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Posted on 10/25/2001 8:59:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Ok, this is a free for all thread. Come in and take your best shots. I promise I won't delete it or get upset. Get it out of your systems and then we will see if we can solve the problems. There always several sides to any story and several possible solutions to any problem. I'd like to hear them all and I'd like to solve as many problems as we can and get this forum kicking socialist butt again instead of kicking each other. So, please anyone with a complaint or a problem or a possible solution, (moderators, posters, FAB, everyone) please chime in. Thanks, Jim


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To: Jim Robinson
On some of the other boards I visit (only when FR is down) there is a feature similar to what is available now on self search. It takes you to the posts that have been made since you last were on that thread. Its pretty handy.
861 posted on 10/26/2001 8:30:29 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: Cyber Liberty
{ping, ping,ping} Quit saying Hawaii over there.
862 posted on 10/26/2001 8:33:27 AM PDT by francisandbeans
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To: KillerWabbit
Points eloquently made by Matt Drudge in a fairly well-known speech he once gave.

Not known by me.

Drudge has the dullest homepage on the www. His website mostly consists of links to other people's news sites.

Any exclusive he gets comes in the form of a tip-off from another site desperate for the traffic which they knows his link will give them.
863 posted on 10/26/2001 8:34:18 AM PDT by jjbrouwer
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To: OkieGrit2
How about the following: (1) recognize that "conservatism" and "GOP" are not synomyms (2) recognize that many RINO moderators do not recognize the above and limit their influence accordingly (3) recognize that losing an argument to one of the favored few is not a valid reason to hit the abuse button (4) recognize that heated discourse that makes one of the favored few uncomfortable is not a valid reason to hit the abuse button (5) recognize that criticism of the homosexual lifestyle and special rights for any citizen based upon sexual preference, skin color or sex should not be "hate speech" or abuse (6) recognize that there are people on FR who have agendas aimed at shaping the discussion and silencing their opposition and limit their influence accordingly

YES!

864 posted on 10/26/2001 8:35:36 AM PDT by Alas
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To: RaceBannon; Jim Robinson
Is it possible to create a search by author option?

We used to be able to do a search by author. I tried it just a moment ago, but no go. It was a very useful tool.

865 posted on 10/26/2001 8:36:19 AM PDT by southern bale
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To: rwfromkansas
What did Rivero do?

Too much tinfoil conspiracy theory stuff?

866 posted on 10/26/2001 8:36:21 AM PDT by ThreeOfSeven
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To: francisandbeans
I am particularly fond of cheese.
867 posted on 10/26/2001 8:39:04 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: M. Peach
You can see my Suggestions for the Banned/Suspended Freeper Penalty box: on post #611

There is an addition to the list on post #588

868 posted on 10/26/2001 8:42:00 AM PDT by rainingred
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To: Jim Robinson
Firstly, I have very few complaints. The thing that I feel, and others will back me up on, is that I go through withdrawal symptoms when the server is down. FreeRepublic can't be all that bad, when one feels a twitch in one's stomach when unable to access the site for 15 minutes.

Secondly, I would like to talk about etiquette. I do believe the general posting rules are adequate and fair. As the largest conservative forum on the internet, in a way, freerepublic is an ambassador to the conservative movement in general.

I bring up this point, because of a criticism I have to make of fellow posters. My positions have been evolving over the years. I used to be a wild eyed liberal, but have been getting more and more conservative as the years go on. I came to free republic out of curiousity, wanting intellectual debate, and immediately upon arriving, was flamed for being a disruptor by a fellow member who noted my join date.

I didn't think I was disrupting, I asked a question, wrote a response in a non aggressive, non confrontational way.

Thankfully, another poster pointed out that I was in no way disruptive, it encouraged me, and I continued posting, and my views have evolved even more towards a conservative philosophy as I have had time here to debate, ponder my views on the various issues that face us as a society.

I don't believe I am alone. I encourage folks to not do the new member hazing unless the person is being obviously, intentionally obnoxious.

I think that an ex-liberal like myself can contribute alot to this forum, and one does not change one's views by being insulted, sworn at, but instead engaged in passionate, (yet thoughtful) debate.

Here is a posting guideline that I personally follow. I don't want my kid in 10 years to read what I wrote and be ashamed of it. Perhaps that could be a good guideline for any of us to follow.

P.S. I really really still hate Gary Condit. I absolutely loved this summer how I and others would post incredible minutia about this case, converse in freep mail with Barbara Olson, while JimRob et al were protesting him up in Modesto. This is what makes this forum so very special.

Sorry for the length of this post folks, but as many of you are aware, I am extremely long-winded. Keep up the good work Jim

869 posted on 10/26/2001 8:42:11 AM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: Conservobabe
I like your logic , but if you can learn to take your own advice ..
870 posted on 10/26/2001 8:45:12 AM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: CWOJackson
How many times did JR give Arator a second chance?

I have no doubt that our visitor 'I respectfully dissent' was no less than Arator himself.

871 posted on 10/26/2001 8:46:14 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: rwfromkansas
Hope not, Thanks for asking . Just would like a reason if ever booted/banned ,...but then again as alledged adults in debate we should know what is over the line ourselves versus someone playing mother for us.......

But being in an adult versus adult verbage conflict does escalate to a child versus child tirade and thus the need for a moderator/mom. But then again my Mom at least whacked me a good one when I was out of line or bad on purpose or not.

Stay Safe !

872 posted on 10/26/2001 8:48:45 AM PDT by Squantos
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To: Squantos
You oughtta get banned for using Transactional Analysis on the forum....

;^)

873 posted on 10/26/2001 8:50:58 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: oc-flyfish
I have a beef with all the bitching about how you are running this board. It is your server, your LLC, and your idea. Do with it as you please Jim. You are doing a great job!

You have your point, now here is mine: Taken to its logical conclusion, running a dictatorial forum will eventually end up in Jim and the moderators and the ass kissers posting to Jim and the moderators and the ass kissers, until they too eventually turn on each other and censor each other into oblivion. If this forum doesn't ease up on the censorship, it will quickly become a minor note in cyberspace....

874 posted on 10/26/2001 8:55:10 AM PDT by Enlightiator
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To: mrsmith
You can use the advanced feature of Google search and specify the domain to search... such as freerepublic.com
875 posted on 10/26/2001 8:57:22 AM PDT by deport
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To: Timesink
Oooooo! I love that idea!

Headline: ________________ (actual)
Freepline:________________ (done by Freeper)

876 posted on 10/26/2001 8:57:33 AM PDT by Goldi-Lox
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To: Aggie Mama
Just yesterday someone posted in the morning about the possibility that OBL had been killed off by his own people. I didn't even get a chance to click on the subject before it was removed.

I suspect that post was removed because it was about the 10th time it had been posted in the previous 24 hours. If people would do an article search, instead of only relying on recent replies or the Breaking News sidebar to find what is being discussed at FR, we would have a LOT less duplicate posts.

Why people will go to the trouble to post an article, which does take some time, without bothering to see if it has already been posted here previously, is simply beyond me.

877 posted on 10/26/2001 8:58:08 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Jim Robinson
I want military time back, including the seconds.

Plus, I want you to shave everyday. You wouldn't get away with that stubble in the Navy.

Other than that.....

;^)

Thanks Jim (and John) for all you do.

5.56mm

878 posted on 10/26/2001 8:59:17 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Mr. Bungle; Jim Robinson
What I'd like to see is the ability for personal censorship. That is, a killfile-like ability for readers to ignore the posts of certain posters, or posts sourced from certain places.

Now if we could only get something like that for all aspects of life. Never again would we have to hear or read or subject ourselves to differing viewpoints. We could then merrily go along espousing our viewpoints to everyone -- unless of course they have activated their "killfile-like ability" on us. (sarcasm off)

No thanks, I would rather make the decision to ignore a point of view once I have read what that particular viewpoint is. Not only that, reading the viewpoints of others gives the resources to make a good comeback.

I mean if we never listened to Rep. McKinney or anything regarding her, how would we know she said sorry to the SA prince and then proceeded to beg for the money Giuliani turned down? Reading or hearing that story gives us a truer perspective as to where this woman stands. That way we can say with confidence that she stands four-square for herself -- the United States and victims of the bombings be damned.

879 posted on 10/26/2001 9:00:45 AM PDT by southern bale
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To: Jim Robinson; John Robinson; Inspector Harry Callahan
All right, General Robinson. I'm a latecomer to the thread. Having read your posts on this thread, I take them as a grant of permission to speak freely, sir.

First, as a not-for-profit organization that solicits donations, Free Republic is fairly unique in that its finances and expenditures are not completely transparent. Other not-for-profits I've been acquainted with, such as the United Way, the Boy Scouts and the American Red Cross, actually publish a balance sheet listing exact expenditures in each area (payroll, utility bills, office supplies, postage & stationery, rent etc.).

It doesn't have to be terribly detailed and it doesn't have to reveal every nitty-gritty detail. But I think it would go a long way toward taking the wind out of the sails of Eschoir and the Anti-Freeper crowd. You know that they hate Free Republic and they constantly accuse you and John of using FR as a cash cow. There are those of us who know better. But publishing an annual ledger prepared by a CPA would convince just about everyone else. And people who donate to not-for-profits like to see that sort of thing.

Second, completing the registration as a 501(c)(3) would allow donors to write off their donations as tax deductions every year. These two steps would substantially increase donations. For example, Eli Lilly and Richard Mellon Scaife both told The American Spectator that if it became registered as a 501(c)(3), their donations would increase. Now that the Spectator has been purchased, their magnanimity is without an appropriate outlet.

Third, we have new counsel on LAT/WP vs. FR. This is your story and I urge you to tell it. David Flyer is an outstanding attorney and both Flyer and the Freepers deserve to get better acquainted with one another. I urge you, sir, to post a detailed thread with a curriculum vitae for Attorney Flyer, or authorize me to do so. We have every reason to celebrate the fact that he is on board.

Fourth, Inspector Harry Callahan posted the news about Attorney Flyer on an open thread and he was banned. Since Eschoir monitors the docket at the Ninth Circuit on a daily basis and posts news (if any) on the Anti-Freeper sites, it was already known to the Anti-Freepers. This is unfair to Callahan and he was a valuable asset to FR. If A+Bert can come back, if Arator can come back, and if others who have been banned can come back, Callahan should definitely be brought back.

Thank you, sir, for addressing these concerns in an open manner. I'm confident that they will be given the attention they require.

880 posted on 10/26/2001 9:03:04 AM PDT by Bryan
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