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I bought this book after reading a FR thread from Oct 6. It references an article from Christiainty Today. This book, and another by Bay Ye'or are reviewed at amazon.com. (I was unable to obtain the second book through Amazon.)

The more I read about Islam, the lower my opinion of it goes.

ML/NJ

1 posted on 10/27/2001 6:33:03 AM PDT by ml/nj
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ISLAM is the scourge of the earth. It is a counterfeit to worshiping the true God

God has a plan for his creation and he will deal with Islam shortly.
2 posted on 10/27/2001 6:55:26 AM PDT by freeman_of_mx
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The more I read about Islam, the lower my opinion of it goes.

Assassins of Satan from day 1. They have never been content to live along side Christian or Jews without killing them.

5 posted on 10/27/2001 7:02:55 AM PDT by swampfox98
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Returning Medina is an interesting concept. It would send the already crazed Muslims right over the edge.

The customer reviews on Amazon are enlightening in that they paint a clearer picture of what we are up against. Their prophet, Moewhatshisname, was clearly evil and probably psychotic.

6 posted on 10/27/2001 7:07:50 AM PDT by wife-mom
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BIG BUMP!


8 posted on 10/27/2001 7:25:44 AM PDT by lavaroise
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Lets not.
11 posted on 10/27/2001 7:29:04 AM PDT by bert
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To: ml/nj; veronica; beowolf; Sabramerican; Lent; angelo; boston_liberty; EaglesUpForever; Mr. Snrub...
Excellent post and book. Islam got it's start in blood, in Jihad, in expansionism, in forced conversions, in mass killing of Jews, in breaking treaties and is still there 1500 years later.
14 posted on 10/27/2001 7:36:57 AM PDT by dennisw
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There is something you should remember about all this hate you are spreading - what goes around comes around.
22 posted on 10/27/2001 7:55:57 AM PDT by Who is George Salt?
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I bought this book after reading a FR thread from Oct 6. It references an article from Christiainty Today. This book, and another by Bay Ye'or are reviewed at amazon.com. (I was unable to obtain the second book through Amazon.)

I have both books. The second, The Decline of Eastern Christianity under Islam(1996) is even more in depth and an eye-opener as to how Islam destroyed whole Eastern Christian communities. Recommend the book highly.

28 posted on 10/27/2001 8:00:34 AM PDT by Lent
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Bump for book references.
32 posted on 10/27/2001 8:03:21 AM PDT by FrogMom
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Another really good book, which I recommend regularly, is Geraldine Brook's "Nine Parts of Desire," which focuses on women under Islam. So much of Islam as we perceive and know it is founded on a perverse and obsessive sexuality.

I only started reading from the Koran, the Al-Hadish and about the life of the prophet this past month and a half. Before, I just thought of Islam as a variation of Judaism (the dietary laws, the language, the monotheism...).

Now, I am quite alarmed at this thing called Islam. Just a clear reading gives indications of a cult of murder, hate, and perversion. It would hearten me tremendously if the erstwhile "moderates" would appear in vocal force to support our country and explain why Islam itself is not a threat to us.

But it is NOT HAPPENING. One day, I hear from some moderate Imam, then the next day he is out of the country giving crazy statements about the culpability of Jews!

It is not reasonable to expect that Muslims will be supportive of the US at the expense of seeming disloyal to their faith in the eyes of other Muslims. I just don't belive that we will ever see an outpouring of support from these ersatz "moderates."

Wonder if Bush sees this, too, and is just being canny?

Either moderates are ineffectual, or are quietly sympathetic to the terrorists.

49 posted on 10/27/2001 8:27:29 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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there's nothing to be gained by preaching hate. it just lowers us to the taliban level.
59 posted on 10/27/2001 8:41:32 AM PDT by ken21
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Forget all this BIBLE/KORAN argument
The real deal is O I L

Use our coal drill in Alaska and off shore and tell the Middle East SO LONG
Arabs Turks Jews Persians fight it out and call us when it is over but the phones may be busy
62 posted on 10/27/2001 8:50:17 AM PDT by uncbob
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BUMP
65 posted on 10/27/2001 8:56:56 AM PDT by Fiddlstix
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Medina, Saudi Arabia
83 posted on 10/27/2001 9:42:41 AM PDT by American Preservative
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Return Medina to the Jews? Fine, but let's get our priorities straight. First we replace the kaaba in Mecca with a hog slaughterhouse, a sewage treatment plant, a dog cemetary, a zoo, and garbage dump.

They already harbor a fanatical hatred of the USA, so what harm could it do? Maybe they'll think allah left town, relax, and get back to goat husbandry or whatever.

96 posted on 10/27/2001 2:18:31 PM PDT by watchin
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BUMP
97 posted on 10/27/2001 2:27:39 PM PDT by fella
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Really gives you an impression of Muhammed being such a "peaceful kind of man". He was a freaking militant. Of course, I know I will be told a million more times about Islam meaning "peace". Yep, about as peaceful as Muhammed, huh??
100 posted on 10/27/2001 2:39:28 PM PDT by MoJo2001
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All true believers are required, if they can afford it, to visit the sacred hole at Medina and the other one at Mecca. They are very beautiful holes that represent all that is great about our religon - nillism.
145 posted on 10/28/2001 6:42:22 PM PST by TheHound
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Medina was called Yatrib then and the Jewish Rabbis there prophesied from the Torah about a messenger for the Arabs long before the Mohammed was born, so they put up no resistance. Shortly after that they joined with Mohammed in protecting the Najran Christians of the Southwest who had nearly been exterminated by the Jewish Hamyarite kings of Yemen.
153 posted on 12/06/2001 3:09:25 AM PST by Patria One
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I don’t know the source of these information, however I can write a book and tell that Jesus Christ was a killer and psychotic and his mother was a prostitute and that he has several complexes in his mind which made him pretend to be God’s son and that the Jews discovered his conspiracy and killed him on the cross. I could write a book and prove that there is not even a single evidence on the existence of Jesus, I could write what ever I want and I will find people who will be easily deceived by my false information. You have to be more rational than that, what will make prophet mohammed hate the Jews? What will make him wage a war against them and drive them out of the Arabian peninsula? Is that because they didn’t follow him, this entirely false because there is an important rule in Islam which says that there is no compulsion in religion and that it must come from the heart.
What I mean that Islam has its enemies which are trying to disfigure its reputation, for example your comments on the jews of Elmadina you didn’t mention the causes of their expelling from that city and that is because they tried to harass a Muslim woman who came to their market for buying some goods and that when she asked for help one of the Muslim youth rushed to help her but he was killed and in response to that prophet muhammed realized that those tribes will be a source of disruption in his newly formed Islamic community then he ordered their departure, this is in conjunction to their previous attempts to launch a civil war between the two main people of el madina (ElAous) and (Elkhazrag).
The next event when the prophet mohammed ordered to kill their men and to capture their wives and children occurred for a different tribe and for different reason which is…..
When prophet mohammed came to Elmadina for the first time, he make an alliance with the jews. Soon after the jews realized that this prophet was not there expected one, so they turned their faces to him by setting conspiracies to disrupt the newly formed Islamic state and by making contacts with Meka in order to arrange for war against Islam which was commonly known as the war of the Trench. When the infidels of Meka asked the Jews whether their religion is better or Islam, the Jews answered wrongly on purpose that the pagan religion of Meka is better and there is several jewish historian who admit this mistake because Muslims were worshipping God but the people of Meka were worshipping only stone statues.
When the Meka army besieged the Muslims in Elmadina, prophet Mohammed expected that the jews will remain neutral but unfortunately there were news coming to him that several jews youth were attacking the houses of women and that the jews were making arrangements to attack Muslims from their rear which proved true.
After the defeat of the Meka army prophet mohammed make a trial for those jews and they were found guilty and tried according to their Bible by killing all the men and taking their property. Some of you will find this decision is cruel but if you imagined the extremely serious situation which the jews put the Muslim in, you will not be so affectioned because the whole Islamic cause was threatened by both the Meka who were determined to erase and revenge from the Muslims who repeatedly defeated them. The jews betrayed Muslims in meka and that is why they were dismissed from the Arabian peninsula. This is the whole true story.
islam is the most tolerant religion in the earth becase we are the single religion which respect judaism, and christianity and consider their books sacred, we consider islam is the continuation to christianity and jews.


157 posted on 07/26/2005 4:12:12 AM PDT by kotbmohammed (Kotbmohammed)
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