A Ren. in Chicago (The Future of the Catholic Church, or Hegel is Wrong!)

Foundation for Catholic Reform ^ | Fall 2001 | John Burger

[watsonfellow]

The Roman Catholic Church is experiencing a tremendous vitality and growth in vocations, but in traditionalist parishes like this. It is in these parishes that the war against the Culture of Death is being fought! LEX ORANDI LEX CREDENDI

[Cicero]

A great read. Many thanks for posting this.

Although it's only a sidelight, one sentence struck my eye: "A superhighway cutting through a once solid Polish neighborhood and the flight of families to the suburbs hammered away at the parishioner base." Michael Jones has been writing about the destruction of the ethnic Catholic parishes in the big cities by the federal government. This appears to have been deliberate policy, to fragment certain voting blocs. It's great to think that these urban communities are making a comeback.

[watsonfellow]

I wrote my thesis on the renewal of the Tridentine Mass and the Society of St. John, I am a fount. of knowledge concerning these matters.

["Bare Ruined Choirs"]

Good post. Thanks.

God Bless +

[watsonfellow]

May I suggest Catherine Pickstock's magnus opus, After Writing : On the Liturgical Consummation of Philosophy, not only is it an attack on Derrida and Foucoult (I spelled that wrong) but she concludes by saying Philosophy achieved its highest peak in the Tridentine Mass....

[veritas_in_enigma]

Bumpus, -a, -um. Bene, amice. Cum multissima gratia.

[watsonfellow]

Should we try an entire post and series of replies in latin? Or would that be too elitist?

[NYer]

Thanks for a great post! It brings back very fond memories. The beauty of the Latin Mass is that no matter which country one is in, it is possible to follow along.

Still have my bi-lingual missal - perhaps it will be back in use soon.

[Squire]

Terrific post. And great news.

["Bare Ruined Choirs"]

Thanks for the suggestion. I have heard of this along with Rosemann (sp?)of UD's postmodern reading. While on topic, I can recommend Victor White O.P.'s God and the Unconscious, Peter Milward's Shakespeare's Religious Background, and, despite the unorthodox-sounding title, Dom Aelred Graham's Zen Catholicism for anyone who is interested. Salvete.

[veritas_in_enigma]

Elitus bonus in philosophiae verae est.

Adoremus +

[watsonfellow]

Sed, vox popularum est vox dei, in provincialiis sociis precipue

[watsonfellow]

ne " provincialiis sociis" sed "Americae Unitas"

[veritas_in_enigma]

Bene. Sed horribile dictu! Ego mistako. Ablativa. "Elitus bonus in philosophia vera est." Adoremus cum sapientia bona.

[Alkhin]

If I may, I'd like to interject that the ANGLICAN CATHOLIC CHURCH is very similar to the Roman Catholic, except with out the Marian emphasis and the Pope. We tend to straddle the High Church Episcopal and the Roman Catholic in our practices. Our focus is Benedictine in nature and very traditional, regal, and dignified. I find tremendous peace in this church.

[Temple Drake]

thanks for posting this -- anti-Catholic weirdo posters KEEP OUT! This is, I am happy to say, my parish!! I converted here and am thrilled to be home.

Speaking of recovering Catholic treasures, I have an exquisite rosary of green Czech glass and brass, fitted into a tiny matching case adorned with Our Lady of Sorrows under an oval glass bevel. When I converted, I took it in to have Fr. Phillips bless it. He asked where I had gotten such a nice antique rosary, and I explained that I had found it for a couple of dollars lying in a pile of junky costume jewelery in a resale shop. This answer appeared to give him real pain ... he actually said "Stop, don't tell me more!" He has a true calling to restore the beauty of sacred worship to our Church.

[watsonfellow]

Tsk tsk...."mistako" verbum tuum exspectas es "error".....

["Bare Ruined Choirs"]

I might comment that the "Catholic" Church in England can be a very different kind of experience from what many encounter in the U.S. Some of the goofy aspects of the Catholic Church in the U.S. has a lot to do with certain apsects of American popular culture and liberal counter-culture which in the 1960s and 1970s ("in the Spirit of Vatican II")began to prey upon the clergy and take things in goofy and quite un-Catholic directions. Anyone who has been to Rome or traveled extensively in Europe will know what I mean. There is a dignity and solemnity to traditional Catholicism that is sometimes, shall we say, under-represented in the U.S.

[watsonfellow]

Yes, I recently attended the Service at St. Paul's for those recently killed in NYC and PA and DC...it was quite well done, bells and smells and all. I must say that I would prefer a High Anglican Service to a Modern, Sister Mary Sunshine leading everyone in Koombayay Mass anyday......except for the small little detail of transubstantiation....It would seem that the Anglicans never really seem to have a good answer for this.

[veritas_in_enigma]

Intelligo jocum tuum. Vatican II strikes again. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

Sed seriously, I enjoyed the post.