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Coincidence? Islamic Calendar Depicts Civilian Jet Hitting Manhattan for September
NewsMax ^ | 27 September 2001

Posted on 09/27/2001 11:42:45 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Coincidence?
Islamic Calendar Depicts Civilian Jet Hitting Manhattan for September

Report: Calendar Showed Plane Crashing Near Manhattan

NewsMax Wires

Thursday, Sept. 27, 2001

A calendar (see picture below) which was printed in Egypt and shows a crashing passenger plane with Manhattan and the Statue of Liberty as a backdrop -- and which was printed in May, a full three months before the September 11 Terrorist Attacks on America -- has caused an uproar in the Dutch town of Almere, Netherlands de Telegraaf newspaper reported yesterday.

The calendar was distributed at an Islamic school long before the World Trade Center attacks. Mayor Hans Ouwerkerk, who was alerted to the calendar's existence in the local islamic school in the town of Almere, immediately notified the Dutch internal security service (BVD) about the strange coincidence. The BVD is reportedly investigating the matter.

"I am supported by Allah, to die for Allah" was quoted on the calendar, the same words reportedly used by an Egypt-Air pilot who allegedly crashed a jet in November of 1999.

The Almere town council has "urgently advised" the management of the Islamic School Foundation to "cooperate with the Dutch authorities and help determine the calender's origin."

Deputy mayor Henk Smeeman said the distribution of such controversial islamic-extremist fundamentalist propaganda material "cannot be tolerated in Almere. The town council is a strong supporter of maintaining good intercultural relationships with one another," he said. On the calendar's other illustrations, a stone-throwing Palestinian demonstrator is shown in front of the Al-Aksa mosque in Jerusalem,; others feature an Egyptian military assault during the six-day war against Israel, and another picture shows a futuristic image of a Palestinian "freeing" of Jerusalem.

The head of the Islamic school -- Mrs Dekker -- alleged had a large number of calenders in her possession from end May to the start of June, well-informed sources informed De Telegraaf. When confronted with the calender images, she responded in a shocked, startled manner and said "how did you get this" and then shrouded herself in silence when further questioned by journalists.

De Telegraaf also reported today that Dutch authorities abruptly closed the major traffic arteries into Rotterdam and Amsterdam through four river tunnels -- in immediate response to a highly detailed letter to the Dutch news agency ANP which described the exact times, (8:10am); the colour and type of vehicles which would have been used in a closely-timed wave of suicide attacks at the hight of rush hour at two of the world's busiest harbour cities.

Dutch police arrested a large number of individuals who had been identified by the anonymous tipster, who also warned that a great many other terrorist attacks would be carried out worldwide.If these riverine tunnels had collapsed, this would have meant the immediate closure of these busy international harbours and seriously disrupted international trade.


Islamic Calendar for Sept. 2001
Jet hitting lower Manhattan

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To: katze
This reminds me of the story that circulated about a book that came out a couple of years before the Titanic went down. The book ship hit an iceburg and the name of the ship was the Titan. It's supposed to be true but I would think some publishing house would resurrect the book and play up the coincidence.
141 posted on 11/13/2001 6:17:31 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: Shooter 2.5
#141 Coincidence? ;-)

Whatever, this is an interesting fact; thanks. I need to check out Post #60, too. Keep posting this good info, pls.

142 posted on 11/13/2001 6:22:43 PM PST by katze
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To: Fred25
The bright white spot in the upper left might not represent the sun, but the original explosion of Flight 800.

Why couldn't this be a depiction of EA990 going down?

Where do these guys get this 'hitting a building' stuff?

Looks to me like this bird is injured and about to go down ...

Has anyone paired-up the buildings shown here with what may be standing in various middle-eastern countries?

143 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:56 PM PST by _Jim
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To: _Jim
In the small version of the painting, first posted here, the center clouds look a lot like smoke, and the “smoke” seems to be coming from the general area of where the WTC buildings were. The “bright spot” in the upper left looks like the sun.

SMALL VERSION

But in the larger version, posted later, the “smoke” looks like a dark cloud, and the “sun” looks to me like an explosion in the air, with the series of white dots showing the path of the airplane, after the explosion in the air. Since the Egypt Air flight did not explode in the air or go down in flames, I’m thinking this might be a painting of flight 800, or (which is very likely) this is just an artist’s “interpretation” of the Egypt Air crash.

Note that the Statue of Liberty is out of place, so this seems to be a general “symbolic” NY skyline.

LARGE VERSION

144 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:15 PM PST by Fred25
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To: Fred25
uhh ... why is it a NY skyline?

Looks kinda like skylines seen near the water's edge in several locales on this planet (exc for what only suggests may be the S-O-L) ...

It it that the conspiracy theorists *want* us to think 'NY'?

It *seems* to me that an Islamic calendar just might be remembering an EA flight, after all who would possible be FLYING to Egypt (I don't recall specifically just where this flight was heading)?

I think they're remembering EA990 ... the conspiracy theorists among us (YOU know who you are) are simply trying, once again, to co-opt this into their usual conspiracy-spin.

145 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:23 PM PST by _Jim
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To: _Jim
uhh ... why is it a NY skyline?

Because no other skyline has a Statue of Liberty.

146 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:24 PM PST by Fred25
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To: _Jim
Have you seen this one?
147 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:37 PM PST by Fred25
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To: Fred25
on another forum.

They were saying that those ballons meant the start of war. which did happen in october.

The WTC diaster in september also happened as depicted by the plane crashing on a NYC skyline. Notice the sun, 9/11 was a nice sunny day (which was probably needed by the terroists to fly the planes in the first place)

Now November's image looks more terrifying. In the top right hand corner is what looks like a mushroom cloud from a nuclear explosion.

Just my 2p
148 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:41 PM PST by widgysoft
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To: Fred25
Because no other skyline has a Statue of Liberty.

I covered that base in my previous reply ... BUT - you're assuming the locale based on the statue and ignoring the principle that the S-O-L suggests ... it also appears to be a veiled woman ala 'Taliban suggested woman's dress' replete with full facial covering ...

BTW - that looks to be a departing flight from the city not a flight into the city (hence my repeated suggestion that it is EA990 remembered and NOT as the conspiracy minded around us would forever in undying repetition suggest) ...

149 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:44 PM PST by _Jim
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To: Fred25
Have you seen this one?

Seen it - dismissed it (it's NOT, of course, even one of the WTC towers).

I *wonder* how many ordinary pictures I could turn into conspiracy-oriented stuff if I put my mind to it ...

150 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:45 PM PST by _Jim
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To: _Jim
... it also appears to be a veiled woman ala 'Taliban suggested woman's dress' replete with full facial covering ...

That’s a French “Liberty” outfit if ever I saw one. That’s the Statue of Liberty in the painting. She’s holding a raised torch in her right hand, there are “rays” sticking out of her headdress, and she’s holding the book in her left arm. Your eyes must be going bad.

This is an “artist’s composite”, a montage of a crash and the NY skyline. When I worked as a magazine editor, I worked with an art director to make things like this up so we could get a lot of stuff in one drawing. This probably represents the Egypt Air crash, but the explosion and flames were probably added from the Flight 800 crash for “artistic effect”. The wing tip hitting the water reminds me of video of that crash off the coast of Africa about 5 years ago. The Statue of Liberty was merely moved so it would fit into the picture. The buildings are probably not any particular real buildings, just a mix of Manhattan-type buildings on the skyline.

THE REAL SKYLINE

I remember when I worked for the magazine, there is something in the.... I think it’s the copyright law or some other law that says that commercial artists can’t copy buildings exactly without the permission of the owner of the building. That might be part of international law too. That’s probably why the WTC towers are covered up by the low cloud. Also, that's probably why the building painted in the eyeglasses ad is a simulation of a Manhattan-type building, but it’s not a painting of a real building. It looks a little like the Empire State Building, but it’s not.

151 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:02 PM PST by Fred25
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To: Fred25
Where do you get the hint of WTC towers?

I attribute that to the 'power of suggestion' - which is nearly all the conspiracy theorists have to work with ...

The suggestion being - if it involves NYC then it MUST by default also involve the WTC (somehow, miraculously and always) ...

152 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:29 PM PST by _Jim
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To: _Jim
Where do you get the hint of WTC towers?

I attribute that to the 'power of suggestion' -

EXACTLY! There are no WTC towers in the painting. This is a painting that is supposed to look like lower Manhattan as seen from the South, from either Governor’s Island or Brooklyn Heights, but with no specific buildings being depicted. The area where the WTC towers “should be” is covered up by clouds. They aren’t there, but the Statue of Liberty is. The Statue is what makes it New York, not Cairo, London, or Paris. I never said “it involves the WTC”. I said this painting is about either the Egypt Air crash or the Flight 800 crash. Since this is an Egyptian calendar, I would say this is supposed to depict the Egypt Air crash, in an “artist’s conception” montage.

STATUE OF LIBERTY IN PAINTING (note folds in dress)

STATUE OF LIBERTY PHOTO (note folds in dress)

153 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:46 PM PST by Fred25
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To: Fred25
Since this is an Egyptian calendar, I would say this is supposed to depict the Egypt Air crash, in an “artist’s conception” montage.

Well, Fred, I'm glad to hear you say that -

- even if I had to drag you and the the entire FR site along to that conclusion kicking and screaming the entire way ...

154 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:40 PM PST by _Jim
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To: _Jim
Exactly when did flight 990 explode and catch on fire?
155 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:57 PM PST by Fred25
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To: Fred25
Exactly when did flight 990 explode and catch on fire?

At the point, I presume, where breakup of the airframe took place (if at all - approx 16,000 feet) ...

Check the charts in this thread:

http://206.112.97.70/focus/fr/571151/posts

156 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:59 PM PST by _Jim
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To: _Jim
1.14 Fire. Very few pieces of wreckage have been recovered; no signs of fire have been found yet.

LINK

157 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:03 PM PST by Fred25
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To: CounterCounterCulture; davidosborne
From The Great Heresies by Hilaire Belloc

Chapter 4: The Great and Enduring Heresy of Mohammed

The last effort they [Islam] made to destroy Christendom was contemporary with the end of the reign of Charles II in England and of his brother James and of the usurper William III. It failed during the last years of the seventeeth century, only just over two hundred years ago. Vienna, as we saw, was almost taken and saved by the Christian army under the command of the King of Poland on a date that ought to be among the most famous in history-- September 11, 1683.

The Great Heresies by Hilaire Belloc (Sheed and ward, 1938), pg. 70-71.

158 posted on 01/06/2002 11:47:15 PM PST by Pericles
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To: Pericles
FACINATING.. thanks for that info....


159 posted on 01/06/2002 11:56:30 PM PST by davidosborne
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To: davidosborne

160 posted on 01/07/2002 12:01:10 AM PST by Pericles
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