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What Democrats say they won in the 43-day government shutdown
NBC ^ | November 12, 2025 | Scott Wong, Ryan Nobles & Lillie Boudreaux

Posted on 11/12/2025 5:04:02 AM PST by Twotone

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The agreement includes a “minibus” of three appropriations bills, which will fund some parts of the government through next fall. The rest of the government will be funded through Jan. 30.

The deal includes funding of the food assistance program known as SNAP for the rest of the fiscal year through September 2026, meaning families will be fed and food stamps can’t be used as leverage in any funding fight in the coming months.

The group of eight also got some wins for federal workers, who have been under siege since Trump’s inauguration, facing aggressive Department of Government Efficiency cuts and the consolidation of some agencies, like the U.S. Agency for International Development.

They got the Trump administration to agree to reinstate federal workers who were laid off during the shutdown through reductions in force, or RIFs. And they secured language barring future mass firings for the duration of the resolution that keeps the government open through January.

It’s a win for “federal employees who are not going to be traumatized by RIFs going forward,” said Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine, the former governor of Virginia, a state home to nearly 150,000 civilian federal workers.

“I’ve got some folks who didn’t like the vote, but I’m going to have a whole lot of federal employees who are going back to work and they’re getting their paychecks, and they can live through the holidays without worrying that they’re going to get a bad email at 5 a.m. tomorrow morning that they’re laid off.”

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; omnibus; shutdown
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1 posted on 11/12/2025 5:04:02 AM PST by Twotone
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To: Twotone

Well now that the RINOs in the Senate made their bargain, what will the RINOs in the house do?


2 posted on 11/12/2025 5:07:49 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Twotone

Baghdad Bob did it better.


3 posted on 11/12/2025 5:08:20 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away! 🇺🇸 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 )
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To: Twotone

Outrageous. Once again we have been betrayed by treason, corruption or blackmail...or all three for some of them. This country is headed for a cliff.


4 posted on 11/12/2025 5:09:23 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Twotone

Because denial isn’t just a river in Egypt?


5 posted on 11/12/2025 5:11:23 AM PST by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.d)
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To: Twotone

Sissy Commie Boy, Ezra Levin, sure has his panties in a knot. Poor little baby. He’s pissed off because his KINGS didn’t win their shutdown! Somebody change his Huggie! He’s really starting to stink.


6 posted on 11/12/2025 5:12:59 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where does it say in the Constitution that taxpayers must feed the 42 Million SNAPPER LOSERS?)
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To: Twotone

I am not so sure this was a win anymore. It is a temporary one, but the “deal” took all the leverage off the table for a future showdown in election year.


7 posted on 11/12/2025 5:13:22 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“Outrageous. Once again we have been betrayed by treason, corruption or blackmail...or all three for some of them. This country is headed for a cliff.”

Who betrayed us? What was in the BBB, is still there. Only thing that changes is ACA subsidies. They will still expire on January 1. That was the big sticking point for the rats and they didn’t win there. DOGE cuts will still remain. All the Republicans did was separate a couple of items already paid for and put a later date on it.


8 posted on 11/12/2025 5:15:05 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ( Covfefe! )
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9 posted on 11/12/2025 5:17:12 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Ezra Philip Levin is an American political activist and co-founder of the progressive non-profit organization Indivisible. He is co-author of We Are Indivisible: A Blueprint for Democracy After Trump, published in 2019


10 posted on 11/12/2025 5:18:41 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: Twotone

I do not agree with the gist of this article. Illegal immigrants still don’t get healthcare and the BBB provides for beefed up border security. That’s what I’m all about.

The Dems shut down the government and somehow Trump was the one being cruel with SNAP benefits? Give me a break.

Healthcare will be an issue. I agree with that, but the GOP is in position to do something about it. If they do, it will be a net plus.

ONWARD WITH CONFIDENCE,


11 posted on 11/12/2025 5:22:47 AM PST by Mustangman
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To: EQAndyBuzz

There’s Obamacare 1 and Obamacare 2 which came about via COVID. Millions were added to 2 cuz the income limits were changed and wealthy folks could get the subsidies. It needs to go back and put in some reasonable income limits.


12 posted on 11/12/2025 5:29:02 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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I’d like to see that law pass where congress doesn’t get paid if the government is shut down. Hopefully Rand Paul votes for it this time.


13 posted on 11/12/2025 5:38:01 AM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: Twotone

All of this is reinforcement for Congress approving the Line Item Veto. I wonder what the arguments against it would look like.


14 posted on 11/12/2025 5:38:51 AM PST by econjack
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To: Sacajaweau

The main problem is the “cliff” - a point where making one extra dollar over the arbitrary 4X poverty level can require a full payback of all subsidies. A lot of small business owners were forced into ACA plans because the previous private market was destroyed by it.

For a family of 4, it can potentially cost about $30,000 if that extra dollar is earned! They’re creating huge disincentives to work. Until they scrap the ACA, they need to adjust the cliff to something like 8 cents per dollar over. Something like that.


15 posted on 11/12/2025 5:40:23 AM PST by Codeflier (Don't worry....be happy)
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To: Sacajaweau
put in some reasonable income limits.>

No, we need the gov't out of the health insurance business. My insurance was great before Obamacare, now it is expensive and I pay about 1,000 times more out of pocket. What used to coast me $25 now cost me up to $2,500 and that does not include the higher premiums.

16 posted on 11/12/2025 5:41:57 AM PST by Dan Zachary
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I agree there has to be a better solution and Obamacare is not the right path. We need some real work on the issue...and a mechanism to reign in the insurance companies.

My advantage plan has an out of pocket of $9,000. The puts me in debt if I get sick.

17 posted on 11/12/2025 5:47:30 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Twotone
NOw it's time to reform SNAP so that the benefit is redeemable at a government grocery facility where the user uses SNAP credits to purchase bags of beans and flour, cans of soup and vegetables, etc. No candy, no snacks. The NFP/NGO's can do that through private donations.

And I don't care if RFK JR. or Michelle Obama selects the specific SNAP items. (MO did design a public school menu that was all the rage for a few years, so they could build off of that.)

18 posted on 11/12/2025 5:58:22 AM PST by Bernard ("Nothing is as expensive as that which the government provides for free." - Ronald Reagan)
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Oh.....42 million ‘Americans’, Maryland man, blah, blah, blah.


19 posted on 11/12/2025 6:23:52 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? On hold! Enlisted USN 1967 proudly. 🚫💉! 🇮🇱🙏! Winning currently!)
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To: Bernard

“NOW it’s time to reform SNAP....bags of beans and flour, cans of soup and vegetables, etc. No candy, no snacks.”

Like WIC, but no fish, just chicken and pork.

Beef is now become, like fish, a luxury food.


20 posted on 11/12/2025 6:27:01 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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