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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Mean Maryjean
****I can't begin to tell of the number of times I've read articles, threads, etc. on FR in the morning, only to hear Rush, Hannity or Savage speak about the very same things later in the day on their radio shows. I say to myself..."they MUST have been reading off FreeRepublic!" (ha!ha!)***

Same with Brit Hume on Fox News. Daily! And I have the SAME thought...LOL
3,681 posted on 08/06/2002 10:15:32 AM PDT by justshe
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To: Jim Robinson
It must stay!!! Where is the Donations link?
3,682 posted on 08/06/2002 10:19:05 AM PDT by FreeMe2
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To: Richard Axtell
"The Free Republic is without question has become one of the most influential and important conservative political web sites on the web, and among the most important sites of any kind!"

Amen to that, and I'm ashamed to say I've been a "deadbeat", but I will send a contribution immediately!!

I also didn't realize this thread started last November, but clearly it's worth our continued attention! IMO, the fact that FR is an "open forum" is partly what makes it so valuable and influential...my preference would be to keep it that way (always with the appropriate "moderating", of course!) while perhaps revising the "business model" somehow so "FRee-will subscriptions" could be a more reliable source of funds. I'm certain there are some FReeper business wizards out there (I'm not one of them!) who may have useful ideas!

I also expect that many "new folks" (even if they're a bit "disruptive") who have discovered this wonderful "forum of ideas" will either not appreciate it (and thus stop FReeloading!) or (more likely) will be happy to start contributing to a very worthy "cause" (like me../red face!)!!

3,683 posted on 08/06/2002 10:20:37 AM PDT by 88keys
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To: Jim Robinson
It must stay!!! Where is the Donations link?
3,684 posted on 08/06/2002 10:20:57 AM PDT by FreeMe2
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To: Jim Robinson
Free Republic Rules! We'll do anything to keep it going. Just tell us what you need, Jim, we're here for you always.
3,685 posted on 08/06/2002 10:25:22 AM PDT by Teacup
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To: No!
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...........

That would've been much more effective with an extra "m" or three.
Here ya go:

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...........

Much better, dontcha think?

3,686 posted on 08/06/2002 10:35:40 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: FreeMe2
(Link to donate monthly or just a donation)
3,687 posted on 08/06/2002 10:38:01 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: tomkat; Arthur McGowan
btw, had anyone pinged Arthur to this thread yet ?

You are sooooo bad!

3,688 posted on 08/06/2002 10:39:11 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: FreeMe2
Here you go.

Everyone should try it. Isn't it so much nicer when somebody does something nice without being asked! (fun too)

3,689 posted on 08/06/2002 11:33:48 AM PDT by Joe Driscoll
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To: justshe
just for the record, just she.

Jim is well aware that I am francisandbeans.

That name is no longer active here.
3,690 posted on 08/06/2002 11:37:52 AM PDT by DeadManRunning
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To: Jim Robinson
BWAHAHA...

Just for the record, JimRob, some folks are over there representin'. No matter where, uh, "these folks" go, Free Republic will always be Home Sweet Home.

BUMP

3,691 posted on 08/06/2002 11:41:41 AM PDT by maxwell
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To: DeadManRunning
***just for the record, just she.

Jim is well aware that I am francisandbeans.

That name is no longer active here. ***


Thanks. Now I know too. Why isn't francisandbeans active here?
3,692 posted on 08/06/2002 11:42:03 AM PDT by justshe
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To: Jim Robinson
No one is getting rich off this

Well, they should. You have a great idea, done excellent work on it, and put up with a lot of crap from idiots. And as far as people trying to shut down FR, well too damn bad for them. I and others would start a new one. It will not go away.

I was going to send a yearly donation, but have decided to do it monthly so I can increase as needed (If I send one big one I would probably get lazy and not send another until next year).

This site motivates me to keep up on things, gives me a place to have my say, and has inspired to work on my own web site (I already have a list of all tv and newspapers sites linked). I used to be active in local government and then my work schedule got in the way - but with email and faxing and this web site I feel more involved then I was before.

I may have my complaints at times about moved threads, etc, but this is your place and I try to always keep that in perspective. As far as subscription based - I think it would probably cause more problems then it solves. Are there any other types of donations other then money you could use? Like hardware, administrative work, programming, etc? I am sure many of us would donate both time and money to the cause and anything else we could. Or maybe our own freeper ebay where a % of each sale made goes to the war chest. Let me know if you need anything - money on the way when pay day rolls around. God Bless.

3,693 posted on 08/06/2002 11:43:49 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: Constitution Day
I'm a donor!!!! Why would anyone think I'm not????
3,694 posted on 08/06/2002 11:47:48 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: DeadManRunning
Wanna light, bud?


3,695 posted on 08/06/2002 11:48:05 AM PDT by maxwell
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To: justshe
francisandbeans doesn't like moderators and likes to say so.

francisandbeans also misses alot of his friends here and hope's that his friends will join him in another forum.

francisandbeans is also ashamed to be speaking in the third person.
3,696 posted on 08/06/2002 11:50:23 AM PDT by DeadManRunning
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To: maxwell
thanks, but I'll stick to matches.

Like my butt and your face.

Sorry, an 8 year old just did a "type-by" on my computer.

:P

Keep the lounge going bud.
3,697 posted on 08/06/2002 11:52:29 AM PDT by DeadManRunning
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To: Arthur McGowan; tomkat
Ask tomkat!
I don't think he was implying you're not a donor, BTW.

CD

3,698 posted on 08/06/2002 11:55:33 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: DeadManRunning
Like my butt and your face.

BWAHAHA! Aw, kids... What can ya do with 'em...

PUFF

3,699 posted on 08/06/2002 11:57:23 AM PDT by maxwell
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To: maxwell
kids... What can ya do with 'em...

Well you can't shoot em anymore. Hell, they give you grief if you make them work 14 hour days I hear.

3,700 posted on 08/06/2002 12:16:34 PM PDT by DeadManRunning
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