Posted on 10/30/2001 2:04:59 AM PST by Ada Coddington
Right out of the gate lew crockwell hits his stride. He missed an important issue, it also apparently gives maggots like him the opportunity to appear even more foolish in their writing.
"Sounds like Lew's columnists have been reading freerepublic.com. Nothing's too bloody."
And you match him stride for stride. Nothing's beneath you.
My reaction to this is that Lew could have written the same column about World War II. Perhaps he would have, too. But most of those who fought in that war felt that, in spite of everything, it was worthwhile. Perhaps the martial spirit will again make problems for us someday, as it has in the past. But if we aren't willing to defend ourselves we are through as a nation. History has seen the ruins of successful, wealthy, refined trading communities that were incapable of defending themselves. I wouldn't want the US to be among them.
Those in favor of war are sometimes too quick to make charges of treason or cowardice against those who oppose their policies. If we're looking for an equivalent behavior to this in pacifist circles, it would be calling those who disagree with them murderers. There are two ways of "waving the bloody shirt." Rockwell would gain credibility condemning the one sort, if he didn't indulge in the other.
My reaction to this is that Lew could have written the same column about World War II. Perhaps he would have, too. But most of those who fought in that war felt that, in spite of everything, it was worthwhile. Perhaps the martial spirit will again make problems for us someday, as it has in the past. But if we aren't willing to defend ourselves we are through as a nation. History has seen the ruins of successful, wealthy, refined trading communities that were incapable of defending themselves. I wouldn't want the US to be among them.
Those in favor of war are sometimes too quick to make charges of treason or cowardice against those who oppose their policies. If we're looking for an equivalent behavior to this in pacifist circles, it would be calling those who disagree with them murderers. There are two ways of "waving the bloody shirt." Rockwell would gain credibility condemning the one sort, if he didn't indulge in the other.
Brigadier
I could have sworn that Osama and his insane religious buds "got us into this mess in the first place".
Somebody needs to tell good ol' Lew that democracies generally have a real hard time with coherent longterm foreign policies, while dynastic Islamic dictatorships have no trouble with them at all.
Shut your piehole, Rockwell.
But the US Government is not defending us. If anything they are making future attacks more likely (does anyone remember Lockerbie?)
Now they have even admitted that the capture of bin Laden and his cronies is not that likely. Hang on, wasn't that a key feature of the war sales pitch? So far the US military have relentlessly bombarded a wretchedly poor country (hey! don't like the Nazis? bomb the Warsaw Ghetto!) and have yet to liquidate or capture a single terrorist.
There you guys go again: confusing explanation with justification.
Let's try a simple analogy. I take my wife on a drive to the other side of town. I take a short cut and run out of gas right in the middle of the most dangerous part of the city. We are quickly surrounded by youths who, despite looking like millionaire rappers, extract us from our vehicle, rough us up and steal all of our possessions.
When the ordeal is over, my wife turns to me and refers to the mess into which I have got us. I correct her by pointing out, freeper-style, that it was in fact the local youths who got us into this mess. She looks at me as though I have completely lost my mind. End of story.
"On September 11th, some Arab muslims murdered thousands of wholly innocent people and destroyed billions of dollars worth of property. We're not really sure who was behind it, and we haven't yet harmed a hair on the heads of those we think were behind it. BUT, DAMMIT, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING! LOOK AT THAT FIREBALL! THINK OF THOSE MOURNING FAMILIES! WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING! ANYWAY, AFGHAN TODDLERS DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TO LIVE FOR ANYWAY! WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING! LET'S ROLL!"
That would be wrong. Good thing no-one is doing it.
The Taliban is behind who we know is behind it, and we've harmed lots of Taliban hairs.
Appreciate your interest in the research.
No, bomb military targets. Oh, wait, that's what we're doing. Of course, it would be more moral to bomb military targets in a rich country rather than in a poor country, but they haven't hidden any bunkers in Manhatten. Oh, wait, but they did bomb Manhatten.
Your first mistake...
Delete above. Insert following:
"After we manage to arrive home, said youths sneak in the backyard, pour gas on our children, and burn them alive. My wife turns to me, fingering a butcher knife, and says 'Find them and bring them here to me."
No, no, no problem, that's what we're here for. ---Analogy Correction Central
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