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Islamic and American
Yakima-Herald Republic ^ | 10/21/01 | Michael Luo

Posted on 10/24/2001 5:42:25 PM PDT by Parmy

New York--Since missles and bombs began falling on Afghanistan, Nidal Abuasi, principan of Al Noor School in Brooklyn, has condemned the war again and again to his students.

"You don't correct something terrible with something equally terrible." he said, describing what he has been telling them. "We cannot accept or tolerate that any Muslim civilians, or any civilians on earth, fall victim or be killed in an act of retribution."

In school assemblies, classroom discussions and individual conberstations, Abuasi has urged his 600 students, from kindergarten to 12th grade, to think critically about the way. Disagreeing with the government, he tells them, doesn't make you unpatriotic.

"American," he said,"does not want its people to be rubber stamps."

Islamic school educators have found themselves in a delicate position since the events on Sept. 11 and expecially since the U.S. military campaign began against Afghanistan's Taliban rulers and the al-Qaida terrorist network.

After the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the answers were easier. Terrorism is wrong, teachers and principals told their students. Don't be ashamed of who you are, they said. Report any harassment to authorities.

The attack on Afghanistan, however, has complicated matters, according to several Islamic shcool principals. Competing allegiances to God and country must now be confronted.

Islamic schools, with their dual emphases on religion and academics, have flourished across the country in recent years as Muslim populations have boomed. There are more than 200 Islamic schools nationwide, according to the Council of Islamic Schools in North America.

Students at these schools, especially older students, are pressing their teachers to help them understand the history unfolding around them and sort through their loyalties.

"How long do the plan on bombing Afghanistan?" Javaira Moughal, a 17-year-old Al Noor student, asked during economics class. "It's already a Third World country>"

Her teacher, Maryam Sayar, said she didn't know and agreed that the bombing seemed pointless

"Why are they killing civilians?" another student asked.

"In all wars, innocent bystanders are going to be killed," Sayar said.

"Why doesn't the U.S. just listen to what Osama said and get out of the Holy Land:" asked Mona Widdi, 16.

"In my opinion, America in its foreign ppolicy has given these so-called terrorists the reason for their attacks," Moughal said.

"Why don't they just change their policies?" the students wanted to know. "Maybe because it's against their interests," Sayar said.

However, she has also tried to explain why the United States is targeting the Taliban and Osama bin Laden. She has told her students that the Taliban leaders are wrong to force their harsh religious practices upon the Afghan people.

"I don't want them to think this is Islam," she said

Almost all the students in the school are American citizens, born in the United States to immigrant parents. Yet, they are torn between loyalty to the country of their birth and concern for the countries their parents came from. In discussing the war, they repeatedly use the pronoun, "they," no "we," when referring to the United States.

"We live here, so we are Americans," said Sana Obeid, 17. But when students see fellow Muslims dying on the news, they can't help but sympathize. Obeid said, "We think of it as if we were there."

Even before Sept.11, politics was never far below the surface at Al Noor. For many students and faculty, attuned to tumult in their homelands, it is intrinsic to their identities.

Abuasi, A Palestinian-American, shows visitors a picture he keeps in his office. It depicts a Palestinian teenager with a rock in his had facing down and Israeli tank.

It is important for Muslim children to understand politics so they can be leaders in the future, the principal said. "We politicize our kids, but in a constructive way. We train them to have opinions.

The Friday before the bombing began, Abuasi told his assembled students that Muslims encounter a double standard in the world. He called Israel's primeminister, Ariel Sharon, a terrorist because of his links to an incident in Lebanon two decades ago in which several hundred Palestinians were slaughtered by troops. At another gathering, Abuasi urged his students to work for Muslim control of Islam's holy places, including the Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem.

"Be strong in every way, in political power, military power, as a Muslim nation," he said.

After the bombings began, Abuasi invited Mauri Saalakhan, the director of a Washington, D.C.-based Muslim human rights orgaization, to address his students. In a floweryoration, Saalakhan declared that Islam forbids terrorism, but he also said the Muslim Americans should not participate in the war agains fellow Muslims.

"Do not be afraid to stand up firmly and confidently for what you believe," he said.

Overwhelming, Al Noor's students agree with their principal and vigorously oppose the war, according to teachers. Many students are cynical about America's motives and see the bombing as an example of the United States bullying the Arab world.

Teachers insist they try to remain impartial, acting only as moderators during class discussions. However, their opinions creep in as students demand answers. As a result, what students at Al Noor and other Islamic schools hear about the war in their classrooms is markedly different from what students hear at other schools in the United States.

Founded in 1995, Al Noor has grown into the largest Islamic school in New York and one of the largest in the country, its principal, Abuasi, said. Starting with just grades K through 6, Al Noor added a grade every year. Its first-ever senior class will graduate this year. The students are about 60 percent Arab--mostly from Palestine, Egypt and Yemen--and about 40 percent South Asian.

In some ways, the school is like any other. Teen-agers giggle in the hallways; students play bolleyball in the courtyard; Pokemon and Winnie the Pooh stickers grace binder covers.

But students here are segregated by sex. The girls all wear Islamic head scarves, even while playing volleyball. Students and staff gather each morning and afternoon for prayer and recitation of the Quran. All students take Islamic studies and Arabic classes daily>

On Sept. 11, it was Al Noor's seventh-grade girls who ran through the halls, spreading the news they could see from their classrooms on the third floor: The World Trade Center was on fire. Within hours, passersby yelled epithets at the building. A man managed to slip inside the shcool, screaming, "You next, you next."

The school closed for a week. When students came back, the firest two periods for the rest of the week were devoted to students' fears and questions.

The next week, however, gradually, teachers tried to return to their lessons: ancient civilizations in the ninth-grade social studies class; women in Islam in the 12th-grade Islamic studies class.

The war caught the faculty by surprise. The school made no specific plans for what teachers should say. But the topic came up again and again in discussions, especially in social studies classes. That left teachers such as Sayar, a 22-year-old recent college graduate, bearing much of the burden.

Sayar, who wears a dark-blue veil that covers her entire face, except for her eyes, is Afghan-American. Her parents were anti-Communists and part of the mujaedeen movement, before coming to America. She has not heard from relatives in Kabul since the bombing began.

Most of her students did not even know where Afghanistan was before the war started, she said. So, she has taken it upon herself to educate her students on the events in her homeland, squeezing in time between regular lessons to explain the country's cycle of poverty and to describe how the Taliban evolved from the munahedeen fighters funded by the United States in the 1980's to fight Soviet invaders.

She taught her students that the United States violated the United Nations charter in its attack on Afghanistan because the United States lacked the proof needed to justify force.

She had also told her students that there are problems with the evidence against bin Laden. Sayar questioned the discovery of a passport belonging to one alleged hijacker in the wreckage. She wondered how something like that could have survived the fiery crash.

But Sayar has also taken pains to explain the other side. Knowing that some of her students are cheered by bin Laden's rhetoric against American support for Israel, she has taught them about the Jewish diaspora. She has explained that Jews have been persecuted, and laid out why they feel so strongly about Israel.

Be independent thinkers, she tells her students, and don't believe everything you read and hear in the media.

"I try to be a neutral party," she said.

When it comes down to it, however, Sayar acknowledges the obvious--that her teaching is colored by her experience.

Said Sayar: "I'm a Muslim."


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Questions, anyone?????
1 posted on 10/24/2001 5:42:25 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: Parmy
Thanks for the post. It looks like you had to type it in yourself.
2 posted on 10/24/2001 5:50:00 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Parmy
re:
"..Questions, anyone?????....."

Yeah.

If it's a private school, why do you care? Private schools
are entitled to teach in the style and belief they want.

Or are you suggesting that there be legislation passed that
gives government the right to dictate studies of private schools?

 

3 posted on 10/24/2001 5:50:52 PM PDT by Deep_6
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To: Parmy
Yes, why are these schools and people in this country?

This is insane. Do you trust these people to be Americans first or Muslims first? I don't think they can be both.

This is suicide for these people and schools to be allowed here.

What in the world ever happened to common sense?

4 posted on 10/24/2001 5:52:28 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: Parmy
Looks like the Trojan Horse of Islam is already here.
5 posted on 10/24/2001 5:56:03 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: Parmy

Islamic and American

should read:

Islamic or American.

6 posted on 10/24/2001 5:57:08 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Deep_6
sedition n
actions or words intended to provoke or incite rebellion against government authority, or such a rebellion

All recent Americans should have signed the following to become citizens.

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties upon which I am about to enter.

If these people would rather live elsewhere, they should be deported.

7 posted on 10/24/2001 6:00:07 PM PDT by adamj
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To: Parmy
"Be strong in every way, in political power, military power, as a Muslim nation," he said.

I had to make sure I had this right. Not American...Muslim. What great American citizens these Muslims make. We need more of them...NOT!

8 posted on 10/24/2001 6:03:31 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: adamj
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"...actions or words intended to provoke or incite rebellion 
against government authority, or such a rebellion...."

Ever hear of the right to dissent?

It's as American as apple pie.

What's the sense of fighting for freedom, if those
at home are giving theirs up?

 

9 posted on 10/24/2001 6:15:12 PM PDT by Deep_6
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To: Parmy
"You don't correct something terrible with something equally terrible." he said, describing what he has been telling them.

Correct. It must be something much harsher to gain attention of the perps and to deter further terror. Going after their personal famalies should be included so that they know their actions sealed their famalies fate.

"We cannot accept or tolerate that any Muslim civilians, or any civilians on earth, fall victim or be killed in an act of retribution."

It does not matter what label is placed on the perps, they must be removed from society permanently--incarceration or death. Behaviors do not extinct themselves until the penalty exceeds the reward. This is just the way humans are put together.

10 posted on 10/24/2001 6:15:43 PM PDT by GalvestonBeachcomber
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To: Deep_6
Where did you get the idea that private schools can teach anything they want? Does that include sedition? Devil worship? Infaticide? Cannibalism? Incest? Perjury as a human good? Etc. Private schools must be accredited by the State just as a high school is (and, usually, just like home-school children are).
11 posted on 10/24/2001 6:20:06 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: gaspar
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"..Private schools must be accredited by the State...."

huh?

Our local schools lost their accreditation three years in a row.
Many public and private schools lose their accreditation, and
accreditation is variable, depending on the source doing the
accrediting.

Private schools have the ability to teach ideals, religious beliefs,
etc, provided they are not accepting government funding. The
government has little control, nor should have control.

If the topic of this post is a private, Muslim school, it has the
absolute right to teach the beliefs it desires.

12 posted on 10/24/2001 6:29:45 PM PDT by Deep_6
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To: Parmy
"You don't correct something terrible with something equally terrible." he said, describing what he has been telling them. "We cannot accept or tolerate that any Muslim civilians, or any civilians on earth, fall victim or be killed in an act of retribution."

You mean like flying civilian airplanes into buildings, slaughtering 5,000 innocent lives all to aledgedly protest our treatment of the Palestinians? Yeah, yeah, you say terrorism is wrong, but in the same breath you justify their evil with juvenile moral relativity. Pardon me sir, but your hypocrisy is showing. Your actions speak far more loudly than your meaningless words.

13 posted on 10/24/2001 6:34:47 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Reaganesque
It seems to me that Islam and those professing faith in Islam have a disconnect with reality. It, and they, also express a moral vacuum. Finally, it, and they, do not face up to their responsibility as a religion and human beings. They blame everything and everyone else for their own lack in their lives. They use the Flip Wilson (Geraldine) excuse. "The Devil made me do it."
14 posted on 10/24/2001 6:43:59 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: Parmy
" We live here, so we are Americans," said Sana Obeid, 17. But when students see fellow Muslims dying on the news, they can't help but sympathize. Obeid said, "We think of it as if we were there." "

Since these idiots think living in America IS LIKE living in Afghanistan, let's send their traitorous butts back there so they can SEE THE DIFFERENCE.

15 posted on 10/24/2001 6:48:55 PM PDT by Republic of Texas
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To: Deep_6
I'm suprised you don't know the difference between dissent and sedition. They can criticize all they want, so can we. If they aren't citizens, we can even deport them. Se, we ALL have some rights.
16 posted on 10/24/2001 6:51:53 PM PDT by Republic of Texas
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To: Parmy
Can't agree more. The more I hear Muslims speak, the more I think there must be something in their beliefs that results in schizophrenia, insanity, delusional thinking, and non-stop world class lying.

The one question that needs to be put to all of them, with a one word answer demanded is "Where are the hijackers now...Heaven or Hell?"

17 posted on 10/24/2001 6:56:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Kosh
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To: 2sheep; Jeremiah Jr; TrueBeliever9; Prodigal Daughter; babylonian
"Be strong in every way, in political power, military power, as a Muslim nation," he said.

And...

passersby yelled epithets at the building.

Hmmm, maybe the passersby thought the school was unAmerican. Can't imagine why!

18 posted on 10/24/2001 7:04:58 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Parmy
Well...if they don't want to see something that is going to inevitably take place, they should just close their eyes, real tight, like the libs here have been doing for thirty or forty years.
19 posted on 10/24/2001 7:25:52 PM PDT by wastoute
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To: Mrs. Kosh
Can't agree more. The more I hear Muslims speak, the more I think there must be something in their beliefs that results in schizophrenia, insanity, delusional thinking, and non-stop world class lying.

This comes from accepting a religion lock stock and barrel without giving reason a chance to build a case. The Muslims as a general rule do not apply reason to these facts: Its OK for muslims to kill and die in battle, they go to heaven and the infidels were not entitled to a life anyway.
If non-muslims kill in retribution for the above killing, it is wrong and muslims are entitled to their revenge. I've heard of being damned if you do and damned if you don't but this takes the cake.

20 posted on 10/24/2001 7:34:17 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom
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