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Sen. John Edwards: Intelligence Expert? Thread II on Edwards-NOT a moderate
FoxNews,MSNBC, various | Oct. 8, 2001 | Me + various

Posted on 10/08/2001 9:18:58 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

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To: Howlin
Thank you, Howlin. I did a simple search last June, wondering why he was given so much free air time by the mainstream media. After a day of research it seemed necessary to keep a serious eye on this guy. He lies - bigtime, and the media once again is giving this major league leftist a pass and supporting his Mr. Moderate act. Edwards combines Bill Clinton's schmooze-ability with Hillary's political values.

The big not-so-secret love affair with the press and the Dem. party for Edwards began when he gave what's considered the most convincing speech against the impeachment of xxx42 behind closed doors in the Senate as a freshman. He sealed their affection with his unwavering support of Gore, defending Gore in his typically divisive way (think Hillary) when any scandals surfaced and ....Edwards tells U.S. News and World Report that he thinks former President Bill Clinton will soon retake the helm of the Democratic Party. Edwards does not think Gephardt or Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle have filled Clinton's shoes. Link and more at Thread 1.

21 posted on 10/08/2001 4:04:10 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ping with the faint hope that Edwards will be gone tomorrow.
Bump.
22 posted on 10/08/2001 7:19:39 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: johnny7
I'll vote for the devil himself over Edwards. Klinton II.

Luckily, History is not on Johnny's side. The last person to go from Senate to President was JFK.

Watch Roy Barnes. He's the one to watch IMO.

23 posted on 10/08/2001 7:28:55 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: boycott
I live in NC. Edwards ran on his looks, chrisma and money against old, tired and boring Lauch Faircloth. Faircloth never had a chance. Edwards ran as a very moderate democrat and presto chango trned into a flaming liberal as soon as elected. When reelection time comes, he will campaign as a moderate again. There is no doubt the dems have big plans for him, VP or maybe the Presidential nomination. Have you noticed all the bills with his name on them? There is a reason. Edwards will be formidable, he can really be tough and still smile. I hate to say it, but he will surely be reelected I doubt any serious challenge will be forth coming. The libs in Raleigh/Durham and Charlotte love this guy.
24 posted on 10/08/2001 7:30:39 PM PDT by travmcgee
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
This is why Edwards isn't IMO the BIGGEST threat(YET)

Last Presidents.
00 - GWBush - Governor, TX
92 - Klinton - Gov, Arkansas
88 - GHWB - Reagan's VP
80 - Reagan, Gov, California
76 - Carter, Gov Georgia
74 - Ford, Appointed from VP
68 - Nixon, Eisenhower's VP
64 - LBJ , Incumbent Pres and VP
60 - JFK, Senator

The last to go from Senator to Pres was JFK. I expect someone to rist from the governor seats, epsecially from the South, and to a lesser extendt, the midwest.

However, Any Southern Democrat is a treat.

25 posted on 10/08/2001 7:35:05 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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Correction - THREAT.
26 posted on 10/08/2001 7:36:51 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: what's up
AARRRGGHHH! That was the whole reason Clinton got elected and stayed in office for 8 years! I wish women wouldn't use charisma as the litmus test for their heroes.

I completely agree with this. However, I am glad someone is aware of John Edward's charisma. We ignore that with our own peril. I think another reason Clinton was as successful as he was is that many of his critics completely ignored his abilities to charm people and thus grossly underestimated him. Let's not make the same mistake with Edwards.

27 posted on 10/08/2001 8:19:18 PM PDT by murdoog
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To: RoseofTexas
This is why women should not be allowed to vote.
28 posted on 10/08/2001 8:27:19 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: Dan from Michigan
I hope you're right. Preventive measures are called for, just in case. The Dems. are putting their money on him, that's obvious from his multiple Senate committee appointments, media support, his numerous fundraisers and campaigning efforts around the nation and even to Israel recently. He keeps claiming that he's a moderate, though his record proves the lie, and the public seems to be buying the act.

E-mail the whole Senate or House with one click

29 posted on 10/09/2001 3:05:06 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: travmcgee
The libs in Raleigh/Durham and Charlotte love this guy.

What about the decent folks across the state who were lied to during the campaign? Is there any way the NC press will write about Edward's record, how he is selling out business owners, how his own multi-million medical malpractice lawsuits helped drive up the cost of insurance and prescriptions for seniors, how his complete support of the NEA and the failing public school system hurts the children? Do the NC tobacco growers know that he accepted big campaign contributions from lawyers involved in the tobacco lawsuit, or the textile mill owners know that he's against any reforms of the costly federal regulations on business? Do the NC taxpayers know that he'd rated an "F" by the National Taxpayers Union for his tax and spend votes in the Senate? Think we can help share this info with the good people of NC in spite of the press?

30 posted on 10/09/2001 3:18:35 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Edward's record, how he is selling out business owners, how his own multi-million medical malpractice lawsuits helped drive up the cost of insurance and prescriptions for seniors, how his complete support of the NEA and the failing public school system hurts the children? Do the NC tobacco growers know that he accepted big campaign contributions from lawyers involved in the tobacco lawsuit, or the textile mill owners know that he's against any reforms of the costly federal regulations on business? Do the NC taxpayers know that he'd rated an "F" by the National Taxpayers Union for his tax and spend votes in the Senate? Think we can help share this info with the good people of NC...?

Why not a real grassroots direct mail campaign, beginning now? Surely, most North Carolinians know that he's no "security expert," as he's being paraded out to be!

His views, as stated above, and as evidenced by his strong defense of the former criminal in the White House and endorsement of Gore's failed attempt to steal the White House, need to be on the radar of the citizens of NC now, so that they can contrast his future campaign stance with the reality of who he is!

He is of the Hunt/Clinton/Gore variety. Just look at the disgraceful state of affairs in the nation right now due to Clinton/Gore's neglect, and the terrible condition of the state budget in NC left by Hunt.

These bozos out promise the folks with their hands out and "out charm" airhead females in order to set themselves up as "experts" and power brokers.

Like Clinton, he is a nobody who got picked by some elite group of political hacks because they thought he was photogenic and could talk his way through, like Clinton.

Align yourself with NCFREE, with the home school group, with NFIB, and with Right to Life, and other groups opposed to the liberal agenda. If the Republicans are savvy, they will begin building the case against him now too!!!!

31 posted on 10/09/2001 9:30:45 PM PDT by loveliberty
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To: loveliberty
Yes! A grassroots effort may be more successful than any official campaign from the Republican party. The press will not support the Republican efforts, getting ad space would be a problem and coming from the people of NC, the Dems. wouldn't be able to holler party politics and blame the "mean-spirited" Republicans.

Follow the N.C.Insider coverage of the Faircloth/Edwards race. Edwards smooth lies and divisive rhetoric angered his opponent so much that in the end Edwards appeared a sweet and reasonable man next to a bitter rival.

NC residents can and should attack him on his voting record and hypocrisy. They had nothing to go on except his word during election '98, no previous political experience to expose his true agenda.

How to get the word to the people? The press will continue to portray him as a moderate and caring champion of the people. The NC Freepers have a tough job on their hands. Any e-mail addresses for local and state NC papers, organizations would be welcome for us out-of-staters who understand the importance of getting the truth out to the NC voters and exposing Edwards.

32 posted on 10/10/2001 5:53:46 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
From time to time, over the next months, repeat your message containing the details of his record on this site and on other conservative sites, requesting NCarolinians and others to provide assistance. This needs to be an ongoing effort prior to the beginning of the next election cycle, or it will be too late.
33 posted on 10/10/2001 9:11:28 AM PDT by loveliberty
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From Thread I (and because FoxNews has the snake on again):

Winston-Salem Journal during the Dem. primary in NC: " Edwards is a charmer, who seems intent on winning votes but who seems glib discussing issues. ....", and Edwards stretches the truth in his ad campaign-Link, and here, and same old.

Edwards role during Clinton's impeachment trial (chosen by the Senate for lead role after publicly defending and attending fundraiser with Clinton during his campaign for Senate the previous year):Link, impeachment a "rocket launch" for Edwards political career, Edwards advising Arlen.

Claims he's pro-gun rights, BUT: voted for gun locks, supports the Brady Bill, ban on "semiautomatics", and background checks at gun shows.

John Edwards on Gore's "torte reform" call to Texas: "I don't think that memo means anything," Edwards said on Fox. "Al Gore isn't involved. He never made the call." Link (a porn site).

Sen. Edwards hosts fundraiser for Sen. Cantwell while pushing for Camp. Finance Reform, and here. Both Cantwell and Edwards campaigned on "not accepting PAC money."

Sponsors the "Patients Bill of Rights"..but on bills that could hurt his home state tobacco growers: "We don't need the federal government sticking its nose into that," and here, accepts donations from anti-tobacco trial lawyers.

34 posted on 10/10/2001 10:06:22 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Scalia Against Ergonomics Law

Democrats on the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee appeared to be solidly against Scalia, who has criticized ergonomics and Clinton-era regulations as "quackery" and "junk science."

Scalia was pressed by Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C., to admit he has represented just two workers in his 10-year labor law career, which has focused mostly on corporate clients.

Edwards said he questioned whether Scalia has the "necessary empathy for workers in order to adequately and properly represent them."


Edwards successes in his medical malpractice suits rely mainly on emotional manipulation of the jury, "quackery" and "junk science."
35 posted on 10/13/2001 5:49:50 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: RoseofTexas
Gov Rick Perry is better looking ?
36 posted on 10/20/2001 3:20:18 PM PDT by Dallas
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To: *Old_North_State
For the NC ping list. (^:
37 posted on 11/13/2001 1:51:03 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Hey, thanks for that ping to the NC list.
I've been kind of busy & haven't checked it lately.

FRegards,
CD

38 posted on 12/03/2001 10:37:03 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day
You're very welcome. Thank you for the NC list and the NC Freepers' efforts. (^:
39 posted on 12/03/2001 3:25:44 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Aw, shucks, ma'am, t'ain't nothin...

8^)

40 posted on 12/03/2001 5:32:33 PM PST by Constitution Day
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