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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: samtheman
One of the big reasons to give money to this place is to make it available to others out there in search of just this kind of forum. Contributions are like building a bridge between Haves and HaveNots in terms of information. Making it a pay-for-view site would be like erecting a toll booth in the center of the bridge.

I agree.

Just out of curiosity, though, what has this to do with my point that those who voluntarily choose to use this site on a regular basis, should voluntarily choose to pay for that which they use, and voluntarily commit themselves to a monthly gifting arrangement, as I have suggested??

I am not suggesting anything mandatory...
...merely a point of honor.

A point which, it should be said, I believe many old-time FReepers already understand... and thus have voluntarily committed themselves to monthly support of this website -- a regimen worth emulating.

2,181 posted on 11/29/2001 7:46:50 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: Arator
see post 2175
2,182 posted on 11/29/2001 7:47:22 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: incindiary
You've got (FReep) mail!
2,184 posted on 11/29/2001 7:47:46 PM PST by Sam Spade
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To: Jim Robinson
LATWP doesn't seem to have a problem with liberal websites posting "hundreds of full articles" AFTER mmmorron's ruling.

Their web geeks must have lost the ability to track direct links to their respective sites. An amazing feat, considering that 99.999% of the rest of the Net industry has improved and refined its ability to track such traffic in the interregnum. ;-)

2,185 posted on 11/29/2001 7:48:52 PM PST by an amused spectator
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To: Fred Mertz
It does seem like small potatoes when talking about $240,000 a year in donations.
2,186 posted on 11/29/2001 7:49:29 PM PST by aligyrl-02
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2,187 posted on 11/29/2001 7:50:10 PM PST by firewalk
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To: Fury
lol....right on

AND he keeps going AND going AND going ...a rather obsessive little toady isn't he? AND he still, to this minute, is still posting. What a waste of bandwidth.

As the Clintons need to be the bride at every wedding, the corpse at every funeral.....appears Arator needs FR to sustain his empty life.

He hates FR, yet does not leave,
He states FR is the pits, a 'gulag', yet he doesn't break free.
He disagrees vehemently with the site's owner, but it appears he has nowhere else to go.....

2,188 posted on 11/29/2001 7:52:21 PM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: TLBSHOW
You need rest.

(and a brain transplant...)

2,189 posted on 11/29/2001 7:52:55 PM PST by Sam Spade
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To: TLBSHOW; BADJOE
I am a poor guy, but I made a vow a few months ago to send $5 a month and I have kept it up.

I'm putting a $5 bill in an envelope and I am licking it shut and I'm gonna snail mail it to Free Republic.

As Courage the Cowardly Dog would say "the things I do for love".

2,191 posted on 11/29/2001 7:53:04 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Fred Mertz
Have you ever seen people so obsessed with the finances of an entity they don't even own?
2,192 posted on 11/29/2001 7:54:12 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Sam Spade
Like I said run back to mommy eschoir and your anti-nuts!
2,193 posted on 11/29/2001 7:55:18 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Arator
My love/hate relationship with FR is a long, long story. What you are observing now is final unwinding of this long and sometimes tortured saga....I am really not self-absorbed at all. If I seem that way, it's only because so many seem to be absorbed with me.... I was thrust into the role of defender of free speech rights for downtrodden minority conservative sub-factions here on FR....I never wanted to be the center of some long running FReeper soap opera.

I haven't read something with so many references to "I" and "me" since Chelsea Clinton's Talk Magazine article.

2,194 posted on 11/29/2001 7:55:56 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: Jim Robinson
Hard Times at the
FreeRepublic.com? 11/29


Above is the buzzflash headline, in case you were curious. It's now in their 3rd column.
2,195 posted on 11/29/2001 7:56:08 PM PST by summer
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To: Howlin
Have you ever seen people so obsessed with the finances of an entity they don't even own?

I suspect they are doing it "for the children"...

2,196 posted on 11/29/2001 7:56:51 PM PST by Fury
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To: aligyrl-02
I'm going to donate generously in December. Usually I send a check, but I might send cash this time around. Nothing like the green stuff, doncha know?
2,197 posted on 11/29/2001 7:58:03 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: brityank; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Sabertooth; Jim Robinson; Grampa Dave
i don't do automatic payments, but i will continue to contribute $50 per quarter.

i have lurked since the start, and perhaps nowadays say more than
i should, but posting here is a privilege, and having the friends,
acquaintances and, yes, adversaries i have met here is an honor.

let's please continue this endeavor.

this forum is a seat of power. do not underestimate it.
it is a life form deserving of our respect, and that of others.

thank you all for the intelligence, insight, wit, talent, foresight, comfort,
and above all, the best source of breaking news available.

shields up. eagles up.

shoot straight. shoot safe. practice. carry. glock rocks.

2,198 posted on 11/29/2001 7:58:05 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: Arator
Why does a battered wife return to the arms of a husband who'll just beat on her all over again? Because she loves the fool despite all his faults, that's why. OK, now I really DO need to get a grip. LOL.

I think that's the most pathetic thing I've ever read at Free Republic.

2,199 posted on 11/29/2001 7:58:26 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
LOL. Right on!

Of course, this now makes me a FR shill. But my implanted FR mind control chip seems to be working fine.

2,200 posted on 11/29/2001 7:58:56 PM PST by Fury
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