McVeigh's Ghost - Top Pentagon Officials Say Iraq Involved in OKC Bombing

US News & World Report/ Fox & Friends ^ | October 23, 2001 | Paul Bedard

[OKCSubmariner]

Some dismiss it as being akin to Elvis sightings, but a few top Defense officials think Oklahoma City bomber Tim McVeigh was an Iraqi agent. The theory stems from a never-before-reported allegation that McVeigh had allegedly collected Iraqi telephone numbers. Why haven't we heard this before about the case of the executed McVeigh? Conspiracy theorists in the Pentagon think it's part of a coverup.

[honway]

A few weeks ago I heard that one of the biggest terrorists cells is in the Phillipines. The flash I had was McNichols. That's where he found his wife.

From Stephen Jones' book Others Unknown p.149

"Over the next four years(begining in 1990), Terry made numerous trips to the Philippines. Some of them were lengthy-thirty days or longer-others were quickies. Some were with Marife, some without."

I wonder what a round trip to the Philippines cost and where Nichols would get the money?

[Snow Bunny]

BUMP and thanks.

[Straight Vermonter]

Very interesting post. I have a slightly different take on this. How does Saddam Hussein benefit from this act of terror without taking credit? Unless his goal was to defame the right or to have a practice run at operating in the US. I see no benefit to him.

I have read a lot of good reasoning on how Clinton benefits from the cover up. Maybe someone has a good explanation of how Iraq benefits.

[norton]

"Bush senior's plan..."
Accepted for sake of arguement, but what was his reason for doing so and why did Slick continue with that plan?

[Snow Bunny]

BIG BUMP for truth!

[Snow Bunny]

Thank you for this thread and information.

BUMP for truth.

[honway]

How does Saddam Hussein benefit from this act of terror without taking credit?

He has not taken credit for 9-11 or the Anthrax attack. Saddam's goal is to ignite a war between Islam and the U.S. He knows he can not defeat the U.S., but he believes Islam can. The goal of the terrorist coalition is to provoke the U.S. into an action that will in return mobilize Islam against the U.S., yet allow the terrorist coalition appear to be the victim. That is why they don't take credit.

[R_Kangel]

Looks like we have only one alternative here. Drop a 5000lb bunkerbuster on McVeigh's grave. That way his body won't rise from the dead on Halloween night and lead the Militia in an unholy take over of the US. (sarcasm).

[Stefan Stackhouse]

Also it is believed Terry Nichols met with Bin Laden operatives of the Abu Sayef terror organization in the Phillipines months before the OKC bombing. Bin Laden and Sadam Hussein have worked closely with each other on terror projects for years. Wolfowitz and Admiral Woolsey (former CIA and FBI director) think Sadam Hussain and Bin Laden also worked together on the Pentagon and WTC attacks on 9/11/2001.

Question: Does the constitutional prohibition against double jeapordy preclude trying Nichols for TREASON? He has not been tried for treason yet, so I would hope not.

Now that it has come out that McVeigh was not only a terrorist but also a traitor, we now have a useful precedent -- one traitor has actually been executed. Nichols also deserves this, as do all of what must be hundreds, if not thousands, of others who have stabbed this country in the back and murdered thousands of innocent citizens.

I am just hoping and praying that now that the truth of this incident is starting to be pried open, the trail of treason will eventually be exposed all the way back to the TRAITOR IN CHIEF -- Bill Clinton. Now that he is no longer in office, I see no reason why he should not be tried, convicted, and sentenced appropriately.

[Landru]

"Then he couldn't blame talk radio after the '94 election drubbing."

IF any part of that were ever proven to be true...

[OKCSubmariner]

Fox and Friends is on the Fox News Channel. It airs between 6 and 9 am EST Moday thru Friday.

I have a friend who saw todays saw on Fox and Friends and he gave me a detailed account which matched the one given to me directly by the show's guest, David Bedard of US News and World Report.

[Landru]

"I am just hoping and praying that now that the truth of this incident is starting to be pried open, the trail of treason will eventually be exposed all the way back to the TRAITOR IN CHIEF -- Bill Clinton. Now that he is no longer in office, I see no reason why he should not be tried, convicted, and sentenced appropriately."

You're not alone here.

Well boys & girls?
Feature *this*.
Whadda ya think about that? Hmmm?

[OKCSubmariner]

Thank your for the posting of the articles- very pertient and timely.

[OKCSubmariner]

Responsible USG officials need to try and question Terry Nichols more thoroughly and immediately about ME connections to the OKC case because it is likely the same ME terror cells and groups are still operating in the US , may have assisted the 9/11/2001 attacks, and could assist in future attacks.

[comitatus]

According to Dick Morris, who was there, within hours after the bombing, Clinton and his spin doctors decided to use the OKC bombing as a means of attacking Newt and other conservatives by blaming them for the "culture of hate" A middle east connection would blow the political opportunity, which has been enormous-the fact that the largest terrorist attack in the US prior to 9-11 was done by a "right wing" group has been used against conservatives relentlessly, and even in the wake of 9-11, we heard references to it. It has been an extremely successful bit of propaganda, that's why.

[Yellow Rose of Texas]

link from post # 44

from the article on that thread -

A few moments later, a block away and around the corner, the same men almost ran over a lady, Kathy (not real name), who worked at the nearby phone company. Kathy became a witness for KFORTV in OKC and Kathy described one of the men in the truck in detail. KFORTV reported that this man was an Iraqi who had served in Saddam Hussein’s Republican Guard and had been seen with McVeigh several times in OKC before the bombing. The Iraqi had been brought to the US along with other Iraqis by the Clinton administration over the objections of US Senators and POW organizations. KFORTV presented reports to refute the alibi of the Iraqi.

[Chemnitz]

1-800-BIN-LADN.

[Congolese]

I DO remember the picture of an "accomplice" that was on the news in the hours after the bombing - anyone have a news archive? Heavy set, mustache, dark skinned...

Remember when they picked up McVeigh? There was some fluff about "not looking anything like the picture"

I can picture they guy in my head, and remember just as clearly that the whole thing about the accomplice just kind of "went away"

[Straight Vermonter]

I think you make my point. Having McVeigh take the fall for OKC does not start a war between the US and Islam.