Giuliani told no to longer transition... (Goodbye Unity, Hello Partisanship)

Drudge Report ^ | Tue Oct 09 2001 | Matt Drudge

[Texaggie79]

UPI-- New York's top Democrat said the state assembly won't allow New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani -- who is barred from a third term -- to remain in office in an extended 90-day transition period after Jan 1. The Democratic conference controls two-thirds of the 150-member state assembly.

[Texaggie79]

I heard Giuliani mention this on Rush today. It is pretty obvious that the democratic party does not to participate in the NY government after the next elections.

[MHGinTN]

Does anyone think, with billions in funds coming to New York, that the criminal enterprise democrat party could allow anyone but them to disperse it?... With democrats in power, one in ten dollars will go to aid; with Giuliani in control for three more months the funds would all go to aid! The democrat criminals cannot allow such monies to go to real help that would show pubby compassionate conservatism. New Yorkers are gonna get what they deserve for voting crimnals like Schumer and hatellary into office.

[jackbill]

It's the New York citizens' loss. And who are the New York citizens? DemocRATs. Let them stew in their own juice.

The only thing that Rudy had to gain from this extension was the ability to help his city. The DemocRAT politicians say they don't want his help, so whatever happens is their fault. And, as much as I feel sorry for the citizens, they make the bed, they lie in it.

[TexRef]

If the NYC mayor was Democratic and trying to get an extension on their term, every Freeper would be saying how horrible it was that a politician was using this tragedy for personal gain.

We need to move on with our lives -- and that includes Rudy. No one is stopping him from helping after his term is up.

[patriciaruth]

The proper thing to do would have been for Guilani to offer to stay on as an unpaid advisor for a few months to whomever is the new mayor.
General Washington then President Washington then private citizen Washington was our one indispensible man, and he set the example that the peaceful passage of power no matter what the circumstances is the one indispensible rule for our Republic.

[Texaggie79]

If the NYC mayor was Democratic and trying to get an extension on their term, every Freeper would be saying how horrible it was that a politician was using this tragedy for personal gain.

BS! I don't care what end of the political spectrum you are on, if you had done as spectacular job as Rudy, I would support your extension. Not just for the sake of it, but in order to help out NY.

Do you REALLY think that the incumbent will be able to effectively pick up where Rudy leaves off in a month? This has nothing to do with politics, but the democrats are making it such.

[americalost]

I disagree with you. Rush put it best when he said think about, oh, December of last year. Imagine Slick saying, "Y'know (lipbite), we don't REALLY know who won down there in Florida (wink). I would be WILLING, and it would be a big sacrifice, but I would be WILLING to SERVE my country if y'all want me to stay. (lipbite)(grin) I'll stay if you want me to. We can't have the country go through this crisis unnecessarily. These are extraordinary circumstances, after all ..."

Rudy was duly elected and the term ends 12/31. That is the end of it. This whole discussion is preposterous, imo.

[Texaggie79]

The proper thing to do would have been for Guilani to offer to stay on as an unpaid advisor for a few months to whomever is the new mayor.

That is EXACTLY what Rudy did and the article is talking about. Rudy offered to stay on staff to smooth the transition over 3 months instead of the usual 1.

[arete]

and that includes Rudy. No one is stopping him from helping after his term is up.

I agree. Rudy has been a great rallying figure in all this, but it is time for him to move along. I do hope that he decides to run for a NY senate seat against Hitlery in a few years. He may be the only person that can unseat a RAT in NY.

Richard W.

[Texaggie79]

If we were in a NATIONAL DISASTER, one that Clinton was quite effectively helping the resolution of, I would certainly want him to stay on and help advise the transition. This was not the case with the presidential election.

NY is a national disaster area, and one that will take years to completely heal. One month will never be enough to effectively transpose a complete leadership administration under such stressful times.

[Texaggie79]

If we were in a NATIONAL DISASTER, one that Clinton was quite effectively helping the resolution of, I would certainly want him to stay on and help advise the transition. This was not the case with the presidential election.

NY is a national disaster area, and one that will take years to completely heal. One month will never be enough to effectively transpose a complete leadership administration under such stressful times.

[Texaggie79]

You guys seem to be missing what the article is saying. A third term was never in question as Rudy turned it down to begin with. This is about his offer to stay on as an advisor for 3 months to help the new administration to pick up with the disaster where he leaves off.

[Jalapeno]

There is no way in Hell I would of wanted Clinton's term extended one minute, so there is no way this should be supported if there is any opposition to it. They should instead create a referendum to repeal the term limits and write him in on election day if they want him that bad. That's the way it is done in this country.

[LS]

I have to agree with TexRef. In "everyday life," yeah, you let the guy stay on. But we have laws about these things specifically so that we DO NOT get a mayor for life, or worse, a Clinton forever.

[Texaggie79]

Ok we are at WWIII the current pres, whoever it is is winning. His term is out and a new pres comes in of a different party. Would you seriously feel okay with completely starting the administration all over during WAR?

This is, in essence what NY is facing. He wouldn't be MAYOR, he would be an advisor to aid in the transition.

[spoosman]

I thought Giuliani was too sick to continue in public office, which is why he backed out of the senate race, handing it to hillary?

I posted on FR that someone I know sat in on a meeting with David Rockefeller and Giuliani, where Rockefeller told Giuliani to back out of the race, the seat was hillarys. This took place in November of 1999. Lo and behold, Giuliani backs out in March of 2000, citing prostate cancer, and that his weakened health forbade him from pursuing the senate. Yet today, he looks fit as a fiddle, and now wants another term as mayor.

I do not have much of an opinion about Rudy G., but I just wonder, again, what happened to the poor health that kept him from running for the Senate? Frankly, when I was told of the Novemeber meeting, I could not believe it. It blew me away when Rudy backed out.

It is a crazy story how I had become associated with this guy. Our paths have since diverged. I learned a lot from this guy. He confirmed everthing I suspected. Most of what I talk about on this site is a combination of my study of history, direct experience in the market, and the conversations I had with this client.

[sarcasm]

But we have laws about these things specifically so that we DO NOT get a mayor for life

The NYS Constitution specifically allows term extensions in time of war by vote of the Legislature.

[RoseofTexas]

Curious to know how New Yorkers are reacting to this decision? Any New Yorker out there that can give us some imput? I know Rudy has been hailed as a hero there, but to be booted out like this...wow!

[Texaggie79]

Yet today, he looks fit as a fiddle, and now wants another term as mayor.

JEEZ do you people EVER read!!! No he does not.

[kayak]

It was my understanding that Rudy's health concerns were not long-term .... the prognosis was quite good. It was that he needed to make decisions and have treatment during the height of the campaign .... and he felt that taking care of his health was the number one priority. I'm not an expert on the subject and did not sleep in a Holiday Inn last night, so someone else may have a different take on it.