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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
You should apologize to Howlin immediately.

IHC, you are a gentleman. Though we may not on much, welcome back.

2,541 posted on 11/30/2001 4:43:51 PM PST by dighton
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Thank you so much. My warmest Holiday wishes to you, too, Harry.
2,542 posted on 11/30/2001 4:44:56 PM PST by riley1992
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To: Bob J; diotima
You disgusting piece of filth.

I'd like to know what the real identity of this person is.

I can give a good guess already.

2,543 posted on 11/30/2001 4:45:47 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
Am I the only one around here that sees the insanity of Bob choosing this guy's post to take a shot at the Antis?
2,544 posted on 11/30/2001 4:46:48 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Yes. You are. Out of 2,500+ posts that one did, indeed, stand out.
2,545 posted on 11/30/2001 4:48:56 PM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: Jim Robinson
Over 2,600 replies and I am tucking my first in amongst such silliness as to make my brain curl ...

Thank you, sir ... thank you ... I remember days before FR ... I would scramble for papers .... go to the library ... struggled, I did, to find the INFORMATION I needed ...

And it was here all along ...

I learned right quickly to avoid those threads which held little interest to me ...

But my very first response was ~~~ tears ~~~ sorry .... but that is the truth ... to finally find the truth and be given the opportunity to learn ... giving me power ... well ...

All the days of my life ... I'll not be forgetting you.

2,546 posted on 11/30/2001 4:49:25 PM PST by illstillbe
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To: Lazamataz
"maggots in the soul."

An apt description, Laz, and one I cannot improve upon. Maybe Jim should keep this as a permanent thread, and a record of the mental workings of some of these folks. The hatred is almost palpable through the screen. Very scary.

2,547 posted on 11/30/2001 4:49:45 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Aaaaarrrgggghhhhh, the word agree dropped outta there!
2,548 posted on 11/30/2001 4:50:32 PM PST by dighton
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To: Miss Marple
I was in shock when I read his post. I had to walk away.
2,549 posted on 11/30/2001 4:51:41 PM PST by Slip18
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To: illstillbe
illstillbe ... get you count right ... it's not after bein' over 2600 yet ...you meant 2500
2,550 posted on 11/30/2001 4:52:13 PM PST by illstillbe
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To: lowbridge
I'll take two of those, please.
2,551 posted on 11/30/2001 4:53:58 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: CharacterCounts
Just be sure to eat some cheese with that whine!
2,552 posted on 11/30/2001 4:54:12 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
I like cheese. A moose once bit my sister. Mynd yu, moose bytes can be pretty baaad...
2,553 posted on 11/30/2001 4:55:27 PM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: Cyber Liberty
Yes, the guy's profane personal attack stood out like a sore thumb. It was sick and had no place in this discussion or any other. However, what kind of evidence does anyone have that he was an AFer? To immediately jump on a thread and take a shot at the Antis because of some sicko's personal attack (which was totally unrelated to AF issues, BTW) was uncalled for, IMO.

Regards,
Callahan

2,554 posted on 11/30/2001 4:56:59 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Am I the only one around here that sees the insanity of Bob choosing this guy's post to take a shot at the Antis?

No one can know for sure who it was.

But I would LOVE to know.

Hell is on Earth, too.

Nonetheless, bro, pick a side. Anti's or Freepers. I daresay there is significantly less sanity among the Anti's then the Freepers -- though we have our bad apples, too -- but on the whole this side is a lot better all the way around. If *I* was you, I'd take that very generous olive branch offered by JR and mimimize the cheerleading you are doing in the Anti world. Betchya you'd be a PermaFreeper without any further complications if you chose sides.

2,555 posted on 11/30/2001 4:58:18 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Good point. Let's wait and see what develops.
2,556 posted on 11/30/2001 4:58:46 PM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: dighton
Hi there. Thanks for the kind words. Quite a thread, eh?
2,557 posted on 11/30/2001 4:59:18 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Cyber Liberty
and all you wanted to be? Which number was that again?
2,558 posted on 11/30/2001 5:01:20 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Lazamataz
Laz, I know you're trying to help and I appreciate it. Really, I do. And I'm not cheerleading for anybody. I seen an unfair attack launched against an ENTIRE group of people that had nothing to do with anything they did or said. It was unjust and needed to be called out.

Again, I appreciate your advice and kindness.

Callahan

2,559 posted on 11/30/2001 5:03:53 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: BeforeISleep
Why does he owe Howlin and me an apology? Was it a good attack or a vile attack? Like a demoRAt attack?
2,560 posted on 11/30/2001 5:05:05 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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