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FBI Detains 3 Trenton Men - 1 carried letters in Ziploc bag
New York Daily News ^ | November 4, 2001 | PAUL H.B. SHIN in New York and BOB PORT in Washington

Posted on 11/04/2001 2:02:44 AM PST by sarcasm

he FBI has detained three Trenton-area men — one of whom was seen carrying a plastic bag holding several letters — and has searched two apartments in its probe of anthrax attacks, authorities said yesterday.

The apartments are near the post office thought to be the sole source of the nation's anthrax contamination.

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However, the FBI said it had found no direct link between the anthrax poisonings and the apartment raids, the latest of which took place Friday.

"At this point, we have no information that links the two searches," FBI spokeswoman Sandra Carroll said yesterday. "I can't be more specific or elaborate beyond that."

Neighbors said that one of the apartments had been under surveillance for several days. And one of the neighbors said he called police Monday to report a series of suspicious circumstances.

The neighbor, who asked not to be identified, told The Associated Press he saw one of the men now in federal custody carrying a "Ziploc bag" with the letters. He said the man was holding it away from his body and "placed it real slow" onto the passenger seat of his car.

The neighbor said FBI agents questioned him hours after he called Trenton police. He said the agents already knew the suspect's name and where he lived, and they asked questions about his routine.

Two of the men were detained Monday and the third was picked up Friday.

Carroll declined to detail Friday's search, except to say agents targeted the Trenton apartment. She had no details about the other apartment search.

"It was while we were conducting the anthrax investigation that we obtained this information," she said.

Not Charged

Carroll said there were other occupants at the apartment, but they were not detained. Some witnesses reported that four Middle Eastern men lived there. Neighbors said one was the brother of the man in detention.

"Until we know something more definitively, it would be premature to jump to any conclusions," Carroll said.

The man taken into custody Friday was not charged by the FBI, but he was turned over to the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

In Washington yesterday, a suspicious, handwritten envelope delivered to the Treasury Department was isolated for testing.

Michele Davis, a Treasury spokeswoman, said the letter was found by workers sorting through a three-week backlog of mail. The address was handwritten and the letter bore the same Trenton postmark as anthrax-tainted letters sent to Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D-S.D.), NBC news anchor Tom Brokaw and the New York Post.

President Bush sought yesterday to calm a nation increasingly jittery about the anthrax outbreak, which he called a "second wave of terrorist attacks upon our country."

In his weekly radio address, the President praised the efforts of public officials to fight the disease, but he acknowledged the FBI still doesn't know who sent the deadly germs.

He warned people to be careful opening mail as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention continued to hunt for clues in the death of a New York hospital worker.

"Our folks have pretty much been working around the clock," a CDC spokesman said.

Bush previously left updating the public on the anthrax outbreak mainly to cabinet members and Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge.

Yesterday's radio address appeared to be a response to concerns about whether the administration was acting aggressively enough.

"We are working to protect people based on the best information available," the President said. "And as we deal with this new threat, we are learning new information every day."

Bush promised to "share the confirmed and credible information we have" with the public, but there was little of that available yesterday.

* * *

Frightening Trail of Attacks

President Bush called the anthrax attacks a "second wave of terrorism," but no new cases were identified yesterday.

Contracted Anthrax:

Precautions:


Original Publication Date: 11/4/01


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I always carry my outgoing mail in a ziploc bag - nothing odd here.
1 posted on 11/04/2001 2:02:44 AM PST by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
hahaha

However, the FBI said it had found no direct link between the anthrax poisonings and the apartment raids, the latest of which took place Friday.

"At this point, we have no information that links the two searches," FBI spokeswoman Sandra Carroll said yesterday. "I can't be more specific or elaborate beyond that."

Um....that's a little hard to believe, isn't it? Shouldn't the FBI know why they raided an apartment? Or is the 'official reason' just an immigration raid?

2 posted on 11/04/2001 2:09:39 AM PST by piasa
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To: sarcasm
For all the noise the leftist press made of FBI theories that 'right wing extremist groups' were behind the anthrax attacks, the FBI seems to be rounding up quite a few Muslims and damn few right wingers in their search for the culprits.

Gee, you don't suppose the leftist press lied to us, do you? Nah, couldn't be. Left wingers always tell the truth.

3 posted on 11/04/2001 2:31:57 AM PST by Monitor
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To: Monitor
I think the leftistmainstreammedia were fed a bit of disinformation by "well-placed sources" to let the Achmeds think we didn't know what we were doing and relax a bit. I have always thought it was the Al-Qeada because our right wingnuts would have 1) targeted the ACLU and other big Jewish organizations first and 2) taken responsibility for the acts.
4 posted on 11/04/2001 2:46:51 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: sarcasm
And one of the neighbors said he called police Monday to report a series of suspicious circumstances.
The neighbor, who asked not to be identified, told The Associated Press he saw one of the men now in federal custody carrying a "Ziploc bag" with the letters. He said the man was holding it away from his body and "placed it real slow" onto the passenger seat of his car.
The neighbor said FBI agents questioned him hours after he called Trenton police. He said the agents already knew the suspect's name and where he lived, and they asked questions about his routine.

It's impossible to tell for sure from the way this is written, but it reads to me as though there may be another set of letters mailed last weekend or last Monday.

This says the FBI were there to question the neighbor just hours after he notified police. That, plus the fact that they were already onto these suspects, is good news to me. Maybe they're not really as lost they'd like us to believe...

5 posted on 11/04/2001 2:55:16 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: *Anthrax_Scare_List; aristeides
FYI
6 posted on 11/04/2001 2:57:43 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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BTW, where's that ziplock bag?
7 posted on 11/04/2001 3:00:02 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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Why aren't we rounding the towel heads up and shipping them back to whereever they came from?
8 posted on 11/04/2001 3:00:42 AM PST by tom paine 2
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To: Lion's Cub
Good catch. It could be he waited to call it in, but probably not.
9 posted on 11/04/2001 3:04:14 AM PST by piasa
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To: Lion's Cub; bvw; gumbo; OldFriend
Thanks for the flag. Is this the apartment on No. Olden Ave. that the FBI raided on Friday?
10 posted on 11/04/2001 3:09:05 AM PST by aristeides
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To: piasa
So far as the "no direct connection" I've noticed a lot of the media repeats previous information
to fluff up their articles even when it contradicts the new "news". For example, weeks ago an
article said both that someone's condition had been downgraded and that they were also
responding well to antibiotics...the latter of which I believe was the older news.

I'm sure HOPING there is a direct connection...I don't want another multi-year Unibomber wait.

Has anyone heard anything about the conditions of the other surviving victims of inhalation anthrax?

11 posted on 11/04/2001 3:09:47 AM PST by DaughterofEve
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To: sarcasm
Members of midwestern right-wing organizations are taughht from childhood to carry their mail in ziplock bags-has something to do with Revelations, I think.

No worry here-let's go to the mall.

12 posted on 11/04/2001 3:11:50 AM PST by Jim Noble
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Michele Davis, a Treasury spokeswoman, said the letter was found by workers sorting through a three-week backlog of mail. The address was handwritten and the letter bore the same Trenton postmark as anthrax-tainted letters sent to Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D-S.D.), NBC news anchor Tom Brokaw and the New York Post.

Three-week backlog. I wonder if that means it was postmarked the same day as the Daschle letter -- Oct. 9th that was, wasn't it? That would presumably mean it has the same dangerous form of anthrax. I wonder how many other letters they mailed that day.

13 posted on 11/04/2001 3:12:34 AM PST by aristeides
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To: tom paine 2
"Why aren't we rounding the towel heads up and shipping them back to whereever they came from?"

Good point! Ask the liberals why. We dont want to hurt anyones feelings!!Thats the liberal response. Only when their own dumb asses are in trouble do they say "Do something".

And as far as I'm concerned, anyone detained for questioning about terrorism should NOT have the protection of the fifth amendment. Additionally, torture should be allowed to obtain information when national interests are at stake!!

14 posted on 11/04/2001 3:15:21 AM PST by dokmad
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To: sarcasm; Marine Inspector
I always carry my outgoing mail in a ziploc bag - nothing odd here.

Yeah me too. The only problem there is that I mailed my baloney sandwich!!

The man taken into custody Friday was not charged by the FBI, but he was turned over to the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

I wonder where this is going to lead us?

15 posted on 11/04/2001 3:24:48 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: sarcasm
Here's a link to Friday's Trenton Times story about Friday's raid on the apartment on No. Olden Ave. in Trenton: Feds raid apartment [wearing HazMat suits - more details than CNN].
16 posted on 11/04/2001 3:27:13 AM PST by aristeides
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To: dokmad
And as far as I'm concerned, anyone detained for questioning about terrorism should NOT have the protection of the fifth amendment. Additionally, torture should be allowed to obtain information when national interests are at stake!!


Now, now. Don't you realize the fallout will travel around the world and kill all the babies. Wait.. That was the other canned liberal response I've been collecting. Just a minute, I'll find it...This is not a war on Islam....No, thats not it..Bear with me...We have not declared...F$%k! Just wait, they will be along to explain why we can't act to protect ourselves.

17 posted on 11/04/2001 3:31:10 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: sarcasm
Is mailing a letter sufficient grounds for law enforcement to ask a middle eastern man if he is a citizen or on a visa? In today's climate is there probable cause? How about in Trenton, NJ. Would they have to show their proofs? Honestly asking.
18 posted on 11/04/2001 3:40:44 AM PST by rebdov
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To: aristeides
WOW! Thanks for the ping. I'd missed this one!
19 posted on 11/04/2001 3:56:07 AM PST by gumbo
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To: aristeides
Is this the apartment on No. Olden Ave. that the FBI raided on Friday?

I can't tell for sure, but I believe it's the same apartment building or complex. It sounds to me that they became aware of the second apartment after further investigating the one they raided on Friday. It sounds like there may have been too many in this cell to be in one apartment, so they had at least two. It could also be that what we are seeing is 2 apartments of men working together but living separately based on the identity of their particular terrorist group.

20 posted on 11/04/2001 4:02:15 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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