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When are we going to round up all these folks with expired student visas? Is anyone in washington paying attention?
1 posted on 11/09/2001 3:49:23 AM PST by tom paine 2
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... defense attorney John Sesini tried to persuade Circuit Judge Daniel L. Konkol to halve the $10,000 bail for Dlop, saying he has a fiancee eight months pregnant and was in the area to be closer to a brother who has lived here for six months ..."

So what? Try the guy, sentence him, send him to prison, and then deport him. Good riddance.

2 posted on 11/09/2001 3:54:58 AM PST by JoeGar
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To: tom paine 2
National ID cards would be good for them.
4 posted on 11/09/2001 4:13:21 AM PST by mbb bill
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Our government philosophy seems to be: spend billions on security and the war effort while letting the cancer spread everywhere in this country. We will never be safe until these people are out of the U.S. Apparently, political correctness will prevail until some other catastrophic event occurs.
5 posted on 11/09/2001 4:38:19 AM PST by afz400
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Yeah, and if he had a National ID, this would never have happened. RrriiIIIIIGgghhht....
6 posted on 11/09/2001 4:43:35 AM PST by Wm Bach
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The feds are watching and picking up the errant ones....

Their primary focus are the ones that appear to be terrorist related.....not all the students wiith expired visas....I believe everyone could agree that the resources should be focused there first.....

In the past, the US gov actually encouraged students to stay beyond their Visa expiration in the past by turning a blind eye to the violaters....

The real problem is being quietly and quickly resolved although a dragnet will never catch them all.......

NeverGore

8 posted on 11/09/2001 4:47:30 AM PST by nevergore
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I'm afraid he's just a Dlop in the bucket of id theft. Probably not terrorist related...
9 posted on 11/09/2001 4:52:15 AM PST by Egg
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What I want to know is ...is this guy a Muslim? Could this be the ring that provides false identification papers for terrorists?
10 posted on 11/09/2001 4:52:38 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: tom paine 2
Oh, we couldn't do that! It might offend someone.
13 posted on 11/09/2001 4:59:12 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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PUBLICATION: The Toronto Sun
DATE: 2001.11.07
SECTION: Editorial/opinion
PAGE: 16
COLUMN: Straight talk
BYLINE: Bob Macdonald

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Refugee Madness - The Liberal Way

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Now cut that out!

Can you believe it? Canada is still allowing refugee claimants to enter this country daily, many without any ID documents. They are fingerprinted, photographed - and released.

As many as 30 claimants arrive at Toronto's Pearson International airport nightly, go through the brief processing, and are released into Canadian society.

Oh yes, and they are also informed first - if they aren't already well coached - of where to go for a free ride on the backs of Canada's taxpayers, including welfare payments, housing, food, clothing, health care, transportation, education, and free legal aid.

According to the Chretien government - which aims to convert them into good Liberal voters - Canada will accept about 30,000 refugees this year. The government is pushing to increase that to 45,000 in the coming year. That's on top of their goal of 300,000 immigrants - despite our slumping economy.

Unfortunately, changes in the Immigration Act promoted by the likes of Prime Minister Chretien and Immigration Minister Elinor Caplan as "tough" are far from that.

In fact, some immigration officials complain that a new appeal procedure added to the system will drag out processing of refugee claims even more. It could add nine months to the year or so it takes to process the average case.

As it is, there are more than 27,000 refugee claimants loose somewhere in Canada who have been rejected as refugees. Yet they haven't been deported.

One is Nabil Al-Marabh, 35, who entered Canada six years ago as a refugee claimant. He is now held in the U.S. suspected of being a key operative in the Osama bin Laden network that launched attacks killing 5,000 innocent people Sept. 11.

Al-Marabh lived in Toronto's Parkdale area and is suspected as the man who obtained ID documents for the terrorists. According to Tom Godfrey, the Toronto Sun's top investigative reporter, Al-Marabh is suspected of being a member of bin Laden's "God's Brigade", a fanatical terrorist unit trained to conduct suicide attacks and bio-terrorism.

When the FBI arrested him in Chicago, he was out on bail in Canada for an earlier failed attempt to sneak into the U.S.

Another of bin Laden's terrorist gang who entered Canada as a refugee claimant and lived off Canada's taxpayers - thanks to our weak system was Ahmed Ressam.

An Algerian, he was trained at a bin Laden terrorist camp in Afghanistan, and was part of a bin Laden terrorist cell in Montreal. As such, he helped plan terrorist attacks aimed at both Canadian and U.S. targets.

Ressam was finally caught in late 1999 by U.S. border guards when he tried to drive into their country with a carload of explosives on his way to blow up passenger-packed Los Angeles airport buildings. He later testified about how Canada was targeted by terrorists because it was so easy to enter the country as a refugee claimant, be set free, and even be supported by Canada's taxpayers.

No wonder Canadian Alliance leader Stockwell Day proposed in the Commons recently that all undocumented refugee claimants be held in custody.

"We don't know what the added cost would be, but most Canadians do not put a price tag on safety and security," said the official opposition leader.

However, Caplan went wild. She angrily declared:

"We've had some dark moments in Canadian history, but the suggestion they're (the Alliance is) making about locking everybody up in penal colonies, it defies belief."

However, Day explained later that once the word went out that Canada locked up refugee claimants instead of letting them loose by the thousands to live happily off the taxpayers, perhaps terrorists and criminals might quit treating Canada as a sucker nation.

"Why should we have that reputation of being soft on people who could be potentially terrorist or involved in criminal activities?" he said.

Day was on target in his recommendation. But the Liberals have foisted a sieve-like immigration and refugee system on Canadians since 1965. And it's worked for them - giving them most of what they fondly call "the immigrant vote."

The only thing is: ruthless terrorists like bin Laden love it too. To them, it still says: Welcome to Canada, sucker nation of the world.

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Until we close our border we are headed for self destruction.

23 posted on 11/09/2001 5:24:44 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: tom paine 2
When are we going to round up all these folks with expired student visas? Is anyone in washington paying attention?

Exactly what I have been saying for the last 8 years!

26 posted on 11/09/2001 5:33:16 AM PST by Dustbunny
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What I don't understand is giving these ppl even a attempt at posting bail. They have no credibility having already broken their visa agreements. So why would ANYONE expect them to return back to court after posting a bail???
27 posted on 11/09/2001 5:50:53 AM PST by BobWNY
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To: ipaq2000; Lent; veronica; Sabramerican; beowolf; Nachum; BenF; monkeyshine; angelo...
Expired student visa illegal alien criminal identity theft fraud alert! Look for more illegal alien scams rackets and criminality as the economy heads downward.
29 posted on 11/09/2001 6:50:25 AM PST by dennisw
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now if we could just get the voter ID law passed, this guy could vote 18 times...
31 posted on 11/09/2001 6:52:43 AM PST by the crow
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To: tom paine 2
NUKE him !!
34 posted on 11/09/2001 8:15:47 AM PST by timestax
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Pape T. Dlop was posing as a San Diego man when he was arrested Oct. 22 at Southridge Mall for using phony identification cards to purchase jewelry. Authorities subsequently learned that he had earlier purchased jewelry in Brookfield using bogus identification.

Heck, if my parents named me Pape Dlop, I'd be looking for another identity, too.

38 posted on 11/09/2001 11:58:29 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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