Posted on 11/29/2001 11:08:32 PM PST by MadIvan
Just announced on British news. Nothing follows.
...unlike my parents, both of whom reached that milestone this past summer.:-)
I don't remember their Sullivan appearance (I was only 2 1/2 years old at the time). No, when I first heard (of) "the Beatles", my then 4- or 5 year old mind thought they were cartoon characters, which in a way they were, not unlike me, even today at 40. (Heck, in high school someone went so far as to call me a cartoon character. He did it more than once, that's how goofy I was [and am]). :-) But back to the Fab Four 'toon. I refer not to Yellow Submarine but to this. Remember?
It wasn't until I was about 7 or 8 that I learned the Beatles were a actual group, and about 9 that I learned they were from England, and about 10 that I learned that they were from Liverpool. I knew Liverpool existed (from my looking at atlases) before I knew the Beatles hailed from there.
The first Beatle song I remember myself hearing on the radio was "Get Back", or perhaps "Hey Jude", though I remembered IWTHYH, SLY, CBML, AHDN, "Little Child", "Help!", their remake of "Boys", plus some I can't think of right now, from their Saturday morning cartoon show on ABC that I linked earlier in this post.
Today I went to the cemetery to visit the graves of three of my grandparents (the other is buried in another cemetery), and I noticed the plaque marking the grave of a Mrs./Ms. Beatley. With Harrison on everyone's mind today, I couldn't resist covering up the Y in "Beatley" with my foot. :-)
Also today I went to Waldenbooks and there on the discount shelves, for $6.99, was a copy of The Beatles: An Oral History. Natch I bought it. I doubt if I would have at the list price of $23.95.
George, "I Want to Tell You", I hope you and John came to Christ before leaving us, because there'll be plenty of jam jars and "Savoy Truffle"s up there where our sweet Lord is.
foreverfree
P.S. I'm getting ready to preview and post this, so FReepers, "Don't Bother Me" till you've read it, OK? :-)
It is. I got it as a Christmas present when it came out in 1983. So is Barry Miles' "Many Years from Now" (about Paul) which was a 1997 yuletide gift of mine.
foreverfree
In MY Free Republic, choices are made and consequences accepted. I don't remember Harrison whining about his cancer (which we don't know for sure was linked to either his smoking or drug/alcohol intake). Seems he took his fate like a champ.
Just remember that you could most likely live a thousand lifetimes and not have the impact on the world that Harrison had in his 50-some odd years - booze and cigarettes included.
I'll mourn his passing and I will listen to his music the next few days, but I also wonder about punchbowl turds like you that seize opportunities like this to further YOUR agendas. Is there anything more tacky?
You talk about "Beatles adoration". Maybe you should stop adoring yourself and YOUR lifestyle so much, and simply LIVE your life (not mine) - after all, you could get run over by a bus tomorrow.
One Friday night in the spring of 1978, as my junior year in HS was winding down, I was channel surfing and came across a special about the Fab Four. Natch they showed footage of Bible Belt Beatle burnings (one girl was shown breaking up a Beatle album by violently bunny hopping on it in her pumps). The following week, as we were waiting for English class, I discussed the Beatle special with a classmate. I told her about John's Jesus remark. She said, "Well, it was true. Shouldn't have been, but it was."
foreverfree
foreverfree
Wrong.
Lennon never "admitted" any such thing. In fact he made it a point to humiliate Epstein about his homosexuality, even referring to Epstein's book about the Beatles, A Cellarful of Noise as "A Cellarful of Boys". Author Peter Brown, himself a homosexual, made up the story about the "consummation" to sell the book after the only parties who could say for sure were dead.
Nice try at revisionism, though.
I have always thought that George dished Patty off to his buddy Clapton, like "here, I'm done with her". At the time Boyd took up with Clapton, George was asked if he was going to divorce her and he just laughed and said something to the effect of, "Divorcing her would be as senseless as marrying her."
It was well-known amongst the "Beatle community" that Brian Epstein was gay and had a crush on John Lennon right from the beginning, and Lennon himself admitted to having an encounter with him in Spain.
You responded:
Wrong. Lennon never "admitted" any such thing. In fact he made it a point to humiliate Epstein about his homosexuality, even referring to Epstein's book about the Beatles, A Cellarful of Noise as "A Cellarful of Boys". Author Peter Brown, himself a homosexual, made up the story about the "consummation" to sell the book after the only parties who could say for sure were dead. Nice try at revisionism, though. From John Lennon's 1980 Playboy interview:
PLAYBOY: What started the rumors about you and Epstein?LENNON: I went on holiday to Spain with Brian -- which started all the rumors that he and I were having a love affair. Well, it was almost a love affair, but not quite. It was never consummated. But we did have a pretty intense relationship. And it was my first experience with someone I knew was a homosexual. He admitted it to me.
I can remember telling my Mother that the Beatles had made me feel good again after the President's death. Nice to know that although we are strangers, we share the same memories isn't it?
God Bless George, and be with his family. I hope they know that so many mourn his loss with them.
Sorry you felt that way George, as I never thought of you that way. Have a safe trip.
I used the word "encounter" instead of "affair" in my original response for a reason -- I remembered Lennon referring in the Playboy interview to something almost happening, but it not being consummated, which is basically what he said. The thing is, I read "The Love You Make" when it first came out, but I didn't remember any of the specific details about it in the book! I do remember Albert Goldman suggesting that Lennon had had gay affairs in Thailand, but that he didn't seem to have any evidence to back it up.
What is the true story? I think if John Lennon had had a full-fledged affair with Epstein, he would have admitted it in that interview. Lennon went into excruciating detail about so many other things -- his addiction to heroin, how his children were conceived, etc., that he would have admitted to an affair with Epstein if it had happened.
I just meant that I didn't know them, Mary Kay died too... BTW... she was a capitalist and thats important too.
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