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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Announcements; Breaking News
KEYWORDS: bushbabeslist; enviralists; hughhewitt; jimroblist; opuslist; usocanteen; zionist
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To: Z2
$15 in from Texas. Thank you Texas!!
3,341 posted on 02/19/2002 10:22:55 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
This is the only conservative sanctuary where I can get extremely po'd or laugh my head off in the same evening. Please keep it online. I've donated before, if it means becoming a paid subscriber, I'll sign up.

Thank you Jim for all that you do. Saying I'm grateful to you is a huge understatement.

3,342 posted on 02/19/2002 10:24:34 PM PST by kstewskis
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To: Jim Robinson
$15 in from Texas. Thank you Texas!!

Congratulations! Shall we negotiate some sort of commission or royalty?

3,343 posted on 02/19/2002 10:26:08 PM PST by Z2
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To: Deb
$50 in from Tennessee. For the "Best damn site on the Net (by far)!" Thank you Tennessee!!
3,344 posted on 02/19/2002 10:26:09 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Z2
As Joan Jett found out with the music Rush uses for his show opens and bumpers...tough. He licensed it. He paid the fees. He can use it. Of course when someone said JJ objected to its use, Rush dropped her music because he's a gentleman, but he didn't have to. She then backed down and claimed she never objected, at which point Rush used it again, but she could have pulled it from her catalog if she had wanted to be a bitch.

But Limbaugh's show is obviously a commercial/for profit production so your question doesn't quite apply.

It used to be that 8 bars of a song could be used without royalties being sought, but I'm not sure if that's still law.

3,345 posted on 02/19/2002 10:32:55 PM PST by Deb
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To: Z2
Just keep posting maybe we can fund the radio shows while we are at it. My next show could be all about those vampires that have no life like you. LOL oh I am in that mood tonight. Is it a full moon?
3,346 posted on 02/19/2002 10:35:07 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Jim Robinson
zap my card for the normal please!
3,347 posted on 02/19/2002 10:36:24 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Z2
No, I think our current arrangement is working fine. Keep up the good work.
3,348 posted on 02/19/2002 10:37:21 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: TLBSHOW
Why, thank you sir!
3,349 posted on 02/19/2002 10:37:46 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Was that $15 from Texas? Geez, why don't they just send aluminium cans?

At least you're safe from the hairy hand of ASCAP and BMI, but maybe Laz should consider writing some original music for the next event.

3,350 posted on 02/19/2002 10:44:02 PM PST by Deb
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To: Deb
He licensed it. He paid the fees. He can use it.

Well, I guess we have a fact question as to whether FR's use is commercial. It would appear from Jim's responses that no license was obtained, no fees were paid, and no permission was granted.

I'm curious to know whether permission was sought, and if so, what was the reponse? I believe perhaps BobJ can speak to that issue, if he will. I would also be curious to know whether the management of FR makes it a policy to discuss matters such as this before they utilize someone's property for their own purposes.

I find FR's philosophy about private property to be rather curious, being the conservative site it claims to be.

I appreciate your input, Deb.

3,351 posted on 02/19/2002 10:46:58 PM PST by Z2
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To: Deb
Yup. And he's got almost three years to produce it. The next Free Republic Inaugural Ball for President Bush will be in January, 2005.
3,352 posted on 02/19/2002 10:49:20 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Z2
Er, I think the Supreme Court is ok with transformative parodies. Look it up.
3,353 posted on 02/19/2002 10:50:31 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
is this thread still here?? is it time for this thread to go away??

couldn't resist

3,354 posted on 02/19/2002 10:52:50 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Jim Robinson
Parodies and satire require no permission, no fees, no licensing. Sky's the limit.
3,355 posted on 02/19/2002 10:56:00 PM PST by Deb
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To: GeronL
This thread represents Z2's shining moment of glory. I don't have the heart to take it down. It will forever be revered in the Anti-FReeper Hall of Shame.
3,356 posted on 02/19/2002 10:56:02 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Deb
Good. I hereby declare this entire website a parody and satire on American Politics and the Left-Wing Corporate Media (The LA Times and Washington Post in particular). Thank you, Ma'am
3,357 posted on 02/19/2002 10:59:03 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
A pair of what and whose tire?
3,358 posted on 02/19/2002 11:04:07 PM PST by harrowup
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To: Jim Robinson
The FReeper video was a transformative parody! Who knew?

I must say I thrill at your creativity, Jim. Thanks for all the great laughs.

Best of luck on your upcoming fundraiser! Oh, and I hope you'll update us on the settlement negotiations on that other "transformative" issue at your earliest convenience. Goodnight!

3,359 posted on 02/19/2002 11:06:23 PM PST by Z2
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To: Jim Robinson
oh wait, thats it!! Change America's Premier Conservative News Forum to America's Premier News Satire Forum!

problem solved. =o)

3,360 posted on 02/19/2002 11:07:30 PM PST by GeronL
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