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Believed to Be Safe, the Towers Proved Vulnerable to the Intense Heat of a Jet Fuel Fire [NYT]
The NY Times | 9/12/01 | James Glanz

Posted on 09/11/2001 8:06:15 PM PDT by summer

September 12, 2001

THE BUILDINGS

Believed to Be Safe, the Towers Proved Vulnerable to the Intense Heat of a Jet Fuel Fire

By JAMES GLANZ

The cause of the twin collapse yesterday of the World Trade Center towers in Downtown Manhattan was most likely the intense fire fed by thousands of gallons of jet fuel aboard the two jetliners that crashed into the buildings, experts on skyscraper design said.

The high temperatures, of perhaps 1,000 to 2,000 degrees, probably weakened the steel supports, the experts said, causing the external walls to buckle and allowing the floors above to fall almost straight down. That led to catastrophic failures of the rest of the buildings.

The towers were built to withstand the stresses of hurricane-force winds and to survive the heat of ordinary fires. After the 1993 trade center bombing, one of the engineers who worked on the towers' structural design in the 1960's even claimed that each one had been built to withstand the impact of a fully loaded, fully fueled Boeing 707, then the heaviest aircraft flying.

No engineer could have prepared for what happened yesterday, the experts said. "No structure could have sustained this kind of assault," said Richard M. Kielar, a spokesman for Tishman Realty and Construction Company, the construction manager for the original project.

The enormous heat from the jet fuel fire probably caused the steel trusses holding up concrete-slab floors and vertical steel columns to bend like soft plastic, said Jon Magnusson, chairman and chief executive of Skilling Ward Magnusson Barkshire in Seattle, a structural engineering firm that worked out the original design.

The skyscrapers had two means of defense against normal fire damage, Mr. Magnusson said. One, thick layers of insulation sprayed onto the steel beams, could have been breached by the initial crash, he said. Another, the building's sprinkler system, may have been disabled as well, or it may simply have been useless in the heat of the jet fuel fire.

Although they resisted collapse immediately after the planes' first impact, the hundreds of steel columns spaced around the outer facing of each tower eventually failed.

"They buckled outward and then the floors came down," said Mr. Magnusson, who warned that no conclusions could be reached yesterday since the information available was so sketchy.

Other experts agreed that the extreme conditions caused by the fire, and not unusual vulnerabilities of the buildings, were the likely causes of the collapse.

"There isn't anything particularly vulnerable about it," said Aine Brazil of Thornton-Tomasetti Engineers in New York, a structural engineering firm that worked on the Petronas Towers, the world's largest buildings, in Malaysia.

Buildings are simply not designed to withstand "the extreme levels of heat that would be found in the situation with the amount of jet fuel and the explosion that occurred," Ms. Brazil said.

Mr. Kielar, the Tishman spokesman, said it was too early to piece together a precise train of events, but he agreed that weakening by fire, followed by catastrophic collapse of the floors, was the most likely possibility. "As the structure warped and weakened at the top of each tower, it — along with concrete slabs, furniture, file cabinets and other materials — became an enormous consolidated weight that eventually, progressively crushed each tower below," he said in a statement.

The later collapse of the smaller 7 World Trade Center could have been caused by a combination of falling debris and a less intense fire — one not accelerated by jet fuel — lasting several hours, said Brian McIntyre, chief operating officer of Skilling Ward. Such a building is "basically designed to resist heat buildup for three hours," he said.

The structural design of the two towers, fairly common now, was considered innovative in its day. Instead of the heavy internal bracing and heavy exterior masonry of, for example, the Empire State Building, the designers of the trade center towers chose a light, glass-and-steel facing threaded by steel columns. Those columns, 61 on each side, gave the towers most of their stiffness and largely held them up, said Dr. John Schuring, a professor and chairman of civil engineering at the New Jersey Institute of Technology.

"The major strength of the building is in its skin," Dr. Schuring said.

There was also a cluster of columns in the center, supporting structures like the stairs and elevators, he said. A network of steel trusses ran between the two sets of columns, holding up each concrete floor and providing further strength to the buildings.

A special set of plates on each floor ran among the trusses, serving to dampen stresses on the buildings caused by winds of up to 200 miles per hour, said Dr. Jack Cermak, president of Cermak Peterka Peterson in Fort Collins, Colo., the firm that did the wind-tunnel testing for the design of the towers.

Dr. Cermak agreed that the impact of the crash itself probably could not have collapsed the massively reinforced building on its own.

"I presume, without knowing the details, that that collapse was caused by weakening of the structure due to the heat," Dr. Cermak said.

Matthys Levy, an architect at Weidlinger Associates and the author of "Why Buildings Fall Down" (Norton, 1992), watched the first tower collapse while standing at Seventh Avenue and Houston Streets, some 20 blocks away.

"I saw the beginning of the top moving down, and the whole thing collapsed in a cloud of smoke," Mr. Levy said. "From what I saw, it seemed to come straight down."

Mr. Levy said the situation was much different from the one that occurred in 1945 when a much smaller plane slammed into the Empire State Building.

That plane, a bomber with a smaller impact and less fuel, ripped a 20-foot hole in the structure, but the building remained standing.

There was some disagreement yesterday about whether, decades later, the trade center towers had been designed to withstand an impact from an airliner filled with fuel.

The engineer who said after the 1993 bombing that the towers could withstand a Boeing 707, Leslie Robertson, was not available for comment yesterday, a partner at his Manhattan firm said.

"We're going to hold off on speaking to the media," said the partner, Rick Zottola, at Leslie E. Robertson Associates. "We'd like to reserve our first comments to our national security systems, F.B.I. and so on."

But Anthony G. Cracchiolo, director of priority capital programs for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owned the buildings, said little thought had been given to the possibility of a plane crash into the towers.

"We never were asked to consider trying to protect the building from such a threat," said Mr. Cracchiolo, who was among those who coordinated the reconstruction after the 1993 bombing. "As structural engineers, there is nothing we could have done to protect the building from a direct impact from a plane as large as these."

Melvin Schweitzer, a member of the Port Authority board of commissioners from 1993 to 1999, said, however, that the board repeatedly inquired about that possibility. "We were just told that architects had explained that the building was designed to withstand a jet," Mr. Schweitzer said. "Frankly, when we raised that question, most of us were thinking of a small plane."

The architectural firm for the trade center, Minoru Yamasaki Associates of Rochester Hills, Mich., declined to answer specific questions about the collapse, and issued only a brief statement.

"The company has been in contact with law enforcement authorities, and we will provide any assistance we can to aid the rescue efforts," the statement said. "In this time of national emergency, we believe that any speculation regarding the specifics of these tragic events would be irresponsible."


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To: snooker
Why hasn't anyone said WEIGHT.
It *DID*, after all, take 55 minutes for the south tower to collapse - the fire first had to take it's toll/do it's damage before the eventual collapse ...

What kind of property/strength changes does steel go through in the temp range of between 1000 and 2000 degrees?

Or - why not 'weight in motion' (impact force/inertia) as the first fire-weakened middle floors collpased - followed by the MONSTEROUS weight of the remaining floors as they come down and gained speed ...

41 posted on 09/12/2001 11:02:19 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: Jim Boyd, _Jim
Professor Boyd, I look forward to reading your post tearing apart _Jim's "scientific" explanation that he believes "proves" you wrong about the Murrah building explosion(s).

_Jim, I gotta hand it to you. Getting beaten time and time again just makes you come back harder. You're very tenacious. Good luck in matching wits with the good professor!

42 posted on 09/12/2001 11:14:16 AM PDT by HalfIrish
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To: HalfIrish, PhiKapMom, Miss Marple, Jim RObinson, Admin Moderator, Hugh Akston
AfterI suffered repeated abuse and insults on another thread by a poster named HalfIrish -- insults, BTW, for which Hugh Akston kindly unsuccessfully attempted to intervene and obtain an apology for me from HalfIrish -- I have repeatedly -- REPEATEDLY -- and nicely, asked HalfIrish NOT to write to me; TO LEAVE ME ALONE.

I don't mind that he writes to other people. Nor do I care if he post on threads I start, so long as he addresses his posts to someone ELSE or to all.

But, despite my REPEATED requests and THE INTERVENING OF THIS MATTER BY ANOTHER, here is HalfIrish, posting FOUR TIMES to me on this thread.

Consequently, please ban HIM for AT LEAST A YEAR, and DELETE his posts to me here, numbers 35, 36, 38, and 39.

I do not know why SOME people do NOT respect my POLITE REQUEST TO: Please not write to me anymore.

Had he respected that, I would not NOW have to RESORT to asking you to BAN him for AT LEAST A YEAR until DEC 2002.

Thank you!
43 posted on 09/12/2001 11:16:36 AM PDT by summer
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To: summer,halfirish, admin moderator
HalfIrish has the right to respond to anyone, anywhere on this forum as long as he is not profane or makes personal attacks. You have no perogative to demand that he not respond to you. If you post here, you are fair game for criticism, and it is NOT YOUR CALL to decide whether he should be banned, let alone how long he should be banned for.

However, halfirish, don't drag conflicts around the forum when avoidable.

44 posted on 09/12/2001 11:23:02 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: summer, HalfIrish, big ern
You've requested that I be banned. You also asked that big ern be banned. Now HalfIrish has to go.

Is there anyone else you would like removed from Free Republic?

45 posted on 09/12/2001 11:24:29 AM PDT by Jean S
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To: summer
Good day, ma'am. Please do not make an issue of this anymore.. you'll be doing it for yourself, not for me. You can be level-headed and adult, right?

You cannot tell anyone not to post on a thread, you dig?

Please just let it lie before you upset yourself too much. If I toss abuse your way, by all means report it. It's not hapening yet, so just let it go for goodness sake. You offered your share of abuse on the thread you referenced, and I didn't hit any button. Nor will I if you go to abuse mode now. I just wish you'd learn how FR operates.

46 posted on 09/12/2001 11:25:47 AM PDT by HalfIrish
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To: summer
Thanks for posting this article! Sure makes a lot of sense!
47 posted on 09/12/2001 5:47:32 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: summer
I am making a sincere and serious effort to have you banned from this forum for at least a year. Here is why, and I am publicly stating my reasons in an effort to disuade your other poster friends from agreeing to harass me pursuant to your obvious requests to them.

Your paranoia astounds me.

48 posted on 09/12/2001 6:14:36 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: summer
Bookmark.
49 posted on 09/12/2001 6:17:05 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: summer
While most of what is said in this post is correct, it and practically everyone else calls this a jet fuel fire. It was not. Sure the jet fuel really helped start the fire, but it was gone in the first couple of minutes. The fuel tanks were shredded on impact and the liquid fuel dispersed.

When you see the tapes of the crash note the huge red flames that was the jet fuel, a couple of minutes and they are gone with the fuel. Then you see thick black smoke. This was furniture, carpet, files full of paper, but mostly the remains of an airliner. Airliners burn very well even without jet fuel. They burn very hot too. Hot enough to melt the steel in the WTC.

50 posted on 09/12/2001 7:30:28 PM PDT by Slewfoot
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To: poet
Sorry, I meant to say Best Regaards
52 posted on 09/12/2001 8:12:18 PM PDT by poet
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To: summer
You need to take your personal problems to a PRIVATE email. This is the second thread I have seen you make personal remarks on about other posters.
53 posted on 09/12/2001 10:27:58 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: summer
AfterI suffered repeated abuse and insults on another thread by a poster named HalfIrish -- insults, BTW, for which Hugh Akston kindly unsuccessfully attempted to intervene and obtain an apology for me from HalfIrish -- I have repeatedly -- REPEATEDLY -- and nicely, asked HalfIrish NOT to write to me; TO LEAVE ME ALONE.

Dear, take a look at #30. YOU FLAGGED HIM TO THIS THREAD and now you're complaining that he WRITES TO YOU, which he did not.

You have deep seated problems.

54 posted on 09/12/2001 10:33:11 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin, PhiKapMom
Howlin,

In all honesty. I have tried. And tried. But, I get nowhere with these posters. And, PhiKapMom has tried and she will confirm that I am telling you the truth.

If YOU would like to go to private email and try to convince these posters to stop harassing me, you are MORE than welcome to try. I would of course appreciate your help.

I just received an email that HalfIrish has been suspended for awhile.

Best of luck to you with them. And, thank you for any help you can give me.

Sincerely,
summer
55 posted on 09/12/2001 10:35:11 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
I'm not here to help anybody. I'm saying the remarks you are posting are entirely TOO PERSONAL. Stop flagging people to your posts if you don't want them to come on your threads.
56 posted on 09/12/2001 10:39:35 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Slewfoot
Thank you for your post # 50 . Very interesting point you make about the fire.
57 posted on 09/12/2001 10:40:48 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
Congratulations. You had HalfIrish banned. I cannot believe this.
58 posted on 09/12/2001 10:41:59 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: HalfIrish, Howlin
I just wish you'd learn how FR operates.

-------------------------

HalfIrish, I sincerely wish YOU'd learn how FR operates. I just received an email from the Admin Moderator saying you have been suspended for awhile.

I hope and pray this suspension by FR of YOU sends a clearer message to YOU than I was able to send to YOU.

When you return to FR, just DON'T WRITE TO ME. PERIOD.

Instead of harassing ME, do this:

Write to OTHER people.

Address your posts on any threads I start, to: OTHER people.

THANK YOU, VERY MUCH.
59 posted on 09/12/2001 10:49:06 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
hate to jump into this snake pit but next time you go by a construction sight, look at the material they spray on the steel. it's called 'monocoat'. it's a fire retardant. it protects the steel from fire. knock it away and add tremendous heat and you have structural failure. steel is very malleable when hot. it draws and holds heat for a long time. put a blow torch to an i beam for 10 seconds and then try to touch it. run a welding rod for 10 seconds and see how hot it gets. i used to wreck buildings, so i know a few things about it.

ever hear of the 'abuse' button?

60 posted on 09/12/2001 10:49:42 PM PDT by rockfish59
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