the storms.

693 posted on 12/11/2001 11:49:18 AM PST by tortoise
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To: Jadge
Sorry, I was just joshing you there. Actually, I think that this whole `Jesus has to be a partner in your marriage' thing limits intimacy between a couple, rather than enriching the relationship. Group `dating' is the warm-up for this in a way because you never get to truly get close to that special person you like.
694 posted on 12/11/2001 11:49:32 AM PST by Cu Roi
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To: pcl
First of all, I said that it was a start. So you have issued a challenge have you? We shall see who wins this one. Right now, however, I can't devote anymore time to this. Expect to get pinged in the next few days.

Marriages preceded by cohabitation are 50 to 100 percent more likely to break up than those not preceded by cohabitation. That is an absurd statement.

There is nothing absurd on the face of this statement.

All the material in the source referred to cohabitation before marriage. You orignal statement in post #548 was about sex before marriage. Granted, cohabitatants do have sex before marriage but most sex before marriage takes place outside of cohabitiation.

I assume you have a study which proves that most cohabitation takes place outside of marriage? And unless you are completely anal retentive (and I am not excluding that possibility), you should be able to acknowledge that it is fair at least to make strong inferences about the effects of premarital sex by studying cohabitation.

695 posted on 12/11/2001 11:51:04 AM PST by independentmind
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To: Marysecretary
Did you wait for your wedding night with the first husband or the second?
696 posted on 12/11/2001 11:51:59 AM PST by Jadge
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To: independentmind
Try again.

I assume you have a study which proves that most premarital sex cohabitation takes place outside of cohabitation marriage?

697 posted on 12/11/2001 11:54:07 AM PST by independentmind
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To: Cu Roi
I have always found "group dating" to be chickens**t. Have some guts. Put yourself out there. In a one on one date, you don't have the safety net of your friends to fall back on. You have no choice but to learn about the person who is with you, and vice versa.

My brother dated this way and married the first girl he ever dated. They fight all the time, and there is a distance between them, still.
698 posted on 12/11/2001 11:55:47 AM PST by Jadge
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To: John O
 
"DONT HAVE PREMARITAL SEX."
"Just say no to drugs."

It's useless to talk to pcl. He is obviously of the "if it feels good, do it" philosophy. People like that don't want any sort of morality, guilt, or consequences to slow down their parties, and they will condone absolutely anything that keeps them from having to deal with consequences. Anything. On the other hand, he might later say this answer he gave you was satire (i.e., a lie to provoke you to say something rash so that he could act very superior and condescending and say "Peace be with you").  He likes "satire" so much.
699 posted on 12/11/2001 11:58:38 AM PST by Texas Gal
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To: John O
A non Christian can never have great sex as they cannot be satisfied in spirit.

Absurd. Absurd and condescending.

700 posted on 12/11/2001 11:58:43 AM PST by pcl
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