China's Whampoa Ltd. opens port in Bahamas

Washington Times ^ | 20 November 2001 | John Collins

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FREEPORT, Bahamas

[ChaseR]

I notice you've lost your cool again:

"Yer being a PUNK again, dude..."

"...hope you grow out of it, but in the meantime, leave me out of it."

"leave me out of it"...actually means you're now departing...very quickly - you're hunting for an exit - - now, right now - is this correct?? In other words, you can't take anymore..no sir, I won't let you do this - come back and debate with me - debate all that I've pointed out to you - you get back here please and answer me about how you get to be a "good cop/bad cop"...yet - you insist that I can't draw conclusions from a real cop who has retired with 30 years experience. Thanks...I'll be here waiting for you - to face the music. Jeff

[ChaseR]

Now Jade,with all of the above having been publicly stated, and all of us still enjoying this mornings debate - let's get back to answering some very easy questions Black Jade. Let me now apply the three same questions that I've asked you in the Panama threads and apply them here in this Bahamas thread.

Black Jade, Yes or No - the three questions - as applied to the Bahamas?? Thank you.

[ChaseR]

Oh, I missed your #55, let's not fail to include it now:

"You lied to me about saying that you didn't think that I was a Communist sympathizer Then you come up with some silly story about a "FR poster/policewoman"

Nope, you're outa luck here jade. I'll change my mind about you - at any time I so choose...now, get back to answering the three questions - but mind you, I want you understand that these same three questions...I'm now applying to the Bahamas. Yes or No Jade. Thank you.

[Landru]

"...what does this tell us/what do cops do - they draw criminal conclusions!!!"

I functioned as an Investigator for a while in the military, ChaseR.
Please; do not comment on matters you know not what you're talking about. Alright?

*Any* conclusion(s) drawn by those working in law enforcement are based upon their observations & the physical evidence' with circumstancial eveidence the exception to the rule.

Having said that, &, whether or not you elect to accept my POV?
Please do NOT send any *evidence* of your assertions and/or allegations against the poster in question to me privately.
I will not read it.

What I will expect you to do then, is post this *evidence* right here publically on this forum for the ACCUSED to see for herself, first.
*That's* how things are done in the United States of America, ChaseR!
We nearly lost that right with the last adminstration; moreover, it's that right which has been infringed upon [somewhat] with the new warpowers *Patriot Act* just passed...which has so very many here all worked into quite a lather?

But also when you post this *evidence* publically?
You afford all who care, a chance to view, consider, & then make a decision for themselves.
Decisions such as, whose full of shit, whose being less than honest, & who is or isn't downright delusional.

I'm very sorry to tell you I'll not permit you to involve me in a *part* of your conspiracy if it be an unjust one; but, do not despair...I'd never permit anyone to do likewise with me against you, either.

IF after all have deliberated on this matter within their heart & head it is decided, based upon fact, that you're in-fact correct?
I'd be amoung the first to so-state the error of my ways for all; & immediately issue you a public apology.

You see?
'Round here when people behave in ways that're deemed less than honorable?
It's customary that individual be shunned; but, you haven't done that a'tall with this person & I for one am compelled to wonder why?
It's as if you're afraid for us with all the behaviors of a jealous old man who has a beautiful trophy-wife.
This old man won't trust her word to be faithful but never gives her the chance to prove her faithfullness, either.
As such the old man ceases to be a husband, & becomes her jailer.

This whole episode's wellllllll below you; & I want you to know that's how I see this.

[ChaseR]

"Please; do not comment on matters you know not what you're talking about."

Incorrect assumpation. I'm partially basing my conclusions on my FR mail from a real police person who has retired after 30 years. Now tell me Landru, where did you read that I said I knew about police work?

(by the way, this is so much fun this morning - and we all are using no profanity... and everyone is happily posting - I'll continue with one of your lines each time.)

[ChaseR]

"*Any* conclusion(s) drawn by those working in law enforcement are based upon their observations..."

Nope, stop right there. I choose to rely on the decision by the retired police person. This is my choice. You have your choices and you have - your personal experience to rely on. The only person I have been relying on - as far as a police analysis - is this one retired police person. If more police persons post here about Jade, I'll consider their conclusion.

[ChaseR]

"Please do NOT send any *evidence* of your assertions and/or allegations against the poster in question to me privately. I will not read it."

(just what a good investigator would do - yes, that makes sense -- )

Now, let me ask you Landru, are you having fun still - are you enjoying this mornings debate? I hope so, I am...this is very informative for all of us. It is truely a delightful experience - after having been on the road with my small business so much last week and then yesterday, sitting in the dental chair. (glad that you Landru are, unlike our friend Mud...still enjoying all of this)

[ChaseR]

"What I will expect you to do then, is post this *evidence* right here publically on this forum for the ACCUSED to see for herself, first...*That's* how things are done in the United States of America"

That's nice, but you forgot one thing investigator Landru. You forgot - about the rights of the.....third party. (the retired police person) Unlike a good investigator, you're now - neglecting the rights of this third party - who is an FR poster - who may wish to remain - anomymous!
Isn't that correct Landru. Investigator Landru, you failed to inquire of me...you failed to ask me if I thought my friend the retired police person - would mind if I brought his/her name into this.

What do you suggest now investigator Landru?

In the meantime, I'll continue replying to your other queries.

[ChaseR]

"We nearly lost that right with the last adminstration;

Ot o...investigator Landru - is still forgetting about the rights of - the third party.

[ChaseR]

"But also when you post this *evidence* publically? You afford all who care, a chance to view, consider, & then make a decision for themselves. Decisions such as, whose full of shit, whose being less than honest, & who is or isn't downright delusional."

I see. I understand more clearly now good investigator Landru. Very nicely stated, but, what about the rights of that third party to remain anomymous?? (don't you think I should ask this person first, or did you think of that?) :)
To continue: What about the rights of this retired police person...your paragraphs continue in this post #84, but - as I go through all of your statements, I am disturbed that a self-described investigator - would not be concerned with the rights of our third party...the retired police person. (you have yet, in this post #84 of yours - to consider the rights of our retired police person???? Now, that's the type of investigator our govt. needs...yes indeed! (by the way, I'm still having fun, are you :)

[ChaseR]

I'll be right back - posting so much and having so much fun - that I almost forgot about - lunch time. I'll be back to continue going through your post #84 - have to make a sandwich and some iced tea..if you'd like to do the same, we can meet back here in 15 minutes or so. See you in a bit..and I have to admit - that all of these posts are very enjoybable....brb.

[Landru]

"...you failed to ask me if I thought my friend the retired police person - would mind if I brought his/her name into this."

There, fixed...now you can cut the crap, Clyde.

Why don't we both call her out & ask this ex-Detective to present her evidence??

Oh, & ChaseR?
Put away the bullcocka feigning concern about some nebulous, "third partie's rights."

You haven't given a tinker's damn about any one else's rights so far; least of all this little gal you're attacking?
If you're so hell-bent on setting down a smoke screen to obscure the view you'd better make a good deal more smoke than you are. lol.

~& yea; I'm having a ball.
...you're getting yourself in deeper & deeper every time you open your big mouth, ol' boy.
Keep it up; we're (you+I) nearly finished with this chapter, good buddy.
Just awaiting your final signature.
Then you'll have to morph back into MnM, eh? :o)

[ChaseR]

(well, it didn't take very long to make that sandwich Landru, I'm back early..lol - I had to settle with this peanut butter and jelly sandwich and cold milk/went to the dentist yesterday.
[Landru, I sure wish I was a rich / $$$ Jew like that treasonous scumbag Bernard Schwartz, I could afford to have expensive lunches flown in from abroad..soft goodies and special soups - from France and England..etc. - but Landru, I wouldn't trade places with him - for all the tea in China...so to speak. That particular Jew - is the treasonous Jew - who sold us out/along with fifthy scumbag Bill Clinton and Terrance McAuliffe and the rest of the co-defendents in the Loral case]...anyway, give me a few more minutes to finish this extravagent lunch, and I'll get back to your long post #84 - -

[ChaseR]

"I'm very sorry to tell you I'll not permit you to involve me in a *part* of your conspiracy..."

That's nice, but, you're the one who voluntarily posted your #84, now let me continue - I'm posting in the order that I read this thread, so bare with me - and keep enjoying our work here as we go along :)

[ChaseR]

"...state the error of my ways for all; & immediately issue you a public apology."

That's nice too..but remember good friend Landru...that every poster can draw any conclusion about any other poster - like I have done - and I'll continue to do - no matter how many folks like -or don't like it - no matter how many folks, fall by the wayside .(in other words, it matters not to me who is an acquaintance of mine here - it matters not to me how few or how many - folks ping me or respond to my pings to them. [after so many years posting here at FR, friends come and go - no big deal - for those who chose to "go" - I always say: Goodbye - and I always say Goodbye...without cursing or feeling bad - I have always said any such Goodbyes - and felt quite nice on the way out the door and quite nice and relaxed - when I come back in to the computer cyperspace zone...don't you? - and in these public forums out here in cyberspace, I don't lose any sleep over those who departs my company (my friendship)....nope, never have. I always retain my composure, my smile, my humor, and I don't frown about what other posters might say...and by the way, I'm quite pleased with my overall objectives I've successfully accomplished here. Nice huh. Keeps my face ...all smiles...thank goodness.

[Landru]

No-no...enough already.
I'm neither your wife or this little gal, so taking your bullshit's not an option for me. Nes Pas?
Are you going to present the evidence, or aren't you?
...& don't be worring about some *retired* flatfoot, either; one whose ID is known only to you?
You started this & now it's time for there to be a fitting conclusion.

Everything else isn't germane at this stage of the game & for my part, your doing so means you lose by default.
As such, I intend on dismissing anything other than said evidence as just so much blather.

More punking-off on your part will simply result in my summarily dismissing everything you have to say from this day forward.
And you overall as some kind of nut.
NOT an easy thing for me to do towards someone I've enjoyed as much as you; be that as it may, I feel I've come half-way with you & as such have been more than fair.
...and I've sure in-the-hell have shown you more respect than you have me.

Now, the ball's in your court, ChaseR.
I await your signature ending this all right here & now.
Consider your course carefully for a relationship lies in the balance.

[ChaseR]

"Round here when people behave in ways that're deemed less than honorable? - - It's customary that individual be shunned"

Again, that's nice. (by the way, who is the head police person who - with their "good cop/bad cop" abilities - decides what is honorable??

"shunned"

Out here in cyberspace, anyone who is "shunned"....or feels that they deserve being shunned - should simply switch to another thread - and forget about that displeasure experienced in any such thread that they feel shunned in.... of course, you and I are still here (but it seems we lost happy/all smiles Mud)...anyway, let me proceed on to your next paragraph... as I'm staying for awhile/I might even have another cool glass of milk - then I'll come back upstairs - as I'm really enjoying this conversation and I'm sure you're all smiles and your enjoying this conversation too. (brb, more milk)

[ChaseR]

"...by the way, who is the head police person who...... decides what is honorable??

Just had to post that again - absolutely kewl/absolutely too funny/I must pat myself on the back for that one - rofl...and more...rofl ok...brb ---let me go downstairs to get that second glass of ice cold milk.

[ChaseR]

"This whole episode's wellllllll below you;

Too me this - "whole episode" - is about a FReepers ability/right - to come to conclusions about other FReepers - in any form or fashion they so choose, as long as they don't use profane language. - And I've decided to choose to label Jade as a Chinese communist sleeper/sympathizer...you label her as you so please.
Shun or no shun...this is everyones choice. Heck, Jade might conclude that I'm a treasonous filthy Jew who is no better then filthy Bernard Schwartz. - That would not bother me - what-so-ever. That would be Jades right! .... huh. (Jade might decide to post that I'm a slimy/filthy sympathizing Jew - who is no better then Bernard Schwartz...and that my friend...- would be Jade's right.

"& I want you to know that's how I see this."

Good, glad to hear from you about this...

[ChaseR]

O.K..done with #84...sorry it took so long/you had a lot of 'stuff' in it - -let me get on to your post #92. (but wait, bad news Landru, I have to feed the cat - she missed lunch - over the past few hours, I failed to remember that - cats have rights too - - even cats - should not be neglected - and not served - their lunch....brb)