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This war is not about terror, it's about Islam
The Sunday Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 10/07/2001 | David Selbourne

Posted on 10/06/2001 5:14:11 PM PDT by Pokey78

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To: Anonymous2
the nwo and its number one ally, islam.

I think that conspiracy theories about the NWO are hilarious enough without claiming that the NWO is planning to use radical Islam to conquer us, and then control it when they are done with it. The NWO theories already require super-human intelligence and god-like powers on the part of the conspirators, but to advance the proposition that they also can control the likes of One-Eyed Omar is straight from Alpha Centauri.


41 posted on 10/06/2001 8:18:21 PM PDT by Nick Danger
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To: Pokey78
BINGO !!!
42 posted on 10/06/2001 8:33:02 PM PDT by KQQL
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To: ZULU
ditto.....

In every war, the first casualty is said to be truth. In this one, our politicians have not even begun to admit to us what it is really about.

Let the wars begin.....

43 posted on 10/06/2001 8:39:30 PM PDT by KQQL
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To: Pokey78
I've been to Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Oman, Bahrain, Iran, Pakistan, and a few other Muslim spots over there.

I understand almost all of them hate us; many of them want to destroy western civilization; many of them want to kill us, gang-rape our daughters, enslave our sons, and impose their vision of Islamic utopia upon the unenlightened masses world-wide. (In all fairness, there might be five or six muslims living in the U.S. who don't really feel that way about us.)

They're almost as big a threat to us as ALL the Democrats, half the Republicans, all the statist bureacrats, and all the other home-grown aspiring tyrant-wannabees.

But we can work with these people; we can negotiate with them -- get them to see the benefits of living in a democracy (where you only have to brainwash 50 percent plus one to get your way, on their dime). We can show them how to establish a system where you don't have to personally get involved when you want someone dead: you just join the majority party, then send out professional guys-with-guns to burn and pillage in the name of the majority. You can demonize your enemies beforehand to generate a positive media image for the campaign, limit the targets to the small groups and individuals on your list, then move on to other groups and individuals as needed.

It's so immature and unprofessional to blow up people and buildings indiscriminately, without the proper segregating and demonizing required for nearly full public support for your actions. These Jihad critters have so much to learn about this business.

44 posted on 10/06/2001 8:42:37 PM PDT by meadsjn
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It's so immature and unprofessional to blow up people and buildings indiscriminately, without the proper segregating and demonizing required for nearly full public support for your actions. These Jihad critters have so much to learn about this business.

I have to congratulate you for writing the single most cynical thing I have ever read

45 posted on 10/06/2001 8:45:54 PM PDT by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
Coming from a New Yorker, I'll have to take that as a compliment. <;-)

We were very much impressed with the extraordinary response of the ordinary people of New York after the disasters.

God Bless Americans.

46 posted on 10/06/2001 8:55:48 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Anamensis
Why, just today, I heard the President remark what a religion of compassion, peace, and moderation Islam is.

Oh, I know! As long as you do exactly what they tell you, they really are the nicest folks you'll ever be assassinated by!

ROTFL!

47 posted on 10/06/2001 9:04:14 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: kosta50
But the fact is the the OT treats women as gullable and guilty of sin just as the Koran does.

I must have read a different Bible!

48 posted on 10/06/2001 9:15:23 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW
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To: meadsjn
But we can work with these people; we can negotiate with them -- get them to see the benefits of living in a democracy (where you only have to brainwash 50 percent plus one to get your way, on their dime).

I hate to burst your bubble, but these terrorists have been living in western democracies for years--England, France, Germany, and the US, just counting the time until they can set off the next bomb. Tasting and experiencing freedom first hand didn't even help them see the light. It only made them hate us more. As Ken Hamblin often says, two diametrically opposed cultures cannot occupy the same space. I have no intention of giving them mine.

49 posted on 10/06/2001 9:19:34 PM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: Nick Danger
well, whatever helps *you* sleep.
51 posted on 10/06/2001 9:49:47 PM PDT by Anonymous2
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To: Pokey78
Generally, I find this article dead-on. But something in the following passage just doesn't seem to fit.

Islamophobia has exacted a brutal toll in reprisal for Islamic violence. This includes the shooting down by the US of an Iranian airliner in July 1998, the assassinations carried out by the Israelis, the savaging of Muslim Chechnya by the Russians, the hangings of Islamists in Xinjiang by the Chinese - still continuing - the coalition turkey-shoot of the Iraqi army after its retreat from Kuwait and the near-genocide of Muslims in Bosnia.

52 posted on 10/06/2001 9:55:13 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: Anonymous2
well, whatever helps *you* sleep.

The thing that's going to help me sleep is not going to happen until a lot more people come to the realization that Mr. Selbourne is speaking the ugly truth. I'm afraid that we're about a dozen attacks and a million dead away from coming to that realization. Even then, I wonder if we'll have the stomach for what must be done.

53 posted on 10/06/2001 10:00:18 PM PDT by Nick Danger
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To: Nick Danger
Really!
54 posted on 10/06/2001 10:03:18 PM PDT by mercy
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To: Pokey78
The worst thing about blaming anything on any religion, is your giving the psychopaths a reason for what they are doing.

People are in effect saying about bin laden "It's okay, he's Islamic, it's what he has to do, it's his religion".

IT'S NOT OKAY!!!! The man is a psychopath!

When Christians blow up abortion clinics or federal buildings with daycare centers, people aren't saying "oh it says in the bible that one must blow up abortion clinics". People label these nuts as pyschopaths and terrorists, and you have to do the same with bin laden and the talliban, okay?? You can't blame it on their religion, because your giving them an excuse to do what they do.

55 posted on 10/06/2001 10:11:49 PM PDT by texlok
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To: Lion's Cub
I hate to burst your bubble, but these terrorists have been living in western democracies for years--England, France, Germany, and the US, just counting the time until they can set off the next bomb. Tasting and experiencing freedom first hand didn't even help them see the light. It only made them hate us more.

I have no such bubble to burst.

I know they have been coming here, and to Europe, in droves for many years. Basic arithmetic would suggest that thousands of Really Bad Guys (TM) are included in those millions.

Aside from them, we also have tons of native-born critters, from both sides of the political aisle, who hate America and the U.S. Constitution as much as Islam does. That is the point I was trying to make. Sorry you missed it.

56 posted on 10/06/2001 10:13:05 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Urbane_Guerilla; meadsjn
I have to congratulate you for writing the single most cynical thing I have ever read

LOL. It seems the more years that pass, the more cynical I get. Or could it be termed wisdom

57 posted on 10/06/2001 10:17:37 PM PDT by jmp702
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To: meadsjn
. That is the point I was trying to make. Sorry you missed it.

My bad :( Sorry.

58 posted on 10/06/2001 11:39:57 PM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: DJ MacWoW
Genesis, Ch.3
59 posted on 10/07/2001 7:14:19 AM PDT by kosta50
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To: Hamza01
Ever read the Old Testament, bud? Or, the Talmud? Even the devil can quote scripture for his own purposes

The OT and Talmud are a must reading too. Too many things from there are not very compatible with the Christian way of thinking either.

However, the difference between the OT and the Koran are apples and oranges.

But why take my word for it? Let me give our less informed readers a "taste" of this (under the heading the Ultimatum):

Sura 9

[9:5] Once the Sacred Months are past, (and they refuse to make peace) you may kill the idol worshipers when you encounter them, punish them, and resist every move they make. If they repent and observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat), you shall let them go. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

[9:111] GOD has bought from the believers their lives and their money in exchange for Paradise. Thus, they fight in the cause of GOD, willing to kill and get killed. Such is His truthful pledge in the Torah, the Gospel, and the Quran - and who fulfills His pledge better than GOD? You shall rejoice in making such an exchange. This is the greatest triumph.

Gospel teaches to kill in the cause of God? Speaking of the devil...

60 posted on 10/07/2001 7:36:22 AM PDT by kosta50
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