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Singapore is also an authoritarian state which administers corporal punishments which our founders Constitutionally banned as “cruel or unusual”.


4 posted on 12/06/2025 8:14:50 PM PST by lightman (Beat the Philly fraud machine the Amish did onest, ja? Nein, zweimal they did already!)
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To: lightman
Interestingly, two of the countries in the world that consistently rank among the happiest populations are at the opposite ends of the “free-authoritarian” scale: Denmark and Singapore.

Sociologists were baffled by this for a long time, but they eventually figured out that the key to social contentment is not freedom, but consistent application of the law. Singapore might be an authoritarian state, but its citizens accept it because it is authoritarian for EVERYONE.

The article I read about this cited an example of a young adult man who was the son of a leading national political figure — maybe Singapore’s equivalent of the Vice President. He was arrested for some kind of petty crime like vandalism or minor theft. In almost any other country the crime would have been swept under the rug or, at worst, the young guy would have gotten a slap on the wrist. But in Singapore, the politician father wanted to make an example of his own son … so he insisted that the kid would be flogged repeatedly with a bamboo cane on national television. THAT surely sent a message to both the son and the nation as a whole.

7 posted on 12/06/2025 8:25:08 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: lightman; DoodleBob

There really is no right or wrong place to live. Each person prefers his own earthly paradise.

Singapore emphasizes order, efficiency, and economic development over liberal democratic norms. It ranks high on rule of law, anti-corruption, and public service delivery, which some argue offsets its democratic deficits. Singaporeans prefr it that way.

The U.S., while more liberal-democratic, faces its own challenges with polarization, institutional gridlock, and disinformation—but maintains stronger protections for dissent and pluralism. Americans prefer it that way.

I don’t see Singaporeans wanting to migrate to the USA or vice versa.

To each his own.


12 posted on 12/06/2025 8:43:56 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: lightman

“ corporal punishments which our founders Constitutionally banned as “cruel or unusual”.

No, they didn’t.


16 posted on 12/06/2025 8:48:41 PM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.”)
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To: lightman

“Singapore is also an authoritarian state which administers corporal punishments”

I would prefer that 100 times over the revolving door disaster our jails have become.

A good public caning for the miscreants is a hell of a lot more effective and way less expensive.


31 posted on 12/06/2025 10:25:57 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: lightman

You might say they are cane and able.


53 posted on 12/07/2025 9:42:53 AM PST by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: lightman

Since the Bill of Rights applied to the federal government, whipping and flogging were legal punishments at the state level until the Supreme Court did away with them 50 or 60 years ago. It was mostly applied as a punishment in prisons before that, rather than a sentence of its own.


54 posted on 12/07/2025 10:09:21 AM PST by x
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No, caning and other corporal punishments were dealt out in the 18th and 19th century US and were common, and not considered cruel or unusual.

Most counties and towns didn't have enough money to incarcerate people in jail.

56 posted on 12/07/2025 10:37:59 AM PST by caddie (Going forward we all need to become Trump, and also Captain Obvious, and Charlie Kirk too. )
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