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THERE IS NO REASON TO STAY BACK!
USC ^ | none listed | Ibn Mardhiyah

Posted on 10/26/2001 5:46:57 AM PDT by harpseal

The following id for informational purposes. I am angry that this has as its source a place within the United States of America. I have already notified the FBI tip site.

THERE IS NO REASON TO STAY BACK!

Ibn Mardhiyah

  Please don't think I'm being proud or arrogant in anyway,...but when I read any email about someone who calls himself a Muslim and says: that we should organize and strengthen ourselves before we go to war...", IT MAKES ME SICK. I know all sorts of MUNAFIQEEN who disbelieve in Jihaad Fi Sabeelillah because they say that we Muslims need to be united and have a strong army,..etc....BS.... If I recall, when the Sahaba armies who were insignificant next to the massive armies of Rome and Persia, marched out, they weren't thinking, "oh man. we are like totally out manned and outgunned...how are we going to win against Rome or Persia..?" No. All they said was hasbunallaahu wa'na'mal wakeel and they WENT. To compare, imagine a small country like Kuwait or Yemen, if, it had in the 1980's or even now, decided to take on USA and USSR at the SAME TIME. man you'd have the whole world laughing their heads off at that small country, and 99.99% of the world would have surely thought that such a small country fighting against the two Superpowers must be suicidal. But that's exactly what the world thought 1400 years ago as they looked [down] upon the scraggly Muslim armies crawling out of teh desert with armed with little more than kitchen knives. UH GEE. GUESS WHO WON. 

    It happened again many times thereafter,...small army of Believers up against a massive horde of Kuffar. It happened at 'Ayn Jalut when SayfudDeen Qutuz went against the might of the Mongol barbarians, it happened again when Commander Alp Arsalan led a mujahid force of only 15,000 [who were just returning exhausted from a previous battle], up against a fresh army of 600,000 Romans who in all their arrogance thought that the sheer ration of 40 kuffar to 1 Muslim would surely crush Alp Arsalan and his rag-tag army. yea yea yea...guess who won.... 

    It happenned again in Afghanistan when the mujahideen, lightly armed, went up against the might of the Soviet Empire. It happenned again when Commander basayev led a force of only 1,500 Mujahideen and surrounded Grozny + defeated a much larger and better equipped federal force of 10,000 Russian soldiers back in the 94-96 Chechen War. One thing Muslims have to break free from is the poisonous thinking that "OH MAN! We Muslims have nothing! How are we going to go up against USA, Israel, India, Russia,..[kuffar are STILL kuffar by any other name] when we Muslims have nobody and no weapons and they have everything!!..." I become angry, for the sake of Allah, when someone says such a thing and still claims to be a Muslim. On the situation of Israel, the Israelis are always gloating over their past "victories" over the "Muslims" and the "six arab armies"....man get a grip. Those "Muslims" who fought against the illegal state of israel from 1947-to present weren't fighting for Allah's sake. They were fighting for nationalism. That's why Shk. Azzam al-Philistini who was fighting alongside other Palestinians against the Israelis in the 1960's, left that fight, when he saw it was clearly about nationalism. Two things led him to this conclusion, two very clear proofs: 1) he asked a Philistini guerilla: "Where is the religion in this fight?" The Philistini man laughed and said there is no religion in this fight. 2) Shk. Azzam recalled that in the Philistini front-line camp, out of so many fighters, he could count on his hand the number of fighters that used to pray the five prayers regularly. As we all know, one who doesn't pray salah is out of the fold of Islam. So I tell these Israelis that "You think you're so invincible because you shattered a couple of Muslim [nationalist] armies? Wait till the REAL mujahideen arrive from Khurasan. the ones that will be carrying the black flags of war. Wait till they come, and they fight under the command of Isa ibn Maryam. Wait until the Holy city of Madinah is empty because all the believers in that city will have left, to go north to Philistine to join Ibne Maryam...wait until then, you cowardly kuffar...then you will see who is invincible." Khurasan is the area that includes Afghanistan, the Caucasus [i.e. Chechnya and associated area] parts of the Hindukush mountains, where Kashmir is, and also parts of easternmost Iran. The army of that carries the black flags from this region will be unstoppable, no matter how many Tomahawks, Patriots, F-22's or Stealth bombers are thrown against them by USA and associated kuffar allies. 

    This is to tell all my true Mu'min akh wal ukht fe kulli makan, that the Mujahideen fight with their biggest weapon, which is Iman. thereby they are able to overcome ANY obstacle and put fear into the hearts of the Disbelievers. Thus, when the Emperor of Iran asked the Chinese Emperor for reinforcements and help against the advancing Sahaba armies, the Chinese Emperor replied: "How can i help you against a people who could move the mountains if they wanted to." And thus the Chinese Emperor made a wise decision and did not tangle with the Sahaba mujahideen, else they might have overran the Chinese Empire itself. And Allah knows best. This is to tell my true mu'min brothers and sisters that if you have real Iman, and want to prove yourself to ALLAH, and not just anyone else, you will get up and go. Go to Sheeshaan. Or kashmir, Phillipines, Kazakhstan, Afghanistan, Ogaden, Eritrea, Philistine, or even Bosnia-Kosova area [yes they are STILL fighting over there]. Do not give me some lousy excuse like "Oh I have to finish University, or I have to support my family or I have to run my business, or I don't wanna lose my job!" these excuses might fool people but they cannot fool Allah. In Surah at Taubah, ayah 24, Allah has clearly said that IF you place priority on your parents, your families, your homes, and your businesses OVER Allah + Rasul + Jihad , then you are a fasiq [evil-doer]. Allah says in Surah At-taubah again that: "...those who Believe in Allah and yaum al-Qiyamah would never seek ANY excuse to stay back from fighting. Only those who deisbelieve or those who doubt would ask an excuse. And so in their doubts they sway to and fro." 

    If you tell me you are in University so you can get a good education so you can get a good job OR so that you can use your skills better to serve the Ummah, then let it be known that Allah has said: "O ye who Believe, shall i guide ye to a BUSINESS [tijarah] that shall save ye from a painful torment? That you believe in Allah and His rasul and fight in the way of Allah with your wealth and your lives. THAT IS BETTER FOR YE, IF YE BUT KNEW." Thus Allah has laid out which type of business is best. If you are someone who believes in that weak Hadith of jihad an-nafs supposedly being superior to Jihad -Al-Qital, then you should know that this hadith is most certainly false, as it contradicts the Quran and Saheeh Hadith. Example: Allah says in Surah an-Nisa:95-96 that "...those who fight with their wealth and their lives out on the battlefield are higher in rank than those believers who sit at home. Unto both group He has promised a good reward, but a higher rank to those who fight.." Notice Allah is not talking about the munafiqeen here, who sit at home anyways. He s talking about those Believers who are at home, managing their affairs. Also, the Rasul was asked which type of Jihad was best, and he replied: "..In that in which your blood is spilt and your horses legs are cut." There are many more ayat and hadith which state the superiority of Jihad al-Qatal over all else. 

    You brothers and sisters should also know that Allah has revealed the ayah in Surah at-taubah that: "March forth whether light or heavy." The Sahaba clearly understood this ayah to mean that you go whether you are young or old, rich or poor, weak or strong, etc. Such that Abu Talha told his sons to help him with his armor in preparation for battle. His sons replied: "Allah have Mercy on ye! You fought alongside the Rasulallah, then ye fought under the khalifat of Abu Bakr, and then under Umar. Now let us fight for ye, as you are very old." Upon hearing this, Abu Talha recited the ayah from Surah At-taubah: "March forth whether light or heavy." And so he went. Shk. Azzam recorded ten different meanings of this ayah [all meanings were covered by this comprehensive and short ayah], and amongst those meanings was: "Poor or Rich, Young or Old, married or unmarried, mounted or un-mounted, near or far..." and many more. In short, Allah has given no excuse for us to stay back, except those who truly are too poor. In today's time, living here in North America, I doubt there is even a SINGLE able-bodied muslim who is unable to work for a few months to save up for the airline ticket and other expenses. Man, lemme tell you, if you are here in North America, there is no way you can claim you are too poor to march out. No way. If you say that you are here in this land to make Dawah to non-muslims, then let me ask ye: "How long will you keep doing "Dawah"? Until they accept Islam? Your responsibility is to prepare to leave for Jihad, and while you are doing that, simply tell the non-Muslims about Islam. Who says you have to spend "x" amount of years spreading dawah? Do you think these people have never heard about Islam? Sure they have. they all watch the news, listen to the radio or read the newspapers or magazines. They KNOW that Islam is A religion. After that, its their responsibility to investigate further. Sure, we Muslims must also help by giving them correct information, but we do not make it our life-long duty. 

    If you are amongst those that say: "the time is not right for fighting! the Rasul himself spent 13 years giving dawah before being given the order to fight...", then you brothers should know that the Rasul spent those years spreading dawah before Allah ALLOWED him and the Muslims to fight back. that was BEFORE Islam was revealed in its totality. You cannot apply that same example today for surely Islam has been totally revealed AND Allah has als stated that Jihad is fard on us, just the same way that Saum or Salah are fard on us. See surah al-Baqarah:216 where Allah says : "Kutayba 'alaykumul Qital..." This means clearly that "Fighting has been written for you.." These are the VERY SAME words that Allah uses to describe the farai'id of salah or saum, as he has said :"...kutayba alaykumus'siyaam.." O ye Muslims, go look in the Quran for yourselves. It is there to be read and UNDERSTOOD with a firm heart, and NOT to be used as mere shelf decoration. If you are amongst those that say that "My parents won't give me permission." and then you cite that all-too famous incident where the Sahabi who wanted to go for Jihad was turned back the Rasulallah and told to go serve his parents... then my brothers, you should know that the 'ulama have stated that Jihad at that point was Fard el'Kifayah. When Jihad became fard'al'Ayn, there was another incident which the muslims ignore, where a Sahabi went to tell the rasul he was going for Jihad. The rasul told him to go serve his parents. the Sahabi thereby refused the Rasulallah right to his face and said: "NO. By Him who has sent you with the Truth, i will fight for the sake of Allah and leave my parents." The Rasulallah did not disapprove, and further said: "You know best." This was when Jihad became fard el-'ayn on the muslims, like it is now. And what's more, is that Allah has clearly said that if ye place your "abna-akum", meaning your fathers, which also signifies your parents, if ye place them above Jihad, then you are a fasiq. Just as the Rasulallah said: "None of ye truly believes until Allah and His Messenger are dearer to him then all else [including your parents]."

     Furthermore, let me ask ye: If you are an able swimmer and one day you and your parents were walking along a riverside or on the beach, and out in the water you saw a Muslim brother with his child and they were drowning. What would ye do? Any sensible Muslim would immediately swim to the rescue of his Muslim brother. But what if your parents said "No do not go to save him." Would you obey your parents then, and let them take a hand in the death of your own Muslim brother and his child? Surely if you did not go into the water to save your Muslim brother then you have a disease in your heart and yaum-al-Qiyamah you will be severely questioned about your failure to act. Anybody can go and get training on how to pick up a gun and shoot. And if you can shoot a kafir who is oppressing your brethren in the Muslim lands, then may Allah bless ye, and accept ye from amongst the Shuhadah. And as Allah has said in 4:69- "The prophets, the martyrs, the righteous ones...what an excellent company are they!" If you say that you need to improve ourselves first before we go out to fight, then you should know that this reasoning too, is false and from Shaytan. During fath-e-Makkah, the Rasul conquered the city with 10,000 Sahabi, all without bloodshed. Within three days, that number had swelled to 12,000 by the large influx of kuffar who reverted to Islam. Then, the Rasul immediately marched out for Hunayn with this force of 12,000 men. Amongst those 2,000 new Muslims, some had been Muslims for only a few hours when they joined the march. These new Muslims didnt even have time to learn all the basics of Islam, or to make taharah, or to straighten their prayer lines, or even to get rid of old jahiliyyah habits. Yet the Rasulallah ordered them to march out along with all the other Muslims. Now tell me this: Did these new Muslims have the time to "improve" themselves to the "point of inner perfection" before they went for Jihad? No they didn't. By the way, anyone who truly goes for Jihad with full belief in Allah, and does NOT turn his back on the battlefield when the bullets are raining down all around him, then such a person has successfully fought the TRUE Jihad-al-Nafs. For its very easy to fight the so called Jihad an-nafs at home, when you feel secure. But what will you do on the battlefield when the war flames are raging fierce, when death is coming at ye from all directions, when the Angels are storming through the enemy ranks, when your beloved brother who fought by your side is killed in a hail of bullets, what will you do when the door in the sky opens up to jannatul Firdaus and all the souls of the Shuhadaa walk through it? What will you do then? In the end, each and every soul is responsible for him or herself. What answer do ye have to those oppressed Muslim men and women and children who cry out to Allah. they ask themselves, where are the Muslims? Why doesn't anyone care? What will ye tell them, that "...we're all busy spending time with our families, or we're studying at Universities for "the benefit of the Ummah"...or that we are doing Jihad al-nafs?" Put yourself in their place. But you cannot. Not until you've seen your home destroyed, seen your mothers or sisters or wives being raped, or see your father shot to death in front of his baby children. Not until you live your life in confusion, surrounded by war, not knowing if you will have anything to eat tomorrow morning, or if you will be caught and killed tonight. Until then you, nor I, will never know what the oppressed ones of this Ummah feel. 

    Take a good long hard look at the Ummah and where you stand. You have a responsibility to yourself and to your family to save yourselves from Jahannam. As Allah has said in the Quran: "Oh ye who Believe! Save yourselves and your families from a Fire whose fuel is men and stones..." The Mujahid who gets dirty with the dust of jihad in the way of Allah cannot have any of his body enter the fire. But do not be like that "mujahid" who fought for the sake of peoples' honor and thus was killed and then on yaum al Qiyamah will be thrown into Hell. And surely there are the Shuhadah, may Allah accept them, who have the honor of all sins except debt, forgiven at the first drop of their blood. A blood, the smell of which is better that any perfume in this world. And on Yaum al Qiyamah, each of these Shuhadaa will have the honor of interceding for up to 70 [SEVENTY] of their family members. On the Day of Judgment, Allah will not question ye as to why you didn't go to university, or why you didn't land that nice $80,000 job at Microsoft or IBM or whatever. But he WILL ask ye about how you spent your youth. He will ask ye why you didn't go for Jihad. As the Rasulallah said: "Anyone who dies without having fought or without having the sincere intention to fight, will die on a branch on munafiqaat." Do not fool yourselves brothers, by always putting off leaving for Jihad, thinking you have the sincere desire to go fight, but Allah knows best, you may die in a car accident or something, before you ever get to materialize your intention. It is not necessary to finish studying for that Bachelors or masters, etc. The Shariah age for fighting is 15. FIFTEEN. I'm sure you are all WAY past the age of 15. 

May Allah forgive me for anything I have said that was wrong, and all good is from Him. Allahummansur al-Mujahideen fe kulli makan. Ameen. 


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KEYWORDS: calltowar; jihadi; muslim; terrorist; threats; warning
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To: harpseal

One can only hope that a large army of Jihadists gather together in the desert to prepare to fight America. Get them all together, hundredes of thousands.

Couple of nukes should cure that B.S. pretty damned quick.


141 posted on 08/07/2005 8:36:05 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (I got an idea, and idea so devious my head would explode if I even began to know what it was.)
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To: rmar19; All
You said, "NOWHERE DOES ISLAM ENJOIN THE KILLING OF INNOCENTS.."

Then what do you call this?


142 posted on 08/07/2005 8:42:47 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy since 1992!)
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To: trubluolyguy; Lonesome in Massachussets

Thread is from 2001, resurrected by troll 'rmar19' in post 100.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/557053/posts?page=100#100


143 posted on 08/07/2005 8:44:03 AM PDT by Darksheare ("Just because I have a paper heart, doesn't mean tearing it is okay." -The man with the candy face)
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To: rmar19
NOWHERE DOES ISLAM ENJOIN THE KILLING OF INNOCENTS..

Bull. You deny that the Koran says: "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): so take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (from what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them" ???

Unless I'm missing something, you are commanded to kill anyone who rejects Islam.

Are you trying to tell me that a Christian (as I am) would not be considered an "innocent?"

You are full of yourself.

144 posted on 08/07/2005 8:46:31 AM PDT by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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To: rmar19
AllahuAkbar!!

AllahFubar...

145 posted on 08/07/2005 8:49:06 AM PDT by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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To: harpseal; rmar19; mhking
R.I.P. harpseal

AllahFubar...

Well stated!

146 posted on 08/07/2005 8:54:32 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets; trubluolyguy

Guys,

Harpseal isn't going to answer us in this lifetime. He passed away in March of 2004.


147 posted on 08/07/2005 8:55:11 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (When Judge Roberts is confirmed, FR will be EXTREMELY funny that day...Get your PROZAC here!!!)
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To: rmar19; Darksheare; mhking
Poor kitty's..too late for the terrorist troll...


148 posted on 08/07/2005 9:00:52 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: rmar19
Islam was invented to keep the murdering monkeys in line and to focus this barbarian horde so that some type of order and therefore wealth could be produced. Thats it.

The way to keep a murderous, thieving pack of subhumans in line is by brutal discipline. This the cult of mohamed does extremely well. Cutting throats, limbs, bellies for infractions of the cults rules keeps most of the ignorant nose pickers from breaking the cults rules themselves and allows the elites (the flea infested mullas) to keep on ruling.

islam, a brutish barbaric cult that can only flourish among an ignorant, murderous, barbaric, superstitious group of sub humans.

149 posted on 08/07/2005 9:15:40 AM PDT by metalurgist (Death to the democrats! They're almost the same as communists, they just move a little slower.)
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To: darkwing104
They can practice for the next time!

troll stomp kata
150 posted on 08/07/2005 9:28:12 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Okay. Get the scimitars ready!


151 posted on 08/07/2005 12:51:59 PM PDT by TBarnett34 (Hillary Clinton IS the Great Satan.)
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To: RaceBannon

Of course, it's about the US/western civilization vs. Islam. The London Bombings peeled a few layers off the PC onion, and commentators are actually telling the truth in no uncertain terms.


152 posted on 08/07/2005 12:56:48 PM PDT by hershey
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To: rmar19

Ok, rmar19, God is watching you.

I'd be shaking in my burqa or turban
if I were you.

Thank you Lord.
Amen.


153 posted on 08/07/2005 1:52:20 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: rmar19
certain people are getting more stupid day by day. dont you know that muslims fight to protect their own religion, to spread peace and human rights..why are people keep moaning about your people getting killed by muslims..dont you know in the afghan, iraq etc, muslims women and teenagers are being raped, killed..childrens suffered..who did these?? your people!..is that acceptable? so you think, your saying that our lives, muslims lives are more 'cheap' than the others..?? PATHETIC

Muslims fight to protect their own religion and to spread peace and human rights? And you called me stupid?

Your Muslim brothers don't fight, they killed indiscriminately – women, children, men, the old, the sick- anyone. They indefensibly attack innocent people to appease their hatred of western civilization -freedom, success, accomplishments, and the right of happiness- that they are willing to die for their nihilistic ideas of death and destruction.

Save your leftist diatribe for fanatics and ignorants. We are not the cause of human and economic oppression in the Middle East. Your gratuitous insults on the US is itself an attack on us. The Arab states are rich in oil and oil revenues, thanks to the western oil industry and western money. Your leaders are among the richest people in the entire world. Why can't they spread out their fortunes since it also belongs to the people and create business? Why can't they give people the freedom to develop whatever business they want so they could get out of poverty?

But how could you value prosperity when you never had it? How could you value freedom when Middle-Eastern countries never established a constitutional republic that protects the rights of its citizens, and their governments don't recognize individual rights?

However, I believe that Muslim terrorists don't want any of this. They want America to lose its freedoms and values. Your people want Israel driven into the sea and you hate us for supporting them, and most of all, because the Jewish people value the freedoms and prosperity we also value. You'll be most happy to see the world back in the dark ages.

Well, I have news for you... it ain't gonna happen. Live with it, and get over it.

154 posted on 08/07/2005 2:12:49 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: sheik yerbouty
I would add: "kus$ emeq ibn sh*rmuta!

don't forget "buss teezy".

155 posted on 08/07/2005 2:54:27 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living affront to Islam since 1959)
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To: MikeinIraq; All

Beeber set to stune!


156 posted on 08/08/2005 1:11:29 AM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: KylaStarr

ping


157 posted on 08/08/2005 6:47:12 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: PGalt; Tijeras_Slim; harpseal

I miss harpseal's tagline, so will post it here, since he can't any longer:

"(Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)"


158 posted on 08/08/2005 6:57:17 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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