KISS THE NOTION OF SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE GOODBYE!!!

FR | 09/15/01 | ServesURight

[ServesURight]

The United States of America is a Christian nation again.

The Terrorist attacks have renewed America's faith in God. There will be no more ACLU/People for the American Way lawyers screaming about politicians and government officials openly praying anymore.

There will no more lawsuits against city officials and residents who display religious symbols during Christmas. No more outrage against high-school teams praying before games, no more Supreme Court decisions.

The atheists at the ACLU were probably defecating in their pants at the site of Congress and President attending the National Cathedral, and at the site of millions of Americans holding candlelight vigils and prayer groups across the country.

I dare the Left to make "seperation of church and state" an issue now.

[ConsistentLibertarian]

"I see that you find religion to be very dangerous. Scared aren't you?" It's a question of risk assessment and risk management. Osoma bin Laden and other Islamic extremists and the Taliban government's vision for a pan-Islamaic theocracy present a risk that needs to be managed. You might present a risk of the same nature but on a much smaller scale. Hard to tell. Usually small dogs bark loudest.

[stuartcr]

And also because Jewish people/companies really have a LOT of money worldwide.

[Professional]

I think that's a quote from Osama bin Laden.

CL, you're a shining example of complete stupidity and evil. You equate people that see some distinction between right and wrong, good and evil, with being a terrorist?

You're a real sicko.

[eddie willers]

I see that you find religion to be very dangerous. Scared aren't you?.

After seeing it carried to its extreme Tuesday....yes...I am.

[jess35]

Where do you see that in the US Constitution? The USA is a Christian, God fearing nation, or at least it was. And it is my prayer and I will do all in my power to see that it is once again. And if that means disagreeing with you, well so be it for the Apsotle Paul has made it abundantly clear that I and those that oppose Christ and His teachings have nothing in common anyhow.(2 Corinthians 6:14)

Read my post again if you did not understand. You cannot have a particular religion take control of government without having government support of that particular religion. What's so difficult to understand about that?

The first amendment does not prohibit a person of any religious faith from holding office..it just means that people cannot use government to mandate their faith...ie Christian prayer in government schools and the mandatory display of the 10 commandments.

[Leroy S. Mort]

We are being attacked by muslims because we are a Christian nation. And because we support Israel.

If the Muslims wanted to attack Christians, they'd be launching airliners into Vatican City. They're attacking because we support Israel, pure and simple.

[Alas]

you are excused.

You may now go and play in your litter box. But be a good little whatever.

Nukem

[ConsistentLibertarian]

Literacy must not be prerequisite for work in your field.

[Paranoid-Pessimist]

There is no such thing as the "separation of church and state." Who even invented that phrase? This issue is addressed in Amendment I of the Constitution as follows:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech..."

If one reads those words carefully, one would have to be a leftist, communist, member of the elite media, or ignorant (excuse all the redundancies), to fabricate the concept of the "separation of church and state" from those words. It simply says that the goverment cannot, by law, establish a religion, nor can it prohibit the expression or excercise of a religion by any individual(s).

[eddie willers]

you are excused.

Thank you.
I will now find some adults to talk with.

[Guinastasia]

Fine. Just don't try to force it on me. BTW, many of the Founding Fathers were DEISTS, not Christian.

[jess35]

I suggest that you study the writing of the founders of this country. Study the history of the people who came here. Study the history of the first colonists who came looking for religious freedom and wasted no time persecuting people of different faiths. There is a long and bloody history of religious oppression that supports a clear separation of Church and State.

[Grut]

...but religion has always been a part of American politics...

Actually, the record is of hypocracy about religion; Bill Clinton and his white Bible stand at the apex of a long tradition.

[sinkspur]

Ths nation IS by default and by number a Christian nation.

Really? I've read any number of threads that says we are NOT a Christian nation, and that God is visiting judgment on us because of our sins.

Which is it?

[ConsistentLibertarian]

The fundamental schism on FR is between theocrats and "republicans" in the classic sense -- defenders of a constitutionally limited democracy. Usually the differences get papered over because both groups share a common policy agenda. The sparks fly when theocrats come clean and realize they aren't defenders of a constitutionally limited democracy, and in fact they regard the very notion as "evil". They favor a theocracy -- not rule by the people but rule by Those Who Know the Will of God.

[Guinastasia]

There is no such thing as the "separation of church and state." Who even invented that phrase?

A man by the name of Thomas Jefferson.

[Iowegian]

Of your intolerance, certainly.

We are free to be intolerant of evil (unless you want to take away our freedom of thought as well).

[aruanan]

I dare the Left to make "seperation of church and state" an issue now.

If that's all they were content to do, it would be okay since that's not out of line with the Constitution. What they want, however, is separation of religion from society. There's no Constitutional basis for that.

[Don Brush]

If people don't want to pray, then don't pray. Just don't tell those of us that choose to that we are somehow offending you with our prayers. We have the right to pray anywhere, anytime, and in front of anyone. I am offended by a lot of behavior that others engage in, prayer is a personal freedom that hurts no one.