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To: libertarian_usa
Franklin's aphorism is as good today as it was when first written, and I paraphrase, "Those who are willing to sacrifice a bit of liberty for a bit of security -- are worthy of neither."
2 posted on 09/11/2001 12:17:18 PM PDT by BenR2
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To: BenR2
Franklin's aphorism is as good today as it was when first written, and I paraphrase, "Those who are willing to sacrifice a bit of liberty for a bit of security -- are worthy of neither."

Yes.

There are two ways to go. We do little except try and catch specific individuals involved and make the US a police state to stop future acts.

Or we completely re-organize our national defense, security and international relations.

We can bring it out to those who are part of this enemy axis and stop it. That means US military presence and action in the world.

Or we can become a police state ourselves.

I am glad Cohen and his crew are no longer in power. We know what he would choose.

12 posted on 09/11/2001 12:27:50 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: BenR2
Franklin's aphorism is as good today as it was when first written, and I paraphrase, "Those who are willing to sacrifice a bit of liberty for a bit of security -- are worthy of neither."

Well, consider this: When I was growning up, you could get on a plane as a passenger without having luggage or your personal things checked ... But today, would you even get on a plane that did not check? We DO give up some freedoms for security.

22 posted on 09/11/2001 12:34:55 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: BenR2
AMEN!
158 posted on 09/11/2001 6:10:21 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: BenR2
>Franklin's aphorism is as good today as it was when first written, and I paraphrase, "Those who are willing to sacrifice a bit of liberty for a bit of security -- are worthy of neither."

The achille's heel of your argument is your paraphrase -- what you selectively left out. The full quote is: "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserves neither liberty nor safety."

The key phrase here is "ESSENTIAL liberty." What part of Cohen's description are you considering "essential liberty"?

241 posted on 09/18/2001 2:00:34 PM PDT by Politico2
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