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FFRF Opposes National Day Of Prayer [Have Barf Bags Wide Open and Handy]
Freedom From Religion Foundation ^ | 9/13/01 | Jerkweed

Posted on 09/14/2001 8:31:13 AM PDT by careyb


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Statement on September 11 Terrorism

Acts of Terrorism the Ultimate "Faith-Based Initiative"?

September 13, 2001

This statement was released by the Freedom From Religion Foundation, a Madison, Wis.-based national association of freethinkers (atheists and agnostics) working to protect the constitutional separation of church and state since 1978.

Representing our national membership of freethinkers, as well as the 18.5% of U.S. citizens who are not religious, we join in the national mourning over the events on September 11, a horrible and senseless human tragedy.

However, Bush's proclamation of Friday, September 14 as a "National Day of Prayer and Remembrance" shows the pitfalls of the "God is on our side" mentality, and the dangers of religious patriotism.

While it may be natural for religious persons to turn to religion or prayer for solace, it is not the role of the President of the United States, or his spokespersons, to urge citizens to pray, to go to church, to turn to faith, or to observe a National Day of Prayer with worship.

In fact, it appears that the terrorist disasters of September 11 may well have been the ultimate "faith-based initiative." These terrorists apparently expected to find a reward "in heaven" and were bent on starting a "holy war" with our nation.

Our country should not fall into the trap of religious terrorists: Holy wars don't have solutions, they just have body counts.

Religion is not the answer, it is probably the problem. As Pascal put it: "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."

Prayer had its chance on September 11, and it failed. Imagine the unanswered prayers of hundreds or thousands of the victims of these terrorists. Official prayer will not solve any problems.

We believe it is appropriate for President Bush to call for a Day of Remembrance, but leave prayer up to individuals. Civil War Col. Robert G. Ingersoll reminds us: "The hands that help are better far than lips that pray."

The nonreligious are among the victims and their families, and are represented in the ranks of the heroes, the firefighters and police officers risking or giving their lives to save others. It is offensive that the President of all Americans disregards the convictions, even the existence, of the more than 10% of the population that is not religious.

The "God is on our side" mentality was responsible for these tragic acts of terrorism. We must not compound the dangers by a "One Nation Under God" response. #

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1 posted on 09/14/2001 8:31:13 AM PDT by careyb
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To: careyb
We must not compound the dangers by a "One Nation Under G-d" response.

then go elsewhere. this is One Nation Under G-d.
... or did these yahoos go to elementary school in another country?

2 posted on 09/14/2001 8:40:28 AM PDT by glock rocks (fmcdh)
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To: careyb
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I don't see anything that prohibits the President from asking for a day of prayer in the First Ammendment. I fact, these FFRF folks seem to want to violate it by attempting to prohibit the President and the people of the US from exercising our right to practice our religion.

3 posted on 09/14/2001 8:45:32 AM PDT by mbynack
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To: careyb
I understand that prayer gives solace and comfort to a lot of folks who are hurting, and I respect that and would never tell someone not to pray. But prayer doesn't exactly have a good track record. Imagine the thousands of mothers who prayed for their children to be safe. Those children are now buried underneath a pile of rubble.
4 posted on 09/14/2001 8:45:58 AM PDT by tider
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To: careyb
As an atheist, please accept my apology for the actions of these morons.

Some people are just plain idiots.

5 posted on 09/14/2001 8:46:49 AM PDT by OWK
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To: glock rocks
Secular fanatics.
7 posted on 09/14/2001 8:50:40 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: OWK
>>>As an atheist, please accept my apology for the actions of these morons.<<<

I'm sorry, but I must reject your apology. You haven't done anything wrong and you cannot apologize for something that someone else did.

Rest assured, however, that you are on record as having nothing to do with these morons.

8 posted on 09/14/2001 8:52:20 AM PDT by FormerLib
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To: tider
Common fallacy of non-believers. Blaming earthly problems on God's action or inaction. You simply must get some better material.
9 posted on 09/14/2001 8:53:55 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: OWK
Accepted, and please accept my apology for the people who forget that Christ's follower's are supposed to shine his love throughout a world that has too much hate in it already (The Falwell thread). G-d is truly no respecter of persons in allocating ignorance.
10 posted on 09/14/2001 8:57:59 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: careyb
UNBELIEVABLE!!! What a bunch of moronns.
12 posted on 09/14/2001 9:04:31 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Texas_Jarhead
But if God can't be expected to have any influence over earthly matters, then what's the point of prayer? Except, of course, to make us feel better, which I already acknowledge as legitimate.
13 posted on 09/14/2001 9:05:19 AM PDT by tider
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To: OWK
Sign me up with fellow atheist OWK. What nutjobs....
14 posted on 09/14/2001 9:07:08 AM PDT by toenail
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To: OWK
No apology necessary.

Not your lunacy.

15 posted on 09/14/2001 9:08:07 AM PDT by careyb
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To: careyb, all
Message to FFRF: Jam it!

Thanks for the e-mail link. These jerks are going to get a piece of my mind, and I am sure that you all have done the same. Good job.

16 posted on 09/14/2001 9:08:25 AM PDT by Hillary 666
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To: careyb
As an agnostic, I would like to reiterate that these people are wackos.
17 posted on 09/14/2001 9:14:05 AM PDT by ThinkDifferent
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To: OWK
There is no need for you to apologize even though the usual suspects will arrive and accuse you of founding the FFRF.

BTW, I didn't have the chance to compliment you on the your thread before it got pulled today. It was excellent and right on target. Sadly, I have to conclude that it didn't fit in with the anonymous moderators' point of view.

18 posted on 09/14/2001 9:24:27 AM PDT by Scuttlebutt
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To: careyb
Religion is not the answer, it is probably the problem. As Pascal put it: "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."

I am so sick of hearing this. There's not been a "holy war" yet,(including the crusades) that was not based on greed. Behind all these minions carrying out these deplorable acts, are filthy, greedy pigs with no goal in mind other than taking over the world. Greed is the guilty party here, NOT religion.
19 posted on 09/14/2001 9:30:46 AM PDT by dubyagee
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To: OWK
Ditto.....
20 posted on 09/14/2001 9:33:02 AM PDT by unamused
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