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Is anyone concerned about this anthrax stuff
Ty

Posted on 10/23/2001 6:10:51 PM PDT by Tycobb

I don't know about you, but this is starting to get on my nerves. Even though we have the A team in the White House, it appears as though even they are having trouble staying ahead of this. Can you imagine if another germ or two were introduced. We keep hearing something new each day, and usually it is not good news. I know this is still small scale stuff (just in an isolated area) and I am not losing faith, but....are we winning this war? It is obvious they are getting what they wanted....paranoia...(maybe like this post). I guess you have to still look at these incidents as isolated incidents. Nothing to panic about, but they are keeping us (whomever they are) busy with this and it sounds like we don't have a clue as to who is doing this. A penny for your thoughts.


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To: CathyRyan
I am not the hunker down type. I have probably shopped more this past month than I have in 5 years. I am very angry with no place to put it, so I shop. BTW, today I found two huge dark, sage green, ultra suade pillows at "Linens and Things" for my son to toss on his floor and relax on. They had some great stuff at low prices, just a tip. lol
41 posted on 10/23/2001 7:09:27 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Tycobb
My working hypothesis is that it is the work of terrorists, they only have a very small quantity of anthrax to work with, and they are leveraging it by careful selection of targets combined with larger quantities of false alarm mailings of inert powder. Have to hand it to them: they have managed to do a lot with very little.

If this hypothesis is true (and so far it seems to fit all known facts very well), then it should be comforting to know that the sky is not falling, we can survive this attack. A little bit of prudence will go a long way.

Smallpox is a much, much greater worry, however.

42 posted on 10/23/2001 7:13:52 PM PDT by Stefan Stackhouse
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To: MissAmericanPie
First of all, to all of you who are quoting accident statistics and the like, this is so different. When you were born into this world, or at least for the last 30 years, the "contract" you made with your day-to-day existence did NOT contemplate such risks, and the fact that they are coming from WITHIN this country makes it all the more scary and sinister. The WTC attack and anthrax mailings were no accidents. Also, since I heard on the news earlier that the Daschle anthrax was so potent as to expose someone who was 20 yards down the hall, and so many postal workers (bless their souls) are droppping like flies, that is not a normal risk associated with everyday life and even if not completely unavoidable as we are "at war" should be better dealt with. This thing has the potential to get bigger, yes, but why don't we at least TRY to prevent that... And that may just start with people being very fearful of what I believe is a legitamate risk. Just the other day the CDC et al were saying the postal workers weren't really at risk but lo and behold they were, and today they say our (the USPS consumers' mail) is okay, but why should we believe that??? Especially if the stuff is so darn potent! And what's with this cropduster in Mississippi, and not being able to isolate anthrax in the body before death (as in 2 recent postal worker deaths). I do not think it is unreasonable to be scared, and to take precautions and to demand action on the part of govt to get to bottom of problem (even if this is only one in a series).
43 posted on 10/23/2001 7:18:18 PM PDT by formernyer
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To: Tycobb

I crap biggern' anthrax!


44 posted on 10/23/2001 7:20:43 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: Tycobb
I'm a little, no, a lot sick of hearing about anthrax.

I would love to have the opprotunity to ask one of the "experts" if, since there have been so few deaths, could it possibly be that we are only noticing and testing for it now because of 9/11. Couldn't it be that many deaths attributed to the flu in years past were actually anthrax, but since no one was testing for it, it went unoticed?

That may be a dumb idea, but I would like to know.

45 posted on 10/23/2001 7:25:34 PM PDT by Budge
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To: Tycobb
No we are not winning anything.

What are we doing successfully to interrupt the enemy in his distribution of anthrax? Sure, the number of deaths from this weapon is small, but when and how do we expect to make him stop? If at all?

What would we do to counter any one of the smallpox virus aerosol distribution schemes? The enemy could distribute the virus and disappear into the woodwork--how would we stop him? How would we catch him or discover him? What would we do to keep large numbers of people from being infected by smallpox or to keep infected individuals from communicating the desease to others? It is likely to happen so expect it.

There are other bad bugs out there: Plague; ebola to name two. The residential water supply is vunerable to poisens. What plan have you heard that anticipates practical attacks and prevents them; responds; or aprehends the perps? At every point, we are late, slow, and unprepared.

The military attack is not producing results. My own view is that Bin Laden is no longer in Afghanistan. Although I do not believe he is the principal decision maker, he is a top general; maybe part of the command group. The military effort may simply come to an unsuccessful end because we are not able to mount an effective effort during the winter or because our allies keep us from continuing the effort during the holy days; we may fail because having killed a number of Bin Laden's soldiers, we wake up to realize that we have not in any way affected his ability to wage war on us.

From a secular point of view, our leaders are not smart enough; thoughtful enough; or prepared enough to protect the national interest and save the Republic. They are driven by a number of political considerations that interfere with their objective. We need to secure our borders; deal with the enemy within; and formulate a more robust military strategy to respond to the enemy without. At some point, I suspect when the enemy demonstrates that he can inflict another major domestic defeat without cost or retribution, the political constituency will wake up to the fact that the present US government cannot do anything about this enemy.

The analysis that we have turned away from God is probably too long for this location. However a nation that turns away from God loses the blessing of His protection and very bad things happen to it.

Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain--turn on your local TV station anytime--you will hear God's name more often in vain that you hear it in your local Church. Honor the Sabbath--for purposes of worshipping the National Football league at the local shoping mall? Thou shalt not commit adultry--extra marital relationships are the national norm. Thou shalt not bear false witness? Listen to the excuses for the false witness of our recent president. Don't steal? It's so commonplace the cops don't respond any more. That shalt not covet--our national system of taxation is the institutionalization of covetous conduct (the political justification for the progressive rate system). Man shall not lie with a man as with a women for it is an abomination to the Lord? We engage in all kinds of conduct that does not amount to righteousness as described by God. Honor God in the modern USA? We pray to Him but anyone who suggests that He is really who He says He is and means what He tells us is viewed as having less than all of their normal mental capacity.

When we pray to God that He bless our nation, we need to ask ourselves why He would do that. When Israel turned its face from God, He permitted Nebuchadnezzar to destroy their country. Why should the US expect anything else?

47 posted on 10/23/2001 7:29:55 PM PDT by David
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To: formernyer
Hey, I'm with you, I called my congressman about immigration and visa's, they don't care. There are 30 million visas out there in the world. You and I are easy to replace with a third worlder and congress doesn't miss a beat raking in those corporate donations, and arab money. What's a few worker bees compared to messing with free trade and the cheap labor from immigration?

Look how badly the postal workers were treated, they stepped all over their bodies to save a few elite congressmen.

48 posted on 10/23/2001 7:30:50 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Tycobb
it sounds like we don't have a clue as to who is doing this.

We have a clue. It's the Islamofascists, using anthrax provided by Iraq. It's just that our government either so far lacks conclusive proof of this, or finds it prudent not to go public with this proof at the moment when our troops are fighting in Afghanistan.

49 posted on 10/23/2001 7:32:59 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Tycobb
nope. if you die you die. fear has never prevented one human from that end...
50 posted on 10/23/2001 7:35:34 PM PDT by go star go
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To: Tycobb
1. Do NOT open your mail in your home, office, church, school, or around children.
2. Have plastic trash containers ready for 'dumping' all your mail.
. 3. Your mail includes booklets, magazines, newspapers, letters, packages, and various ads.
IMHO
52 posted on 10/23/2001 7:37:03 PM PDT by maestro
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To: Stefan Stackhouse
Smallpox is a much, much greater worry, however.

Agreed. I don't care about anthrax. But what about smallpox, do we renew (or get) our immunity by hanging out with the cows?

53 posted on 10/23/2001 7:37:45 PM PDT by pbear8
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To: Budge
Budge, I have wondered the same thing. I too wonder if people die every year from Anthrax and nobody has noticed. I mean the post office person in DC who died went to the doctor the day before his death, and they thought he had the flu. I know he didn't tell them he worked at the post office, but with the unbelievable hightened sensitivity, I can't believe the doctor didn't consider it a possibility.

It's kind of similar to what we've all heard about all money being tainted with cocaine. Maybe it's the same with Anthrax; maybe it's in more places than we'd normally think.

Mind you, I am not discounting that there is some effort underway with some group to spread Anthrax. I'm just not convinced it is related to the 9-11 happenings. Since the known intended victims were liberal media or democrats, I am a tad concerned it is some internal US group doing it. Not saying it's a VRWC, but some militant US group.

54 posted on 10/23/2001 7:39:23 PM PDT by gswilder
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To: Tycobb
Suck It Up
55 posted on 10/23/2001 8:08:45 PM PDT by LiveFree2000
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To: Tycobb
No. My faith is in Jesus Christ. "Whom shall I fear?"
57 posted on 10/24/2001 12:31:29 AM PDT by brat
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