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myself | Today | Le-Roy

Posted on 10/14/2001 8:19:00 AM PDT by Le-Roy

   Folks, please excuse the vanity, but I would like to get others to look at this.

   If there is anyone in Dallas with a telescope or a good set of binoculars, get outside and point them SE, towards Kaufman Cty.

   There are currently thousands (literally) of wispy, white 'streamers' of something drifting down through the sky. This stuff is falling all over my yard, all over Forney, and all the way out to Terrell.

   Could this be the same 'harmless' stuff which fell in Trappe, MD. last week? I don't know, but it is truly bizarre.


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To: Le-Roy
"If it were spiders, it would still be incredibly unusual for that many this late in the year, and this was verified from northeastern Dallas to at least 120 miles SW. "

The flying spider phenomenon is one of thse strange events that's on a weird natural clock. Spider hatchlings over a wide area, from thousands of nests, will all disperse at once.

And their dispersal will be over a still wider area.

141 posted on 10/14/2001 10:48:25 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: swampfx
   Thanks for your comments. This stuff is still up there now, if you want to see it. Stand on the shady side of a building, move to where the sun is just blocked by the building, and adjust your binoculars until they come in to focus.

   This stuff has been reported from north-eastern Dallas all the way to Corpus Christi (swampfx's post at #137). Don't know if these are localized pockets, or generally predominant for that range.

   Has anyone heard any further details on the stuff in Trappe, MD, other than it was determined to be 'harmless'?

142 posted on 10/14/2001 10:48:50 AM PDT by Le-Roy
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To: TexanMom
One thing people don't realize about accusations of aircraft spraying things is that, for any sort of atomized liquid, particles, or whatever the heck people claim this stuff is....Either...

1) The aircraft would literally have to buzz you....at 100 feet DIRECTLY overhead...to actually hit you with it....or...

2) To hit the Dallas area the stuff would have to be dispensed in New Mexico or Colorado, to actually land in Dallas...and they wouldn't be able to predict whether stuff dropped in New Mexico would land in Dallas, Houston, Oklahoma, etc.

143 posted on 10/14/2001 10:49:41 AM PDT by John H K
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To: Le-Roy
Okay, talked to some cousins in Kaufman. They don't even see anything falling in that area. Having spent my childhood frequently in that region (Kaufman, Crandall, Terrell, Forney) I know this is cottonwood season. Cottonwoods grow tall but they are water-suckers, shed their bark rather ugly, and the "female" cottonwoods release tons of white seeds every fall. Nasty but if anything happens only the people with allergies are going to suffer and that happens every year.
144 posted on 10/14/2001 10:52:54 AM PDT by BigBwana
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To: Le-Roy
It was bird s***, as I noted earlier. The stupidity of some of the residents of the Eastern Shore is beyond comprehension.
145 posted on 10/14/2001 10:53:36 AM PDT by John H K
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To: Le-Roy
It could be spiders. This reminds me of Robert Lowell's brilliant and terrible poem, "Mr. [Jonathan] Edwards and the Spider." Here's the first verse:

I saw the spiders marching through the air,
Swimming from tree to tree, that mildewed day
In latter August when the hay
Came creaking to the barn. But where
The wind is westerly
Where gnarled November makes the spiders fly
Into the apparitions of the sky,
They purpose nothing but their ease and die
Urgently beating east to sunrise and the sea.

147 posted on 10/14/2001 10:58:50 AM PDT by Cicero
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To: cyberwatcher
I just talked to the company dispatched on this first, and they said it was being reported all over the city,

and that the substance was being analyzed by the naval airstation to see what it was.

Also, the plane that was seen had reported in and wasn't considered a risk.<P.Reporting from North Fort Worth, I'm Dain Bramage,.. back to you Bob.

148 posted on 10/14/2001 10:59:22 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: John H K
If you think we are so stupid, why are you reading this thread?
149 posted on 10/14/2001 11:05:07 AM PDT by cyberwatcher
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To: Cicero; Le-Roy; classygreeneyedblonde
Check this ballooning spider link.

"Dr. Jerome Rovner, one of the world's leading arachnologists (authorities on spiders), told Journey North, "Ballooning spiders indeed make up a large component of the aerial plankton. Darwin noted a mass landing of spiders on THE BEAGLE when 200 miles off the coast of South America. About 15 or so years ago, some Californians panicked at the sight of mysterious--and probably alien!--material falling from the sky (the silk threads of a major spider ballooning event)."

"One entomologist, Dr. Gilbert Waldbauer, calculated that during daylight in May, a volume of air 1 mile square extending from 20 feet above the ground to an altitude of 500 feet contained 32 million arthropods! He wrote that "This amounts to 6 arthropods per 10 cubic yards of air. Ten cubic yards is quite a small space, about the size of a small clothes closet."

150 posted on 10/14/2001 11:05:36 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Le-Roy
Cottonwood does it's thing Feb-March.
151 posted on 10/14/2001 11:06:45 AM PDT by nancetc
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To: Eva
That is Black mold.
152 posted on 10/14/2001 11:08:20 AM PDT by nancetc
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To: DainBramage
Thanks, DB. And now back to Leroy in Dallas...
153 posted on 10/14/2001 11:08:27 AM PDT by cyberwatcher
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To: Carol-HuTex
"if I stood behind something blocking the sun so that I could look straight up, as far as I could see which was literally hundreds of feet, there were web like streamers slowly drifting to earth.

Same thing as we are seeing here today. Very much like spider web strand, with a clump at one end or the other. I too, think it is naturally occuring, just don't know from what. Grew up around here and don't ever recall seeing it before. I have taken a picture of one of the clumps on the ground, but no longer have server access to post it.

154 posted on 10/14/2001 11:11:47 AM PDT by DKM
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To: Sabertooth
Bor-or-is the Spider!!
155 posted on 10/14/2001 11:13:14 AM PDT by Gasshog
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To: Cicero; Le-Roy; classygreeneyedblonde; DainBramage
From another source...

"In Missouri, people tend to notice ballooning spiders most in the spring and fall, though ballooning may take place any time of the year for some species.

How far can spiders expect to travel on their gossamer aircraft? Because spiderlings are so small and difficult to see against a background of white sky, it is impossible to come up with species-by-species accounts and averages. One spiderling may land just a few yards from its take-off point, while its sibling may travel 100 yards. Still other species may go for miles and perish in a lake, or wrap themselves around the neck of an unsuspecting angler.

Charles Darwin observed the arrival of ballooning spiders on board a ship 60 miles from the coast of South America. Arachnologists-people who study spiders-have concluded that most ballooning spiders reach heights of 200 feet or less, though people have seen spiders at 5,000 feet and a few at 10,000."

156 posted on 10/14/2001 11:18:48 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: BigBwana
   Your cousins could see it if they did as has been mentioned several times in this thread. Get on the shady side of a building, move to where the sun is just blocked by the building, and look up. It's still up there, and it ain't cottonwood.

   I'm almost convinced that it is spiders, but I have never seen so much of it at once.

   P.S. It is the male cottonwoods that release pollen, the females are the pollen-collectors. There's some pretty interesting web-sites of botanists, horticulturalists, Ph.D. plant people (more alliteration...;^), that point to the predominance of male trees and bushes (many places between 90-95%) in urban areas as being responsible for the exponential increase in allergies and asthma. I think they have a point.

157 posted on 10/14/2001 11:18:56 AM PDT by Le-Roy
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To: sinkspur; chesty_puller
What you guys got loose up there?
158 posted on 10/14/2001 11:20:45 AM PDT by deport
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To: Sabertooth
   As I mentioned to another awhile ago, I am almost convinced that it is spiders, and your excerpt about 6/10cu.yds. seems about right.

   However...this is October, not May. It's still unusual...and somewhat disconcerting in such abundance. Although, after four years of abounding grasshoppers, the spider population was bound to explode. (I actually let one stay by my porch, and she managed four egg sacks before she was gone.)

Uh, the egg sacks are still there, BTW.

159 posted on 10/14/2001 11:24:36 AM PDT by Le-Roy
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To: Cicero; Le-Roy; classygreeneyedblonde; DainBramage; Gasshog; Carol-HuTex; cyberwatcher

Yikes!


160 posted on 10/14/2001 11:26:34 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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