Sorry, Democrats — No Civil War is Coming

American Thinker ^ | October 18, 2025 | John Kudla

[E. Pluribus Unum]

In 1776, American colonists, despairing that their rights as British citizens were being trampled upon by their overbearing king, George III, decided to secede from the British Empire.  Thomas Jefferson wrote down their grievances in the Declaration of Independence.  Just a few of them include the cutting off of trade, imposing taxes without consent, depriving the people of trial by jury, suspending colonial legislatures, and waging war on the colonists.  I think Jefferson’s best argument was, “He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.”  Yep, sounds as though they had reasons to rebel.

In 1861, following the election of Abraham Lincoln, wealthy landowners pushed eleven Southern states, where slavery was legal, to secede from the United States.  Much of the rhetoric claimed that the war was about states’ rights, but that was mostly a smokescreen.  Unlike the rebellion against King George, these people had no grievances — only fears that slavery would be abolished, ending the free labor on which their economic system depended.

Both of these political disputes got out of control and turned into armed conflicts.  Both were civil wars, although we refer to the first conflict as a revolution.  Both were wars over power; control; and, to some extent, money.  The first one succeeded, and the second one failed, but not before much destruction and bloodshed occurred in both.

In 2025, there are rumors that we may yet see another civil war.  A YouGov poll taken in June revealed that 40% of respondents believe that a civil war is likely or somewhat likely in the future.  Democrats were more likely to see a civil war happening than Republicans by 48% to 32%.

Some of this may be the result of rhetoric from Democratic sources.  In March of this year, Representative...

[E. Pluribus Unum]

John Podesta planned civil war if Biden lost in 2020.

Top Democrats contemplate civil war if Biden loses

The plan was postponed for four years when they managed to steal the 2020 election.

In the meantime, they made a predictive-programming movie about a civil war to prepare their minions for what to do when the time came.

In Podesta's plan and in the movie, Left-coast states form a "Western Alliance," secede from the Union and eventually assassinate the President.

Lo-and-behold, California, Oregon and Washington have formed an alliance to "cow" the President.

The Western States Can COW the President

California announces coalition of Governors forming new alliance to protect public health from political interference

And when Gavin Newsom bragged about forming the alliance on Steven Colbert's show, the minions cheered because they were in on the plan.

Gavin Newsom gets the full Colbert treatment

Newsom used the national platform to warn about what he called “authoritarian actions by an authoritarian government” and to reiterate his prediction that Trump does not want another election (besides “a Putin-type election”) while touting Democrats’ support for international climate agreements, vaccine access and opposition to mass deportations.

He highlighted California’s partnership with nearby states to counter what he’s called the politicization of the CDC and vaccine guidelines under HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

[reasonisfaith]

The title speaks the truth.

There are two basic categories of people who call for civil war: the elites are one category and regular people are another.

The elites cannot accomplish a civil war because they are incapable of sufficiently manipulating regular people to engage.

Those non elite among the population who call for civil war, including on FreeRepublic, have no clue what civil war means. They’re not truly calling for civil war. What they’re doing is nothing more than voicing angst in an online post.

[Maine Mariner]

As someone pointed out in FR some years ago. One side cannot decide who should use which bathroom and the other larger group owns lots of guns and know how to use them.

It reminded me just how stupid the left is when during the demonstration against the pipeline in North Dakota, some leaders suggested targeting LEOs spouses and children. How stupid can they be; spouses and teens of LEOs have been raised around guns, mostly likely own a couple themselves and most importantly know how to use them.

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Lo-and-behold, California, Oregon and Washington have formed an alliance to "cow" the President.

The Western States Can COW the President

Electing Katie Porter would be a big moove in that direction.

Seriously, though, people don't realize how disruptive and destructive civil war or a "national divorce" would be.

[reasonisfaith]

Knowing how to use guns has nothing to do with knowing what civil war is.

[Samurai_Jack]

maybe not a civil war.
But democrats are being driven to madness.

Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.

[Texas Eagle]

If there was one, demonicRATS would fight on behalf of the slave holders.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Seriously, though, people don't realize how disruptive and destructive civil war or a "national divorce" would be.

The only people who benefit from brother-against-brother are the puppet masters.

[reasonisfaith]

One of the first principles of waging war is identifying your enemy.

There is no poster on this website or any other who can do this.

[RandallFlagg]

If we were to have continued down the communist path before President Trump got elected, it likely wouldn’t have escalated to a, “Civil War,” situation, but a, “Henry Bowman,” situation.

[frank ballenger]

Ha.

Clever misspelling of move for Katie Porter.

[lurk]

You think effecting a war is pointing weapons and pulling triggers?

[sauropod]

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[ckilmer]

For a civil war you need honorable men on both sides willing to stand up for what they believe and willing to die if necessary. The the demiocrats don’t have such men. They drove all of them out of the party. The only killers they left are murderers and assassins. Thief don’t count for government purposes.

[Organic Panic]

It would be ‘funny’ to watch the democrats and assorted leftists try to start a civil war. Would they be able to scramble foot soldiers to protect their supply lines? They are generally living in big cities. A few militia men can block their water, electricity, fuel deliveries, food deliveries, and turn off their sewage systems. Everything the cities rely on is pretty much controlled by conservative leaning people.

[gundog]

Katie Porter, Tina Kotek, and Bob Ferguson...had to look that up....looks like Washington found a bigger wuss than Jay Inslee.

[GingisK]

There is no poster on this website or any other who can do this.

That seems pretty far-fetched to me.

[GingisK]

People on this forum don’t seem to remember the very large number of violent and successful revolutions by leftists against their nations. Many millions were killed each time. Do I really need to list them?

[Polanski]

Bernie spent over and hour today talking about how the poor (unlike him) need to do the Bolshevik movement and destroy the republic to install a communist leadership they he and AOC woold lead.

[Jim Noble]

In the color revolution scenario now unfolding, the military splits into two factions - call them blue and gray, it’s just a name - and California, Oregon, Illinois, New York, and Maryland filed substantial armies to defend their sovereignty.

Both armies have guns, and they both know how to use them.