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America's Most Justified War
StopDemocrats.com ^ | September 30, 2001 | Carlos Leon

Posted on 09/30/2001 9:28:44 PM PDT by Cuban123

America's Most Justified War
Carlos Leon

America has been involved in many wars throughout it's history. From the Revolutionary War when the Americans fought the British to the war in Serbia in 1999 when the U.S. together with NATO fought Slobodan Milosevic. Every war that America has fought is arguable to some people. Benedit Arnold became a traitor in the Revolutionary War when he committed treason against the US and one of the biggest questions about World War II is if Harry Truman did the right thing by dropping the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan. Conservative commentator Pat Buchanan said "If the United States is going to behave as a Roman empire, a global empire, what we saw at the Trade Center is the beginning of the price of trying to uphold that empire" in response to the fact that the US has contributed to foreign wars, Walter Conkrite said "'I think it's time for us to say we've done the best we could-money, materials, the blood of our soldiers have all gone into this effort ... we should seek an honorable peace" after coming back to the states after reporting from Vietnam on one of his national broadcasts on CBS, and most recently Liberal Representative Barbara Lee of California said "some of us must urge the use of restraint" and voted against giving President Bush the power to declare war. All of these people have not agreed with American actions regarding war. But the war that was started at 8:45 am Eastern time on September 11 in New York, the war that was declared on America on that day of infamy, is a war that should have no dissent because this new war is America's most justified war.

Those, like the ignorant Marxists that On September 29 protested the war in Washington and New York (of all places!), have to understand that this war that we are fighting is necessary. We are not intervening in some foreign land where we have some sort of interest (like oil in Kuwait) or helping some foreign group topple a dictatorship (like the Contras in Nicaragua in the 1980's). We are retaliating against a barbaric act on AMERICAN soil, against AMERICAN civilians, against AMERICAN landmarks, against America as a society and America as a nation. This event has never occurred in American history. The closest to it was Pearl Harbor when Japan ordered the bombing of the military instalation and killed 2,403 American servicemen. The toll in New York is already 5,219 (as of September 30) and this does not include the other 180 killed in the Pentagon, the 45 killed in the field in Pennsylvania, and the fact that among the victims there are both military personnel as well as civilians.

Many people argue that America will be seen as cruel if we bomb Afghanistan. That the goal of this war is to get rid of the terrorists and not a government. That it's impossible for President Bush to declare war when a country has not declared war on us. But the fact is that Afghanistan ,represented by the Taliban, has painted a very large target on itself for the past two weeks. While almost the entire world, both allies as close as Britain and former enemies as far as Russia and China, aligned itself with the United States, the Taliban sent a threat to the Arab world telling the countries that if they helped the United States in this war, they would declare war on them. The Taliban also rejected various requests by one of their closest allies, Pakistan, to hand over bin-Laden during several meetings. If the United States government never singled out Afghanistan as a terrorist state and never blamed them for anything, in fact the State Department did not include them as one of the seven countries that support terrorism in their 2000 report on States that sponsor terrorism, then why have they been so supportive of Osama bin Laden and why have they refused ,in such a vehement way, to help the US? Is it because they support Osama bin Laden and they support and harbor terrorism?, of course.

The Left argues that war will not resolve anything because Osama bin Laden is not the only terrorist and that by getting rid of him terrorism will not end. There is no doubt that terrorism will continue even if the US captures and kills Osama bin Landen but the question is to what extent. By getting rid of Osama bin Laden you are sucking out the air of the terrorist movement which bin Laden runs (al-Qaida). He isn't just a Saudi-born Millionaire who decided to slam a handful of airplanes into important American landmarks because he woke up one morning and felt like it. He is the leader of a world-wide terrorist network that bombed U.S. embassies in Tanzania and Kenya in 1998, bombed the World Trade Center in 1993, and blew up the USS Cole last year. This is a man worth millions of dollars that has set up terrorist training camps around the world since 1979 where he trains, feeds, and shelters these terrorists that are full of hate. By getting rid of him, you are getting rid of the leader a movement, the same way the Holocaust ended because Hitler was defeated, the Soviet Union broke up because Gorbachev resigned, Yugoslavia became a democracy after Milosevic was ousted by the people, and Peru rebuilt it's Democratic government after Alberto Fujimori was taken out of power for corruption. Anti-semitism still exists in Europe and elsewhere, Socialist politicians still get elected in some countries, and corruption still exists in Peru, but these things do not exist to the level that existed when these leaders were there.

This war that America is now in will be long and hard. It will affect the way Americans live, security at airports, military spending, security at major events, invasion of privacy issues, ect. This is why we must support the war whether the government uses diplomatic or military force. Americans cannot stand around and ask for "peace" while Osama bin Laden is planning more attacks against us. America must wake up to the fact that if we do not defend ourselves and show strong force against the terrorists and the countries that harbor them they will defeat us. We must support this war for the victims; the children, the firefighters, the rescue workers, the newly born baby named Hope that was not able to meet her father, the women that was unable to get married with her fiance, the man that lost both his sister and niece, and for America, because it is for these people and for this country that we must support this new war against terror, America's most justified war.

Carlos Leon is an 18 year old Cuban-American student. He is also the editor and founder of StopDemocrats.com, a conservative website.


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To: Cuban123
For those Christians in this forum. I have a few words to say to you. Why are we becoming that which we fear? Why should we terrorize a population already on the break of colaspe? Lets Be God's healing Arms and Scream for Justice, Peace, and Mercy? We have what we want. Law, Grace, and keep Jesus as our Prince of Peace. Otherwise do we become children of the Prince of Darkeness(Terrorists our selves)?

Let us let our Special Forces capture Ben Laden, pray for this to happen. Then let us be Jesus' Loving Arms.

Don't let the Enemy Distroy America. Embrass your Enemy, the ones who love Peace. And then tell them you fear Lawlessness. Cause Lawlessness becomes Terrorism. We need both sides. We need the conscience(mercy) that the Liberals give and they need the Law we can give. Lets be God healing Hands, not Satans hands of Death and Distruction.

41 posted on 10/01/2001 12:16:38 AM PDT by LadyForLiberty
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To: LadyForLiberty
Why should we terrorize a population already on the break of colaspe?(sic)

We're not, so don't worry about it.

42 posted on 10/01/2001 12:33:20 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: Yellow Rose of Texas
Excellent analysis especially from one so young. He gets it. Afghanistan is a living "Lord of the Flies". The children are in charge with no adults in sight. We have to be the adults that bring their reign of terror to an end, now and forever

i agree..its about time more younger guys like him and myself(im 18 too) to step up and voice his opinion

43 posted on 10/01/2001 12:39:14 AM PDT by MetalHeadConservative35
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To: Layth
Folks, this Layth is a fake. He purports to be an Arab, then identifies Saddam Hussein as an Arab dictator. What a dummy. He is probably still in high school, and has never seen a camel.
44 posted on 10/01/2001 1:19:54 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: Layth
trial??? hahahahahaha!!! no way... he should not live 5 minutes after they flush him from the hole.
45 posted on 10/01/2001 1:30:42 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Layth
our government builds target dummies all the time..... you might be one someday
46 posted on 10/01/2001 1:32:34 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Layth
ya... a saudi accusing the US of racism and sexism... thats really funny.
47 posted on 10/01/2001 1:33:48 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
To tell the truth I am sick of diversity and tolerance. We ought to resurrect an empire of English speaking nations and shove civilisation down their throats - left to their own devices these countries just snap at us like asps in a basket.

The Americans should bomb the Saudis with Coca Cola, rock and roll, blue jeans and Nikes. The British should pry their jaws open and pour Edradour single malt whiskey down their gullets and force them to listen to the Rolling Stones. Enough of this crap - we should make them civilised whether they like it or not.

Oh yes, and blow up Mecca like we blew up the Reich Chancellery.

Regards, Ivan

FreeBritannia.co.uk
48 posted on 10/01/2001 1:41:12 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan, -- ALL --
Layth was shown the door, but I decided to leave his tracks here for comment by others.
49 posted on 10/01/2001 1:44:29 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
On second thought - those comments stink too much.
50 posted on 10/01/2001 1:45:53 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
Well act as patriotism requires. ;) It is almost too easy to hit his comments, rather like playing footie against drunken midgets. ;)

Regards, Ivan
51 posted on 10/01/2001 1:51:32 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
To tell the truth I am sick of diversity and tolerance. We ought to resurrect an empire of English speaking nations and shove civilisation down their throats - left to their own devices these countries just snap at us like asps in a basket.

The Americans should bomb the Saudis with Coca Cola, rock and roll, blue jeans and Nikes. The British should pry their jaws open and pour Edradour single malt whiskey down their gullets and force them to listen to the Rolling Stones. Enough of this crap - we should make them civilised whether they like it or not.

Oh yes, and blow up Mecca like we blew up the Reich Chancellery.

Tsk, tsk, tsk, Ivan. Such Western arrogance and intolerance!

I LOVE IT! Great ideas, let the age of Anglo-American dominance begin.

52 posted on 10/01/2001 1:53:44 AM PDT by StoneColdGOP
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To: MadIvan
To tell the truth I am sick of diversity and tolerance. We ought to resurrect an empire of English speaking nations and shove civilisation down their throats - left to their own devices these countries just snap at us like asps in a basket.

The Americans should bomb the Saudis with Coca Cola, rock and roll, blue jeans and Nikes. The British should pry their jaws open and pour Edradour single malt whiskey down their gullets and force them to listen to the Rolling Stones. Enough of this crap - we should make them civilised whether they like it or not.

Oh yes, and blow up Mecca like we blew up the Reich Chancellery.

I see, so you would want to become the mirror image of the terrorists?

53 posted on 10/01/2001 1:59:19 AM PDT by bluester
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To: StoneColdGOP
No one has ever given me a sufficient reason as to why we ought to accept "diversity" and "tolerance" - I put those words in quotes because they never imply tolerance for my culture and diversity outside a leftist political orthodoxy.

I remember really attacking the shite out of an American liberal when I was in Washington DC - she had been in charge of a "busing" programme - taking suburban kids into the inner city and kids from the inner city out to the suburbs. To her it seemed blindingly obvious that she had a right to decide that there ought to be a "mix". I basically told her she had no damn right to play social experiments - her job was to ensure that the kids received an education, i.e., providing a curriculum that taught the kids to think, not forced them to adhere to her leftist orthodoxy. Whether kids get on or not was not her affair. She was horrified, she couldn't believe, probably, my sheer rage at her for playing God, and second that I dared question her right to do it.

Our leftist elites have for so long shoved this type of arrogance down our throat. Look at where it has gotten us. It is time to push right back.

Regards, Ivan
54 posted on 10/01/2001 2:03:56 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: bluester
You are assuming that using the values of a civilised society are appropriate for dealing with people who are uncivilised. They will neither respect us for it, nor give us peace - all they understand is a show of force. Well then, they should get it, a lesson that their posterity will remember in fear and dread.

Ivan
55 posted on 10/01/2001 2:05:43 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Are you telling me that we're civilized while they (Muslims, Arabs) are not? That we are in some way superior compared to them? Clash of civilizations? I really hoped it wouldn't come to this point, "good" vs "evil".

MadIvan, if we start thinking and acting like that, then there's nothing good ahead us. IMHO

56 posted on 10/01/2001 2:15:52 AM PDT by bluester
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To: bluester
The terrorists hijacked planes full of innocent people and smashed them into large buildings with even more innocent people in them to kill as many innocent people as possible.

What further qualifications for their barbarity do you require? What more outrages do they need to commit before you submit to the truth that we in America and Europe do represent a higher standard of behaviour and civilisation?

A vigourous defence of that civilisation is what is called for, not some whingeing about moral equivalence.

Ivan
57 posted on 10/01/2001 2:21:28 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Yes, but you are talking about terrorists, not Muslims in general, I hope. Unless you mean by "they" Muslims, that they are all potential terrorists and that we should fear them all?

This is not about being politically correct, this is about being fair and objective. You cannot blame a whole religion for the actions of some fanatic suicidal terrorists, and say that they should all be bombed, just because the terrorists were of their religion.

58 posted on 10/01/2001 2:58:30 AM PDT by bluester
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To: bluester
I don't blame all Muslims. I do however blame countries that actually have the bloody nerve to get out and celebrate the WTC attack, as they did in Egypt. I do however blame countries that get in the way of punishing those responsible. And largely, these are Arab / Muslim nations, stuck in feudalism and barbarity that are presenting this obstacle, and indeed, helping our enemies. Destroy them.

Regards, Ivan
59 posted on 10/01/2001 4:06:41 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Cuban123
Mr. Leon, I wish I wrote as well when I was eighteen.
60 posted on 10/01/2001 4:28:40 AM PDT by Mortimer Snavely
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