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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: diotima
I haven't used the IRS on anybody, muffin. Why don't you tell us who did? If they did, and if you know.
2,901 posted on 12/02/2001 9:10:37 AM PST by Z2
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To: Arator
You just cannot stop talking about yourself or FR, can you?

How many more of these "last posts" will we be seeing? I'll start counting with the one you reply to me with.

2,902 posted on 12/02/2001 9:13:44 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Z2
Hmmm maybe you can tell me which one of your buddies, is being referred to HERE, buttercup?
2,903 posted on 12/02/2001 9:15:54 AM PST by diotima
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To: Arator
And with that, I shall return to my voluntary exile.

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So, just say the word and I will bid you and everyone a fond FReeper farewell. Otherwise, I'll stick around and freep -- oh so very politely freep, that is. :^)

2749 posted on 12/1/01 5:33 PM Eastern by Arator

To: Arator

Ok. Please leave.

2752 posted on 12/1/01 5:49 PM Eastern by Jim Robinson

2,904 posted on 12/02/2001 9:19:42 AM PST by Howlin
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To: diotima
Well, peaches, all I can tell you for sure is that it wasn't me. I don't know if that occurred, but if it did, you've got the wrong guy.
2,905 posted on 12/02/2001 9:20:16 AM PST by Z2
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To: Howlin
Did you forget
2,906 posted on 12/02/2001 9:22:18 AM PST by deport
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To: Z2
Well, cookie, then I apologize if I implied it was you. I don't know who did it, but you'll have to reserve me the right to believe that it isn't above your "peeps'" modus operandi.
HUGS.
2,907 posted on 12/02/2001 9:24:16 AM PST by diotima
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To: diotima
You're painting with a brush that's a little too broad for this painting, dumplin'. I think I know who TS "thinks" did what she "alleges" was done, and that person doesn't post on AFWAA, and never has. Hope that helps.
2,908 posted on 12/02/2001 9:30:34 AM PST by Z2
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To: aligyrl-02; Z2
Man, you guys are wetting yourselves trying to sucker people over to your site(s?). What, do you run banner ads or harvest addresses for spammers or something?
2,909 posted on 12/02/2001 9:35:04 AM PST by Ratatoskr
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To: deport
Voluntarily left after being asked is what it looks like to me.
2,910 posted on 12/02/2001 9:37:15 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
If only a few others would show as much "class" as Arator...

(choke, choke!)

2,911 posted on 12/02/2001 9:38:49 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: Ratatoskr
Not at all. JR started this thread for a reason. We're merely trying to stay on topic and direct those with questions about the anti-freepers to the anti-freeper site.
2,912 posted on 12/02/2001 9:38:54 AM PST by aligyrl-02
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To: aligyrl-02
We're merely trying to stay on topic and direct those with questions about the anti-freepers to the anti-freeper site.

Your concern for the smooth operation of Free Republic is touching, if not entirely convincing.

I'm guessing b) harvesting addresses for spammers.

2,913 posted on 12/02/2001 9:41:08 AM PST by Ratatoskr
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To: Z2
It does help, thanks.
G-d Bless!
2,914 posted on 12/02/2001 9:51:04 AM PST by diotima
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To: Ratatoskr
Our site is a free site. We make no money, charge no money, spend no money. The administrator works for free. Consequently, we require no fundraisers. ;-)
2,915 posted on 12/02/2001 9:54:42 AM PST by Z2
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To: John Robinson
POOF! You're a monkeyshine moderator. Have fun!

And now for something completely different.


2,916 posted on 12/02/2001 9:55:15 AM PST by monkeyshine
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To: diotima
You're welcome, cupcake. Stop by and see us, sometime.
2,917 posted on 12/02/2001 10:06:08 AM PST by Z2
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To: Howlin
Say, Howlin, does this mean Clarity is on your **itlist now? LOL
2,918 posted on 12/02/2001 10:10:10 AM PST by aligyrl-02
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To: aligyrl-02
I'll believe it when I hear those words from Clarity himself. You'll pardon me if I don't take YOUR word for anything.

And, say, you didn't answer my question above: can you direct us to ANYWHERE on the internet you post ANYTHING besides anti-FR stuff?

I do have a "list"....it's pretty short; you don't even get an honorable mention.

2,919 posted on 12/02/2001 10:12:23 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Z2
We make no money, charge no money, spend no money

Do I even have to say it?

2,920 posted on 12/02/2001 10:13:13 AM PST by Howlin
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