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To: Anonymous2
Is it propaganda, or is it news? Are these things NOT true? Is it NOT true that we have engendered a great deal of resentment in the Arab world? And is this not one reason why?

If you don't like the truth, don't blame me.

21 posted on 09/27/2001 10:04:35 AM PDT by Illbay
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'Palestinians See Themselves In Islamic War Against The West'

Jerusalem (CNSNews.com)


- While President Bush has declared that America's war on terrorism should not be misconstrued as a battle between the West and Islam, the Palestinians, nevertheless, sees itself in such a war, said the director of an independent media watchdog organization.

Based on reports in their own media and in school textbooks, the Palestinian Authority sees the Palestinians as part of the larger Islamic community, which is waging a war against the West, said Itamar Marcus, director of the Jerusalem-based Palestinian Media Watch.

PA Chairman Yasser Arafat has declared himself to be on the side of the U.S. in its war against terror, but Marcus, whose organization has been monitoring the PA press and media on the topic for the last four years, says it is not true.

"[The Palestinians are] trying to create this perception that they're supporters of America. It is not true," Marcus said in an interview.

"They have been viciously hating for years and they've taught people to hate America ... That's why everyone went out in the street and celebrated [when the World Trade Towers and Pentagon were attacked] because they had been getting so much anti-American [material]," he said.

A cartoon in the largest circulation daily in the PA, Al-Quds, on September 22, showed a blind-folded President Bush, holding up a bloodied dagger in one hand and a broken scale of justice in the other, captioned "Infinite Justice."

But according to PMW translations of the PA press and media, as far back as 1997, PA officials and official PA newspapers were recorded as displaying anti-American sentiments.

In a compendium of hatred against America, compiled after the September 11 attacks from their previous records, PMW lists 41 cases of strong Anti-American sentiments in 1997 alone ranging from the burning of American flags at a PA-sponsored rally to calls for the destruction of the U.S. by PA officials.

The PA-appointed Mufti (Islamic religious leader) of the PA Ikrima Sabri called on Allah to "destroy America as it is controlled by Zionist Jews."

"Allah will avenge, in the name of his Prophet, the colonialist settlers who are the descendents of monkeys and pigs," he said on the Voice of Palestine radio in July 1997.

Sabri was questioned by the Israeli police shortly after September 11 this year for having called for the destruction of America in a sermon in the weeks leading up to the attacks.

Hafez Al-Barghuti, the editor of the PA's official newspaper Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, wrote that history "does not remember the United States, but it remembers Iraq, the cradle of civilization, and Palestine, the cradle of religions.

"History remembers every piece of Arab land, because it is the bosom of human civilization. On the other hand, the murderers of humanity, the creators of the barbaric culture and the bloodsuckers of nations, are doomed to death and destined to shrink to a microscopic size, like Micronesia," he concluded.

Later, in November of 2000, a survey conducted by the Program for Educational Development of Beir Zeit University, in Ramallah showed that 73 percent of Palestinians supported military action against American targets in the region, including suicide missions against American interests in the Middle East.

Al Hayat Al Jadida, which published the poll noted that, "it is interesting that the support for the attacks against American targets among academics reached 77 percent compared to 70 percent among illiterates."

"The message that we're trying to get out is that Americans should understand the Palestinians see themselves in a global war of Islam against the West," Marcus said, citing two passages from PA published textbooks, which say that Islam will conquer the West.

"We do not claim that the collapse of Western civilization, and the transfer of the center of civilization to us [Islam] will happen in the next decade or two or even in fifty years, for the rise and fall of civilizations follow natural processes," says an eleventh grade textbook, Some Outstanding Examples of Our Civilization.

"Even when the foundations of a fortress become cracked it still appears ... to be at the peak of its strength. Nevertheless [Western civilization] has begun to collapse and to become a pile of rubble," it continued.

"Since the beginning of our reawakening ...We awoke to a painful reality and oppressive imperialism and we drove it out of some of our lands and we are about to drive it from the rest," the text concludes.

A seventh grade Islamic education book says that "Islam, the true religion ... will defeat all other religions and it will be disseminated, by Allah's will, through the Muslim Jihad fighters."

Marcus stresses that although America does not see its current battle as a war against Islam, the Islamic people themselves have "defined it as Islam's war against the West."

"This is a war against the Judeo-Christian tradition and Allah has guaranteed that they will defeat the West. This is what they're telling their people," he added.

Marcus said two years ago his organization had already published a report on Islam's war against the West based on PA textbooks, but people tend not to take note until after the fact.

"Everything was written. People just haven't been listening to what's been said," he said.

"People see the world through their own glasses," Marcus said. "We don't want to destroy other people, [so] why would other people want to destroy us? ... We cannot imagine why somebody would want to destroy America or destroy Israel

 


25 posted on 09/27/2001 10:31:50 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Illbay
"Is it NOT true that we have engendered a great deal of resentment in the Arab world? And is this not one reason why?"

Of course it's true we are resented by the Arab world. The successful are generally resented by the unsuccesful.

We were also resented by the Japanese and Germans in 1941, the Russians for most of the 20th Century, and the Iraqis in 1990.

We were resented by the Indians when we imigrated here from Europe. The Southerners resented the Northerners, especially in the 1860s (especially during the North's invasion of the South).

The Mexicans resented us in the 1830s when we invaded their territory, defeated Santa Ana in a series of battles and captured Mexico City.

Finally, I resent your obtuseness, lack of historical knowledge, and support of the enemies who have just killed 7,000 of us in a sneak attack on civilian men, women and children. And then you have the gall go actually post on this website.

You are a moral and intellectual cretin.

Love and peace.

26 posted on 09/27/2001 10:42:35 AM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: Illbay
i'm sorry, what was that? i was taking an illbay and ran out of tp to wipe my muslim.
27 posted on 09/27/2001 10:53:10 AM PDT by Anonymous2
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To: Illbay
If we engender resentment among anyone for doing the right thing, it doesn't bother me. Why does it bother you?

Stick to NASCAR threads. You know more and make more friends there.

31 posted on 09/27/2001 11:07:14 AM PDT by michaelt
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To: Illbay
Is it propaganda, or is it news? Are these things NOT true? Is it NOT true that we have engendered a great deal of resentment in the Arab world? And is this not one reason why?

If you don't like the truth, don't blame me.

Yes, you have a point but it is also true that the majority (not all) of Palistinian population over there lives by the motto: "I'm a victim therefore whatever I do I'm not responsible." It's more like the Hatfields and McCoys over there.

One night I was waiting in a car with my husbands Uncle (who BTW was born in S. America imigrated to the Middle East and took a Jordanian passport then began his grown up life in Iraq then imigrated to, get this New Jersey) and he was trying to tell me how terrible the Jews are. I replied that has never been my personal experience. He became more and more indignant as the conversation progressed at which point his American born son started to spout more of the same sh!t........Finally, I said look, "I'm not disputing wheither what you say is true or not...I wasn't there, however, neither was your son...there are always two sides to every story but your son here simply repeats your own personal hatred....So I ask you this, When will there be peace in the middle east if you teach your son to hate the Jews just because you do...then your son teaches his son to do the same?.....All your doing is purpetuating the situation. Where does the bitterness and fighting end and the peace begin?"

His reply: Silence-------So much for being Catholic and Arab.

So my point to you is this...in my own personal experience most of these middle eastern people don't know what the word FORGIVENESS (even If they are Christian like my husbands Uncle) is. They waste most of the energy on REVENGE and justifing what they do under the title "I'm a victim", so don't blame me.

48 posted on 09/27/2001 11:47:21 AM PDT by thingumbob
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To: Illbay
We didn't give the Arabs what they wanted so they got mad and brought down the WTC. That's ok?
106 posted on 09/27/2001 2:40:14 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Illbay
Is it NOT true that we have engendered a great deal of resentment in the Arab world?

I think people like bin laden and Arafat engender a great deal of resentment in the Arab world. Propaganda works in many ways and it seems to be working on you. BTW, too much exposure to propaganda has been linked to mental illness. Jauntybeesting should get therapy before he calls the FBI and the Gestapo police or somebody else on everybody.

118 posted on 09/27/2001 4:09:53 PM PDT by virgil
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To: Illbay
Is it NOT true that we have engendered a great deal of resentment in the Arab world?

And a lady in a mini skirt engenders rape?

158 posted on 09/27/2001 7:58:09 PM PDT by FreeReign
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