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Posted on 11/08/2025 1:59:49 PM PST by TBP
Nuking the filibuster is unprincipled, but it also makes little political sense: Trump would be doing Democrats a huge favor by greasing the wheels for exploiting fleeting one-party national majorities in the future, which will allow them to shove through massive generational “reforms” without any national consensus.
And they would be able to do it without taking any political heat for nuking the filibuster.
In recent years, they’ve coalesced around an argument that says the 60-vote threshold to cut off debate in the Senate is antiquated — a “Jim Crow relic,” said one-time filibuster champion former President Barack Obama — and fundamentally “undemocratic.”
Democrats contend that the filibuster facilitates “minority rule,” by which they mean “federalism.”
Yes, filibusters protect the minority because crass majoritarianism is objectively un-American, as is centralized one-party “democratic” rule from Washington.
The filibuster isn’t in the Constitution, but in many ways it is one of the last tools left in DC that can limit the power of the federal government and compel separation of powers.
Even as a political consideration, ending the filibuster is counterproductive.
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You’re stringing together a bunch of non-sequiturs to say “follow whatever the leader says,”
The only way I’d support eliminating the filibuster would be if it was accompanied by a full and complete abolishment of the 17th amendment.
The filibuster is the single last item that makes the Senate meaningful as a senatorial body. It’s already practically just another House of Representatives as it is.
Abolishing the 17th, utopian? - Yes I know it isn’t happening. Then the filibuster stays put.
And no, I’m not worried about the democrats. What scares me about eliminating the filibuster is the GOP Establishment. Without the filibuster, there would not be any limit to how they could surrender to the democrats.
I want limits on how the GOP can surrender to democrats.
False.
Congress can pass a budget and budgets cannot be filibustered. A real true budget, not CR Obamunist nonsense. A constitutional budget.
This meme that the only way we can get things done is by doing away with the filibuster is pure propaganda.
All we need is to start loving our Constitution again. That should not be a tall ask for people who claim to love the Constitution.
False.
Budgets can’t be filibustered.
I’m afraid the author is correct. The Stupid Party will let the Evil Party back into control some day, and they will mamdani the whole country if given the chance.
This is not difficult. Nuke it, pass the continuing resolution, then immediately re institute it.
The Dems stick together and the RINOs vote with them.
The best argument for nuking the filibuster is that we are in the midst of a war over our country’s future, and there will be only one winner. We need the tools of governance that the filibuster prevents us from using. Go big or stay home, because half measures aren’t going to cut it. The left is trying to outlast Trump so they can resume their destructive agenda. If the Trump era ends without voter I.D., additional anti-voter-fraud legislation as well as dissolving our lower courts and reestablishing them with Constitutional judges, the rest will all be undone, and the filibuster will end up being irrelevant anyway.
The federal government needs to be structurally transformed in a way that prevents the deep state from taking back control for years to come. That only comes if we eliminate the filibuster so we can pass the legislation necessary to make it happen. In our efforts to preserve the rules of a more bi-partisan era succeed, we will also preserve the structural deficiencies that have allowed the left to seize power. With those structural deficiencies still in place and Trump out of office we will have squandered our best chance to preserve our constitutional republic. Trump understands this and wants to ensure that when he leaves office, his reforms will remain.
If we nuke the filibuster, we make it easier for the Democrats and RINOs to continue reshaping our government and our country in a way we don’t like.
They’re already reshaping our government. Have been for decades. The status quo favors the Uniparty. Once Trump’s gone, it’ll be back to business as usual, and they’ll continue to chip away at our freedoms regardless of whether the filibuster remains in place or not.
The best way to ensure that Democrats don’t regain power is to govern really well so they remain in the minority for years to come. And that means doing things that can only be done by removing the filibuster. Maybe, at some less partisan time in our nation’s future (if there ends up being such a time) it can be brought back.
Budget resolutions and recomciliation cannot be filibustered, but appropriations bills can be. To end a government shutdown, Congress must pass and the President must sign either the full set of 12 appropriations bills for the fiscal year or a temporary measure like a continuing resolution (CR). This legislation funds government departments and agencies, which must cease non-essential operations during a lapse in funding.
Since the current filibuster rules are not in the Constitution they can be easily changed, and this makes it a game of musical chairs as to which side of our highly-polarized political environment decides to stop the music and take the remaining chair.
The Democrats and RINO judges are shamelessly weaponizing their positions to do anything and everything to stop the Trump agenda. They are traitors and sellouts. Many needed legislative changes will not happen if they can be filibustered. Not only do we need a budget that does not compromise with Dems on things like providing food and medical care to illegals, but ending the filibuster would allow the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility (SAVE) Act (H.R. 22 / S. 128) to proceed to a simple majority vote in the Senate. It passed in the House of Representatives in April but is currently pending in the Senate.
That’s all that’s required; a budget.
We pass a budget and done. We win. There is much less reason for Democrat theatrics going forward.
It’s the GOP fecklessness right now that is emboldening the Democrats filibuster agenda with chum in the water. The DNC sharks can smell weak GOP blood in the water so they’re all in a feeding frenzy. Because the truth is, if the Democrats obstruct again and again and again with each future bill obstructed it gets harder and harder to blame the republicans.
Also, some things can be packed into the budget anyways so what “other bills” did you want passed? Just put them into the budget anyways.
Now what do the Dems have to filibuster for the remainder of 2025? Nothing. Attach the budget riders. Riders = 2026 Trump wins too.
The Democrats want us to do their work for them in eliminating the filibuster. They don’t want their own fingerprints on it in the future. We should not give the Democrats what they want. The filibuster needs to stay.
“That’s all that’s required; a budget. We pass a budget and done.”
That’s not how it works.
As I said, Congress must pass and the President must sign either the full set of 12 appropriations bills for the fiscal year or a temporary measure like a continuing resolution (CR). This legislation funds government departments and agencies, which must cease non-essential operations during a lapse in funding.
The 12 annual appropriations bills fund specific areas of the federal government’s discretionary spending and move through Congress via a structured legislative process.
Each of the 12 bills corresponds to a specific area of government funding. These bills for a given fiscal year cover various departments and agencies. Here’s a list:
https://simpson.house.gov/appropriations/12appropriationssubcommittees.htm
Without ending the filibuster it will require an unnecessary compromise with Democrats over the budget, and many other issues, like election security and reform, will not get done.
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