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China’s Fake Driver’s License Allegations Revive Questions About Michigan’s 2020 Voter Rolls
michigannewssource ^ | 02 24 2026 | J.P. Isbell

Posted on 02/27/2026 10:04:57 AM PST by yesthatjallen

Americans were told repeatedly in 2020 that there was no evidence of a coordinated national voter fraud effort. During September 2020 testimony before the U.S. Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, FBI Director Christopher Wray said the Bureau had not seen such a scheme and would aggressively investigate if it did.

Court challenges in Michigan followed. Lawsuits over absentee ballot counting at Detroit’s TCF Center (now Huntington Place) were rejected, with judges ruling the claims unsupported. A later federal lawsuit alleging fraudulent absentee ballots and improper voter registrations was also dismissed. Certification of Michigan’s election results moved forward.

Yet questions never fully faded – particularly surrounding automatic voter registration (AVR), which is tied to driver’s license and state ID transactions.

The China intelligence report.

In July 2025, newly declassified FBI documents released publicly by Sen. Chuck Grassley revealed that a 2020 FBI Intelligence Information Report (IIR) alleged the Chinese government had produced “tens of thousands” of counterfeit U.S. driver’s licenses. The report suggested the IDs could have been used to facilitate fraudulent mail-in ballots for Joe Biden.

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KEYWORDS: 2020election; china; naysayers

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1 posted on 02/27/2026 10:04:57 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

All over the country this goes on; it’s exposed and written and talked about. That’s the end of the story.


2 posted on 02/27/2026 10:13:27 AM PST by Hattie
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To: yesthatjallen

My state Michigan is one of the most corrupt in the country about voting and ballot counting.

One item: Gov. Gretchen Whitmer ordered her Dem feminist Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson to set all the voting machines to “zero”, erasing all records on them once she declared the election results certified.

She knew there were already lawsuits starting to be filed by the GOP about questions to investigate in vote totals.

Her legal loophole: The Governor must see that all voting machines are at zero and prepared in time for the next election in each district. She just did it immediately-—why risk being late in a few months when there was another off season vote on the calendar?


3 posted on 02/27/2026 10:24:43 AM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: Hattie

The allegations continue. Few do the hard legwork to develop proof. In GA one of many types of vote fraud was investigated beyond allegations to proof. That reduced the Biden winning margin from 12,000 to 9,000.

Nobody has ever done the hardwork necessary to prove at least 9,000 vote fraud in the other forms of vote fraud. There certainly are cases of the other types of vote fraud. But how many?

What the FBI is doing now in “proof” is unknown. Evidence and proof are much more difficult in 2026 than if the hard work had been done in 2020.

In the past, when I proved vote fraud in IL it was the same day or in the same week as the election. It was a lot of shoe leather. It was a lot of preparation before election day. It was personally knowing the voters.

In the 2020 GA Dem primary exactly the same allegations of vote fraud were made as were made in the final. But was anyone concerned about vote fraud then? No. If they were truly concerned, they would have prepared for Nov, which was not done by those now allegedly concerned about vote fraud.

If you are truly concerned about vote fraud, focus on 2026, not on 2020.


4 posted on 02/27/2026 10:29:47 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: spintreebob
If you are truly concerned about vote fraud, focus on 2026, not on 2020.

Fortunately, we have the assets to do two+ things at the same time.

Instead of ignoring the mechanisms for past fraud, let's thoroughly analyze each credible means of fraud so that we may defeat fraud in 2026 and beyond.

From the article:
"...a 2020 FBI...alleged the Chinese government had produced “tens of thousands” of counterfeit U.S. driver’s licenses.
...2020 testimony...FBI Director Christopher Wray said the Bureau had not seen such a scheme and would aggressively investigate if it did."

Did Wray testify about a scheme his department had uncovred?
Was that thoroughly investigated, and if so what results?
If the report predated Wray's testimony, should Wray be tried for perjury and perhaps even more?

5 posted on 02/27/2026 11:12:25 AM PST by frog in a pot (The Dems voted to not meet the payrolls of the U.S.C.G. and the TSA, any doubt about their agenda?)
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To: yesthatjallen

I researched this topic via chat GPT.

No ‘surge’ of drivers licenses nationwide from 2019 to 2021. There were 4 million more licenses, but this is average increase nationwide per year.
No significant changes in likely auto insurance policies during same time frame.

So, as best as I can tell, if the Chinese were using this system to register voters, it wouldn’t account for the 11 million extra votes Biden got in 2020.


6 posted on 02/27/2026 11:20:16 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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To: yesthatjallen

Bump


7 posted on 02/27/2026 11:22:26 AM PST by WhoisAlanGreenspan? (GO Lions)
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To: frog in a pot

“so that we may defeat fraud in 2026”

1) At least in the Red states like GA remove the automatic voter registration from the issuance of Driver’s licenses.
2) Clean house at the FEC/HAVA Federal Elections Commission/Help America Vote Act. Why are they still bribing local election officials to use the wrong hardware and software? ... and software developers who know neither US or state Law nor customs?
3) Run every voter registration list against Legacy.Com to flag dead voters. Currently Legacy.com is more accurate than Social Security and other Federal and State government databases. Funeral directors are licensed and required to be honest and accurate...and they are far more accurate on Legacy.com than any government database.
4) Starting with databases of “movers” do the hard legwork to prove that the movers no longer live where they are registered. Prove that the registered do not live in vacant houses and vacant lots. (Be sensitive to military and other registered who are allowed to do this.)
5) Build a foot army of PRECINCT WORKERS who go door-to-door and know who the voters are.
6) ....

Be good Scouts...BE PREPARED.


8 posted on 02/27/2026 12:02:23 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: spintreebob

In Georgia you have to provide documentation proving US citizenship before being allowed to register to vote when getting your driver’s license. This is what we had to do when we moved to Georgia in 2012.


9 posted on 02/27/2026 12:25:58 PM PST by SubVet72 (There are two types of ships in the Navy, Submarines and Targets!)
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To: SubVet72

Only have to prove citizenship if the DMV employee asks, which is rare. My naturalized citizen wife who English with a heavy accent is not asked. We moved and got new licenses. Again not asked. Nor I who speaks better English not asked.

In Atlanta I asked co-workers, citizens of Canada and India about their Drivers License / Voter Registration experience. Not many were asked. Auto Voter Registration was not really on their minds when they went to get a GA drivers license.


10 posted on 02/27/2026 12:37:02 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: Pete Dovgan
"No ‘surge’ of drivers licenses nationwide from 2019 to 2021."

Anyone comparing state-level statistics to detect a surge in licenses is only going to show the delta in actual state-issued licenses from one year to another. The same is true if comparing numbers of insured drivers reported by insurance carriers.

The Chinese counterfeit licenses were fake licenses, not produced by any state licensing systems, and not in the dataset that you're referencing. They just would not have shown up in state-reported totals. These fake licenses would only have been used to obtain fake voter registrations. They were not ever put in the wallets of actual people. And they certainly wouldn't be used to obtain insurance.

Trying to use only state or insurance company data to expose a large blip in licensees, or an equivalent blip in insured motorists, would not reveal these counterfeits.

11 posted on 02/27/2026 1:01:27 PM PST by Be Free ("My revenge will be success." - Donald J. Trump)
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To: frank ballenger

Democrats, UAW and Big Three management destroyed our once arsenal of democracy. Detroit was the silicon valley of the early 1900s.

I escaped in the 1970s. Best move of my young life.


12 posted on 02/27/2026 1:29:53 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: spintreebob
Your #8 sets out a good game plan, you have the front end.

Off the top, I would only add in the case of federal elections that immediate action is brought by the national GOP in the event local (usually dem-appointed judges) rule within X days of an election in a manner that alters election laws.

Meanwhile, I will push the backend and urge punishment for those reasonably thought to have conducted election fraud. There must be established and well-defended standards.

13 posted on 02/27/2026 1:59:34 PM PST by frog in a pot (The Dems voted to not meet the payrolls of the U.S.C.G. and the TSA, any doubt about their agenda?)
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To: Be Free
These fake licenses would only have been used to obtain fake voter registrations. They were not ever put in the wallets of actual people.

Exactly. And also used facilitate of state voting.

14 posted on 02/27/2026 2:05:59 PM PST by frog in a pot (The Dems voted to not meet the payrolls of the U.S.C.G. and the TSA, any doubt about their agenda?)
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To: Be Free

Oooops. And also used to facilitate out of state voting.


15 posted on 02/27/2026 2:20:26 PM PST by frog in a pot (The Dems voted to not meet the payrolls of the U.S.C.G. and the TSA, any doubt about their agenda?)
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To: frog in a pot

“in the case of federal elections”

In my experience there is much more vote fraud in local elections than Federal elections. Local elections is where vote fraud is tested and improved.

Of course, turnout in local elections is less. So the amount of vote fraud is much more significant, which is why it is more often in local elections. In the US local politicians are still the base and not national politicians when it comes to elections.


16 posted on 02/27/2026 2:42:40 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: Be Free

Well said. But the reality on the ground is that poll workers are too busy to ask for or check IDs. A person walks in, says his name and the poll workers look for it in the computer screen that has a database behind it.

The #1 criticism of the Voter Registration system used in 2020 in GA was that it was designed (in India) to be very slow, which resulted in long lines. This provided the excuse to the mass mail in ballots...which were sent to the dead, non-citizens, minors, vacant houses, vacant lots, etc.


17 posted on 02/27/2026 2:48:25 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: spintreebob
In the US local politicians are still the base and not national politicians when it comes to elections.

There is the better argument that when it comes to federal elections, the candidates are indeed "national politicians" who decide the future of each of us, regardless of where we live.

Have a nice weekend.

18 posted on 02/27/2026 3:00:09 PM PST by frog in a pot (The Dems voted to not meet the payrolls of the U.S.C.G. and the TSA, any doubt about their agenda?)
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